Started noticing certain buyers having multiple non payments.

[sp_2591]

Is there a rational explanation for having so many non-payments?  or is someone doing it out of spite?  

[slippinjimmy]

Depends on what you call "rational"?

The deadbeats are all over the remaining Auction style listings because it's one of the few things on eBay you can always "purchase" and then not pay later.

Like your cards........

Buyers can sit down and go on a bidding spree, when they end up winning $50 worth of stuff they think "I really only want to spend $20 this week so I'll pay for some and not for others".

I'd have to add that my impression is the trading card Category has some pretty shady dealers who might not be beyond a few dirty tricks to chase away new sellers.

[katzrul15]

@sp_2591 

How many are you referring to?

Do you mean they are the same IDs over and over?  If yes, add those IDs to your BBL so they cannot purchase from you again and repeat the madness!

[7606dennis]

Precisely how do you know that the buyer has multiple non-payment strikes?  Are they being blocked from buying from you for having two or more strikes on their accounts within 12 months?

[albertabrightalberta]

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@7606dennis wrote:

Precisely how do you know that the buyer has multiple non-payment strikes?  Are they being blocked from buying from you for having two or more strikes on their accounts within 12 months?

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They've actually made the restriction even better. 

This is my setting: 

[sp_2591]

Looking at the feedback from other sellers 

[sp_2591]

I was just wondering the thought process behind it.  It is not really affecting me too much 

[coolections]

Do you have your blocks in place to stop the non payers from bidding on your auctions?

[sp_2591]

If it happens with the same person over and over, I will block them, but I understand sometimes people's eyes sometimes get bigger than our stomachs 

[slippinjimmy]

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@albertabrightalberta wrote:

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@7606dennis wrote:

Precisely how do you know that the buyer has multiple non-payment strikes?  Are they being blocked from buying from you for having two or more strikes on their accounts within 12 months?

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They've actually made the restriction even better. 

This is my setting: 

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What's better about that?

2 in 12 months is twice as restrictive as 2 in 6 months and the 1, 6, 12 month options are not new

[espresso_warehouse]

Avoid auctions. eBay hasn't been properly managing them for ages. Make your listings buy it now, and require immediate payment.

Even then you'll have to deal with scammers so be on the lookout.

[soh.maryl]

Just a word of caution:  If you are looking at FB that buyers have received from sellers, and you see negatives there, you are seeing sellers who are violating eBay's rules.  If those buyers were sharp, they should have contacted eBay.  eBay would have removed the wording, the green doughnut would have remained and that seller would have received a defect.  Have no idea how many of those it takes to get a seller booted from eBay, but my understanding is that it's not many.

Just a word of warning:  Do not make the mistake of ever leaving neg FB for a buyer, no matter what.

[luckythewinner]

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@sp_2591 wrote:

Is there a rational explanation for having so many non-payments?  or is someone doing it out of spite?  

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Yes, there is a "rational" explanation for multiple non-payments. 

On eBay, there is really nothing preventing a buyer from making multiple offers to multiple buyers, waiting for all of their responses, and then taking the best deal that arises from all those offers and ignoring the rest. 

With fixed price listings, I think there are buyers who make many offers to many sellers, and then take the best one that is accepted. If they offer $50 to a seller for an item and it is accepted, they will put this offer "in their pocket" and then go out and try to find a seller willing to take $45. Then $40. Then $35. When sellers stop accepting offers, they honor the best one and ignore the rest. 

IMHO a similar thing happens with auctions. A bidder might  may bid the same amount of a handful of auctions, wait for them all to end, and they only pay for the one that comes back with the lowest winning bid and ignore the rest. 

This is not be a good reason, it is not be a fair reason, and it certainly is not an ethical reason. But it is rational, at least from the buyer's perspective.   

[7606dennis]

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@sp_2591 wrote:

Looking at the feedback from other sellers 

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You do realize that sellers mentioning that in feedback comments are violating eBay's feedback policy, right?

[7606dennis]

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@luckythewinner wrote:

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@sp_2591 wrote:

Is there a rational explanation for having so many non-payments?  or is someone doing it out of spite?  

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Yes, there is a "rational" explanation for multiple non-payments. 

On eBay, there is really nothing preventing a buyer from making multiple offers to multiple buyers, waiting for all of their responses, and then taking the best deal that arises from all those offers and ignoring the rest. 

With fixed price listings, I think there are buyers who make many offers to many sellers, and then take the best one that is accepted. If they offer $50 to a seller for an item and it is accepted, they will put this offer "in their pocket" and then go out and try to find a seller willing to take $45. Then $40. Then $35. When sellers stop accepting offers, they honor the best one and ignore the rest. 

IMHO a similar thing happens with auctions. A bidder might  may bid the same amount of a handful of auctions, wait for them all to end, and they only pay for the one that comes back with the lowest winning bid and ignore the rest. 

This is not be a good reason, it is not be a fair reason, and it certainly is not an ethical reason. But it is rational, at least from the buyer's perspective.   

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Actually, there is never a good or fair reason for a buyer to violate the eBay User Agreement which they agreed to as a condition of their being allowed to use the site when they joined.  They may rationalize it in their own minds just like those woke folks that rationalize "Their Truth" over the simple TRUTH but they are merely trying to justify their own lack of integrity by failing to live up to their agreements.