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Tax Question

I'm sorting out my 2021 taxes and I have a question or two regarding eBay. 

 

If I buy an item at a yard sale for $1, with the specific intention of reselling it, my cost of goods for that item is $1, correct?

 

But what if I sell a personal item, like an old computer? I recently sold my 2011 Apple laptop for approx. $100, but it originally cost me $1200 about 10 years ago. What would my costs of goods for this item be? 

 

Or how about an unwanted gift or an item that I never paid any money for?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

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If you purchase item for $1 (that is your cost of goods).   If you don't know the cost of goods use the current value for your used (thrift store value).

 

 

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@lilbabyplain 

 

Yes, if your purchased something at a yard sale for $1, the cost basis of that item is $1.

 

If you sell a personal item that you paid $1200 for, the cost basis of that item is $1200.

 

If you sell an item that was a gift, or inherited, or something you didn't pay for, the cost basis is the fair market value of the item when you acquired it.

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The value of the computer is no longer $1200. That was the value new. The value now is what it is worth used.

 

 

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I believe that I understand. So, my cost of goods for computer, which originally cost me $1200, is the amount that I sold it for here on eBay? Because that's what it's "worth" used, correct? 

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Thank you, @lacemaker3 . I'm confused, though. What do you mean by "cost basis"? When calculating my cost of goods for my 10 year old, $1200 computer, would it be the amount that I sold it for, which was, in this case, approx. $100? Thanks again.

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@fab_finds4u 

For income tax purposes, that is not correct...The "Cost Basis" for his old computer is in fact $1200.00...

is gets complicated, but since it was a personal item and NOT amortized (depreciation) for tax purposes from it's original cost....if he resells it, the cost basis is the original purchase price (with supporting documentation of course)

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I would just use the sell price of the computer as the cost basis.  Yes, some might argue that since you bought it new at $1,200 you can use that as the cost basis.  But using $1,200 as a cost basis you have the potential of showing losses and that is a red flag.

 

Remember, dealing with the tax laws is partly an art form.  Best to avoid notice unless you are wealthy enough to hire a CPA, a minimum expense in the $400-$500 for the simplest of returns.  Like other mandarins, such as lawyers, they really don't work for lower middle class schmucks like myself.  They exist to protect the interests of the 1% and act as the foot soldiers in the class war.

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@lilbabyplain;

 

The cost basis is defined as "the amount [money] of your investment in property for tax purposes". Basically, it's what you paid for the item (if you paid for it) or the item's fair market value at the time you acquired it (if you didn't pay money or currency for it; as in you inherited it, or it was part of an exchange or barter).  This is defined in IRS Publication 551, Basis of Assets:

 

https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-publication-551

 

Your cost of goods sold is what it sounds like; it would include the cost basis, plus any other costs you might have paid for the items, such as a buyer's premium if you bought them at an auction, shipping cost, and the cost of repairs or improvements that you made to the item(s).

 

When you are selling your personal items, it depends if you are selling them as personal investments (i.e. capital assets) or as a business. Either approach is acceptable, as long as you are consistent and reasonable. Because you said that you have purchased items for resale, that means  you are operating as a business, so that's how I am answering you. You need to be consistent, and business like, and take steps and make decisions that would increase your profits in the long run.

 

Whether you have receipts or not, you can document the fair market value of your personal possessions, and it is strongly advisable to make a spreadsheet to keep track of your cost basis in the items that you decide to sell. It is quite reasonable to use your personal possessions as inventory to build capital for your business, because you have to have money to start up and get your business going.

 

You can use the purchase price or the fair market value of your items when you acquired them, as the cost basis, but this is likely to result in your business losing a lot of money on paper. This is acceptable (as long as you are consistent) but if your business loses too much money, and if you are audited, then the auditor may decide that you are not really running a business activity and are not entitled to deduct business expenses.

 

You can lose money for a few years, because the IRS understands that businesses are likely to lose money in the startup phase. But, you need to be taking actions that will improve your profit, and you can't keep losing money forever, because that's not what a real business would do.

 

One approach that is often used by startup sellers, when they are operating as sole proprietors, is to transfer "ownership" of the items from their personal possession to their business possession when the item is sold, and to use the fair market value of the items at the time they sell as the cost basis: in other words, the sale price. As sole proprietors, they still own the item whether it's a personal possession or a business possession, and they report the profits from the business sales as income on their personal tax return, so this is completely above board for reporting taxes.

 

This way, the personal items are sold at a loss (because of the expenses of eBay fees, shipping, packaging materials, and so on) but the loss is much lower than if the original purchase price was used as the cost basis (assuming the items were sold at a loss). This way, you can use the money you receive from selling personal items to fund your business, and purchase items for resale that you can use to make a profit. This way, you can show that you are making good business decisions to improve your profit and loss.  Make sure that you keep receipts and records to document the cost basis of things that you purchase for resale.

 

Whichever way you decide to compute the cost basis of your items, you need to be consistent, and you should work with a tax expert to make sure that your business model is correct and will be accepted if you are ever audited.

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Messages 8 & 9 may be the best replies I have seen on this 'gray' area

I have to remember the difference between "hobby" and "business".....

there is a difference in the way you itemize stuff....losses are completely acceptable for a business.....but losses are "limited" to a "0" (zero) on the personal returns

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Great response!!

 

I am clear about hobby vs business income, but not on capital gains vs business.

