mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@toybrats wrote:
Most of the folks that used GTC in the pass are sellers with multiples of the same item. I am blaming most of the slow sales to GTC too . Remember, why should a buyer bid now when they can bid in August or in Sept. I say if you have GTC, end them before the 30th day and relist them. Bring your items back to the top for a while.
That isn't accurate. Lots of sellers over the years have used GTC for single quantity items.
I am NOT trying to dismiss the importance of the change that happened in March. It has had a huge and often times impossible impact on some sellers. I respect that. I don't necessarily agree with Ebay's approach to this.
But that isn't my point.
I think the anger that some feel over this change is not allowing them to see that there are other contributing things potentially in play here. And the clear way to see this to be a true statement is that it is NOT only sellers affected by the recent GTC change that are having the same issues.
@pauls-parts wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@toybrats wrote:
Most of the folks that used GTC in the pass are sellers with multiples of the same item. I am blaming most of the slow sales to GTC too . Remember, why should a buyer bid now when they can bid in August or in Sept. I say if you have GTC, end them before the 30th day and relist them. Bring your items back to the top for a while.That isn't accurate. Lots of sellers over the years have used GTC for single quantity items.
I am NOT trying to dismiss the importance of the change that happened in March. It has had a huge and often times impossible impact on some sellers. I respect that. I don't necessarily agree with Ebay's approach to this.
But that isn't my point.
I think the anger that some feel over this change is not allowing them to see that there are other contributing things potentially in play here. And the clear way to see this to be a true statement is that it is NOT only sellers affected by the recent GTC change that are having the same issues.
GTC should not and has not effected a lot of sellers that have been using it for years. That has been established.
Who it has effected are the sellers that used the short duration listings 3=5=7=10 day listings. The effect did occur as soon as all the 10 day listings came to their end. It did effect me as soon as it came into effect. Not started but when the effect of losing the shorter duration listings. For me it was about 20 days after it was started.
I also know that as I myself and many sellers have done. Stopped buying on a venue that has so little regard for its sellers. Especially after the hooey that being spewed at the spring stock holders meeting.
I think that GTC has a snowball effect on down ward sales.
Well yes and no.
A potential buyer has no way of knowing if a seller is new to GTC because of the March change or is an established seller that has used GTC for years. Certainly they can look at their FB page and will know if the seller is a new or newer seller, but beyond that, there is nothing that will flag them to the seller being new to GTC or established for years with GTC.
FYI, I've been using GTC for years and my sales are down too. Like many other sellers that have used GTC for years. My ONLY point is that this is a more complicated issue and is NOT the sole result of the March GTC change.
Yes, the loss of sellers also buying would have some effect on the issue at hand. But since we have 6.7 Million + US active sellers, 25 million + worldwide active sellers and 170 million + active buyers, there should be plenty of buyer's to pick up slack.
Sellers that want to do such short durations as you described still can. They can set up auctions with BIN on the listing and if necessary, use reserved pricing to make sure they don't sell the item for less than they need to. You can increase pricing by the few cents it costs extra in the fees if any.
I think the sellers that used 30 day BINs were far more affected by the GTC change.
When buyer's view a listing that is GTC, it appears to them just like any other 30 day listing would have in the past. The buyer, unless they understand the GTC listing rule, can't tell from looking at a listing that it renew after 30 days if not sold out.
Where did you get the 20% number from? I'd like to read those stats. And 20% of 6.7 million would be 1.34 million not 5 million. The GTC change was on the US site. Other sites may or may not follow, IDK. I have enough issues trying to keep up with the changes that keep coming hard and fast on this site.
I would think that those sellers that can't do the 30 day BINS would disagree with you. It was all over the thread. There are lots of sellers that like to rotate their stock. While this may not have been your preferred way to list doesn't make it any less a difficulty for those that use to use it and now can't.
@tunicaslot wrote:Tagging - my friend sent me examples of what mobile buyers are seeing - I related in another thread that they no longer see a page of matches to their search like we see on a PC - but an individual listing takes up the full screen. Image 1 is the old view - Image 2 is what they see now - so instead of swiping down quickly thru the first 25-50 results - they have to swipe thru each individually.
That's interesting I'll need to do a little research about that! Thank you for posting it.
