Stolen library books
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‎06-23-2021 04:04 AM
Ebay is at risk of becoming a vehicle for the sale of stolen library books, if it is not already. Old books with library markings, often valuable ones, are frequently listed for sale on the Antiquarian Book site. Such books are typically marked as "Ex-Library" with pics included showing such markings. But in every case the markings should include a "Discard" stamp showing that the Library itself removed the book from its collection. Often
such "Discard" notices do not appear in the listing. This very likely means the book was stolen. Ebay should have a rule that no library book may be listed without a photo showing the Discard notice.
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‎06-23-2021 10:50 AM
So do thieves spend a lot of time in libraries or what?
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‎06-23-2021 10:54 AM
Me too. My local library has sales twice a year. Many books are donated and many are discards from the library and you cannot identify which is which in most cases.
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‎06-23-2021 10:56 AM
@faithsbks wrote:This very likely means the book was stolen.
All that means is they didn't stamp it.
I rarely buy books from libraries with that in them.
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‎06-23-2021 10:57 AM
Value is reduced but usually not destroyed. The books wouldn't sell as they do if it were.
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‎06-23-2021 11:05 AM
You're mistaken. Libraries have many rare books that are stamped, have sleeves, or otherwise marked.
It's not always easy to steal them but thieves find a way. And such books are not as worthless as you think, especially if they haven't been rebound in a library binding.
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‎06-23-2021 11:07 AM
Some of us are just that way. Not one car I've owned since the 1980s has seen the inside of the garage. Oh, it isn't just books, but the majority is. And these are the 'good' ones that are MINE. I was selling lesser books online to support my habit, starting amazon when they were still in the garage up north, then with Interloc and then going to ABE. And, the car still has to sleep outside.
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‎06-23-2021 11:11 AM
@faithsbks wrote:You're mistaken. Libraries have many rare books that are stamped, have sleeves, or otherwise marked.
It's not always easy to steal them but thieves find a way. And such books are not as worthless as you think, especially if they haven't been rebound in a library binding.
I have no reason to think that the thieves turn around and try to flog such books on eBay, though. They have other buyers, sometimes already lined up.
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‎06-23-2021 11:14 AM
Not true at all. While I don't deal in books. I have at times ended up with numerous pallets of ex library books over the years due to buying in bulk. I end up with the books because they were put in a lot with other items so someone would essentially have to haul them off. I have rarely seen the books stamped with discard. I just give them away myself.
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‎06-23-2021 11:29 AM
This day in age who would really even want to steal library books? Everyone has an encyclopedia in the palm of their hand with smart phones.
Maybe if the books are rare/expensive okay, but other than that, who is going to steal library books? I don't think many people at all honestly. And even so, how the heck could you go about proving it?
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‎06-23-2021 11:35 AM
@2013grot
Yeah, you're right. Ah, I am kinda under the understanding that if a book has a library inked stamp on it, that pretty much devalues it. And also it's kinda my understanding, book collectors like for the books to be in pristine condition, unless the book is really rare...
I do have some books that "supposedly" have a pretty good value to them, like the first edition of "Gone with the Wind;" "To kill a Mockingbird," just to name a couple of them. But I have many more, they're the only books that I keep in my office, 2 large bookcases... I doubt the wife and I will ever try to sell them...
Ah, you mentioned sporting type stuff, that reminded me of a past pack away in the shed; I had actually forgotten about it, so your response made me go out and look at them, (see picture below) about 15 or so years ago, another give away of stuff that came to our back porch, 4 large boxes of basketball and football cards. In the picture there's only 3 boxes pictured, but there's another in there somewhere... I have no knowledge about basketball and football cards... So they are bound in the shed... I don't really see them as having any true value, but I don't know... I figure the kids when that day arrives will have to deal with the shed, I kinda feel bad about the mess of stuff, but it'll give 'em headaches, for when they were teenagers, they sure gave me headaches: just kidding, I have the greatest kids on earth, and all 3 of them are very successful. I'm very proud of them.
Anyway, please feel free to give me a bit of knowledge concerning the boxes of cards... we're planning on having a yard sale towards the later parts of this coming month... If they have any value, I guess the wife and I could dig them out of the shed. They are of the late 80's and early 90's era... But I really just don't see them as being very sellable, and when we have yard sales, we don't care very much for packing things back up. Right now they're really out of sight and out of mind, in which is kinda good.
 
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‎06-23-2021 11:41 AM
@jonathankirkland wrote:... Maybe if the books are rare/expensive okay, but other than that, who is going to steal library books? I don't think many people at all honestly. And even so, how the heck could you go about proving it?
If OP sees books she is convinced are stolen, she can check with the library in question, I suppose, since she said the books clearly show stamps, pockets, etc. Otherwise, I guess she could check on WorldCat to see which libraries hold copies, and then begin checking with them to see if any are missing. And she could also check the ILAB database of stolen books, I suppose. It would be a lot of work.
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‎06-23-2021 11:47 AM
Ironically enough, I currently have about 1000 ex library books to give away that cam from different locales. I started looking through them and found ALL had been stamped to discard from one source and NONE from another source. I guess it just depends on which library is discarding them and how diligent the employees are.
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‎06-23-2021 12:04 PM
This thread is turning into it's own library.
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‎06-23-2021 12:18 PM
This is just a general reply, to comment that books actually can be very profitable.
Mass market editions (HB or SB) not so much, but these can make good bank if acquired cheaply enough:
- Multiple book lots by popular authors (Stephen King, Anne Rice, etc.)
- Older Sc-Fi paperbacks
- certain art books (Frazette, Roger Dean, etc.)
- Reference books of any kind, especially those that are very limited edition
- Geneology resource books
- Automotive repair manuals
- Pretty much anything history or military related (might need to be put in lots).
- Vintage "smut" (for lack of a better term). There are serious collectors out there. (I am referring to novels and books, not photo porn).
The key is doing the research. I once found a 1970s paperback that sold for around $100, it was in a shopping bag full of worthless dredge, but I looked it up and got lucky.
YMMV
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‎06-23-2021 12:23 PM
I want to discard Bezos the "Book guy"......sign the petition!!!
