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So...if a highway is just a highway, can it hand out speeding tickets?

Likewise, if a venue is just a venue (a conduit if you will, just like a highway), can it hand out penalties?

Whence the authority?

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@nawlinsron2 wrote:

Likewise, if a venue is just a venue (a conduit if you will, just like a highway), can it hand out penalties?

Whence the authority?


Smiley Very Happy

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@phono_0490xxxxxx wrote:

yes.

https://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html


Absolutely.  

 

By the authority vested in me, by me...

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Re: So...if a highway is just a highway, can it hand out speeding tickets?

Interestingly enough, eBay has stretched the definition of "venue" to new limits over the years.

"It is an intelligent man that is aware of his own ignorance."
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@phono_0490xxxxxx wrote:

yes.

https://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html


User agreements crumble in court.

 

Of course, you'd have to have a legal team as powerful as ebay and that would be extraordinarily costly.

 

My favorite is the indemnity clause:

 

16. Indemnity

You will indemnify and hold us (including our affiliates and subsidiaries, as well as our and their respective officers, directors, employees, agents) harmless from any claim or demand, including reasonable legal fees, made by any third party due to or arising out of your breach of this User Agreement, your improper use of eBay's Services or your breach of any law or the rights of a third party.

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Re: So...if a highway is just a highway, can it hand out speeding tickets?

The highway belongs to the government. The government sets the rules. The Highway Patrol enforces the rules. The Highway Patrol is a part of the government.

 

The venue belongs to Ebay. Ebay sets the rules. Bots and other various employees enforce the rules. The bots and employees are a part of Ebay.

 

It's Ebay's dog and pony show. If they want to make ridiculous rules that don't make sense, they can.  If they want to harm the hand that feeds them, they can.  Doesn't make it right, doesn't make it smart.

 

If you don't want to follow the speed limit, get off the highway...or speed and don't cry when you get a ticket.

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.


We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did. - Thomas Sowell
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as long as you are living in my house you will abide by my rules unamused

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Re: So...if a highway is just a highway, can it hand out speeding tickets?

It gets down to semantics. A "highway" is cement, sand, and water. It's inanimate.
It just lays there.
No matter what shape a "venue" takes, it's still inanimate of itself. It can't think or move.
...or pass out fines.
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Re: So...if a highway is just a highway, can it hand out speeding tickets?

Drive fast get tickets.  Best regards

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Re: So...if a highway is just a highway, can it hand out speeding tickets?

Likewise, if a venue is just a venue (a conduit if you will,

 

 

eBay finally quit calling themselves a "venue"...it worked for a while when it suited them, but in light of messing with everyone's business here, dictating rules, and snagging the money from the payment processor at will,  they changed their name to "managed marketplace".  

 

New upcming spin:  intermediate (your money) 

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Re: So...if a highway is just a highway, can it hand out speeding tickets?

Isn't it sort of like in the olden days of the West when the sheriff was the 'law'?

Not saying 'NO' doesn't mean 'YES'.

The foolishness of one's actions or words is determined by the number of witnesses.

Perhaps if Brains were described as an APP, many people would use them more often.

Respect, like money, is only of 'worth' when it is earned - with all due respect, it can not be ordained, legislated or coerced. Anonymous
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The highway belongs to the government. The government sets the rules. The Highway Patrol enforces the rules. The Highway Patrol is a part of the government.

    

 

Yes, and good little citzens we should not question when the "government" no longer allows blue and red cars to use their pavement?  

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@lewisburggold wrote:

Drive fast get tickets.  Best regards


Don't they have to catch you first?  Smiley Wink

Not saying 'NO' doesn't mean 'YES'.

The foolishness of one's actions or words is determined by the number of witnesses.

Perhaps if Brains were described as an APP, many people would use them more often.

Respect, like money, is only of 'worth' when it is earned - with all due respect, it can not be ordained, legislated or coerced. Anonymous
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Re: So...if a highway is just a highway, can it hand out speeding tickets?

Generally speaking highways don't hand out speeding tickets.  Agencies patrolling those highways seem to find reward in handing out the tickets. 

 

When I lived in the mountains of Colorado a few years back, driving to Denver afforded the privilege of pass through five jurisdictions, ergo the potential for five speeding tickets

 

eBay as venue per se, doesn't hand out tickets but they sure have lots of eager patrol cars.

 

It's not the patrol cars that scare me so much as the lack of judicial balance that is so sorrowfully missing in their court system manned by calivier hanging judges of capricious repute we begrudgingly have come to refer to as customer service.

 

"Fly the Big Ones"
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