 

What if your inventory is entirely made up of personal property, year after year? . Is selling still a business if run in a business like manner?

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@mycheaperstuff,

 

That's a bigger question, but here is some information that I pulled together recently that pretty much covers ALL the possible situations that an eBay seller could be in.

 

Basically, there are three possible situations that eBay sellers may be in: selling personal possessions as investments, acting as a business, or acting as a not-for-profit (aka hobby). In all cases, if you are required to file a tax return, then you have to report all your income, whether it was reported on a 1099 form or not, and whether the income was in money/currency, or not, for example in barter or exchange then you have to report the fair market value of what you received in exchange.

 

  1. Selling items you purchased for your own use or collections, or inherited, when you are not operating a business activity.
    • If you selling your own personal possessions or investments, you can treat them as capital assets, and file Schedule D (Form 1040), Capital Gains and Losses.
    • You can deduct the cost-of-goods-sold from the gross amount you received for the items, to determine if they were a net capital loss or gain.
    • Ideally you would have receipts or records to document the cost basis of the items, for the cost-of-goods-sold:
      • However, if the items were inherited then you need to use the fair market value on the date they were inherited.
      • If you don't have receipts (as for items that were bartered or exchanged, or if receipts are not available) then you can use the fair market value when they were acquired.
      • The fair market value needs to be determined consistently, and according to accounting principles.
      • For more information, see IRS Publication 551, Basis of Assets.
    • Your net income from the sale of capital assets, is your gross income, minus the cost-of-goods-sold as shown on Schedule D. If this produces a net loss, then there is no tax liability (tax owing) on the sales.
    • If you have a net capital loss, then you may be able to report the net loss, up to certain limits, and depending on the type of items that were sold and how long you owned them. See the IRS instructions or consult a tax expert for details.

  2. Acting as a business: If you were selling things that you purchased to resell, and/or if you were selling the items intending to act as a business and make a profit (even if they were originally your personal possessions), then you may qualify to file as a business.
    • Here are the guidelines that the IRS uses to determine if an online selling activity qualifies to act as a business:
      https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/earning-side-income-is-it-a-hobby-or-a-business
    • You don't need to meet all of these points to qualify, and none of the points are more important than any others. For eBay sellers, perhaps the most important thing they need to do to qualify as a business, is to take actions and make decisions that will increase their chances of making a profit, and be able to demonstrate this if they are audited.
      • For example, look for good sources of inventory, and stop using sources that not profitable.
    • Businesses can file Schedule C (Form 1040), Profit or Loss from Business (Sole Proprietorship).
    • You do not need to have an LLC, or a business license, or be registered as a business to use a Schedule C. You just need to qualify according to the IRS guidelines above.
    • You can use Schedule C to report your gross income from the business, and to deduct business expense. These can include:
      • The cost basis of your items sold as described above for capital gains or losses.
      • Other normal and customary business expenses. This can include eBay fees, shipping and packaging costs, rent for office space or inventory storage, etc. See the IRS instructions for details.

  3. Not-for-profit activity:  If you are not filing a Schedule D : Capital gains or losses, and if you don't qualify to file as a business (according the the IRS guidelines above), then your activity was considered to be a not for profit by activity the IRS.
    • If you don't qualify to file as a business, then you can't use the Schedule C. This will be the case for many eBay sellers who consider themselves to be "hobby sellers". The IRS considers them to be "gig workers" as described above.
    • In this case, according to the 2021 Instructions for Schedule C:
    • You need to report your gross income from the not-for-profit activity on Schedule 1 line 8i as stated above.
      • You can calculate the gross income from the not-for-profit activity according to Publication 535, Business Expenses (section: Not for Profit Activities: Gross Income)
      • "You can determine gross income from any not-for-profit activity by subtracting the cost of goods sold from your gross receipts. However, if you determine gross income by subtracting cost of goods sold from gross receipts, you must do so consistently, and in a manner that follows generally accepted methods of accounting."
        See page 8: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p535.pdf
    • If you use this method of determining gross income to report on Schedule 1 (Form 1040), line 8i, and the gross income is substantially less than the amount that was reported on your 1099-K, then it is possible that this may increase your chances of being audited.
      • If you are audited, you should expect to be asked to show how you determined your gross income. You should be able to demonstrate how you calculated your cost of goods sold, and subtracted that from your gross receipts.
      • As long as you calculated the cost of goods sold reasonably and fairly, including the actual cost or fair market value of the goods of sold, and any other expenses, and accurately calculated your gross income, this should be acceptable to the auditor.
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@lilbabyplain wrote:

I'm sorting out my 2021 taxes and I have a question or two regarding eBay. 

 

If I buy an item at a yard sale for $1, with the specific intention of reselling it, my cost of goods for that item is $1, correct?

 

But what if I sell a personal item, like an old computer? I recently sold my 2011 Apple laptop for approx. $100, but it originally cost me $1200 about 10 years ago. What would my costs of goods for this item be? 

 

Or how about an unwanted gift or an item that I never paid any money for?

 

Thanks in advance!

 


You've already gotten answers, but yes to the $1 COGS on the yard sale item.

 

Not an accountant, but for the computer. Since you're in a way buying it from yourself (personal to business) to resell. I'd use whatever the current value of it is. However, it may be more correct to treat it as $0 since the item itself would have depreciated to $0 at this point (I think computers are 7 years). But it wasn't originally purchased for business use so personally I'd go with the former option.

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