01-30-2023 09:55 PM
A few years back I was in a spot and needed some money so I had turned to eBay. At the time, everything worked as should and the buyers/sellers were direct, communicative, and actual people - actually, all I dealt with were really kind. Recently I found myself in a similar spot and have had to relist items multiple times due to non-payment from scammers that joined days ago and hashing out questions post winning a bid that should have been asked during the process. In fact, the buyer who won the original bid was allowed to rebid on the item when I relisted and nearly won had I not intervened.
It's just so draining that it's not even worth it. I honestly feel safer at this point using Craigslist and haggling on the street. At least that way I can protect my money with a physical presence. This company just seems to allow scammers to waste your time while eBay reaches into your wallet. So now your (X) dollars you could receive from the item proper has now been reduced to (x) - time - ebay fees - headache.
Based on the conversations I have had with customer service, which is a stretch to call it service, they are untrained and obviously told to be nondescript in explanations to avoid fault - it's kind of obvious. People I have spoken with were nice but lacked any tools to actually remedy anything at all. I wonder if they created this forum for us to air our grievances, feel a bit better, and then go back to the grind. Like one big suggestion box for actual complaints that users have that cost them $$$ - both buyer and seller.
And while I can understand that there are things that we as buyers and sellers can do to protect us... isn't the entire point of a tool like this to make it more efficient and safe? For instance, selling an xbox in a parking lot is a lot more dangerous (or I had thought) than a platform to allow you to do everything digitally and safely through shipping services.
I know this is one long diatribe but anyone else feeling anything similar?
01-30-2023 10:54 PM
After further consideration and reading through the community posts I feel like this just isn't the platform for me. Unfortunately, I still have some items to finalize but am out after that. It very well could just be too many bad experiences at one time, maybe its because my shop doesn't sell much and am targeted but in any event not something that sits well with me.
01-30-2023 11:02 PM
It appears you either aren't familiar with or have chosen not to utilize some of the tools eBay provides for sellers.
There are a number of ways a seller can reduce or avoid nonpaying customers. Perhaps you've already relied on a couple of them, but here's a list of some approaches you can utilize:
Utilizing these tools will help eliminate unpaid transactions.
01-30-2023 11:28 PM
Welcome to the new "version" of Ebay.
"pburn" posted up some excellent suggestions and I also suggest reading the community boards daily.
Sellers are usually at the forefront of recognizing scams, and warn the rest of us long before Ebay even knows it's happening.
One thing I can add to pburns suggestions is NEVER...and I mean NEVER, ship to any other address besides the one registered on EBAY!
Good luck in your future selling....
01-30-2023 11:31 PM
Thanks for the information and will surely help other sellers reading! Your approach makes total sense after learning more about ebay.. Personally, I have a hard time "working around" the auction process as that's a feature of the marketplace. Probably overly sensitive as money is involved but I thought auctioning was one of the larger benefits of the platform, however, after your comment and further reading I find that everyone is basically saying to avoid auctioning and list a fixed price (and to follow subsequent instructions). I'll probably just sell things locally from now on - again just having worked in e-commerce for 14+ years, something about this doesn't sit well. Again, may just be me. I do know, however, they need some help in customer service. Thanks again!
01-31-2023 03:33 AM
Sorry to hear that you are leaving. There are quite a few sellers and/or buyers who will find that the platform doesn't fit their needs. As spelled out for you by @pburn, there are guidelines and rules that need to be followed and they aren't really complicated. Most of them are there to protect sellers.
01-31-2023 04:10 AM - edited 01-31-2023 04:11 AM
@cklaroche1 wrote:... Personally, I have a hard time "working around" the auction process as that's a feature of the marketplace. Probably overly sensitive as money is involved but I thought auctioning was one of the larger benefits of the platform, however, after your comment and further reading I find that everyone is basically saying to avoid auctioning and list a fixed price (and to follow subsequent instructions). ...
Auctioning is not a major element on eBay any more. I don't have the exact numbers available, but I think that around 80% of the transactions on eBay are now fixed price, perhaps more.
Most buyers don't want to wait, they want to buy now and get it tomorrow or within a few days. Or at least, to get a tracking number and know that their package is on its way to them. With immediate-payment-required, they can't buy (or end the listing) without paying, so that cuts down on non-payment scams.
Auctions are only appropriate now for high-demand items that are sure to attract multiple bidders that drive the price up. Unfortunately, if bidders get caught up in auction-fever, they are much more likely to bid too much and then decide not to pay. That's why its only recommended for high-demand items.
eBay has been experimenting with requiring pre-authorized payments when a buyer makes an offer, but a lot of buyers won't do it so now sellers who use that have been complaining about getting fewer offers. There have been reports of buyers' payments being kept for days after the seller rejected the offer, or being double-charged and having to wait days or to complain in order to get one of the charges released/refunded. So this isn't really going very well.
01-31-2023 04:26 AM
pburn pretty much covered the gamut for your situation. About the only other thing I would add is looking at the items you sold, but were not paid for, be aware that electronics are one of the most scammed items out there. In addition with larger items like the Apple IMAC the shipping cost is usually excessive and you have to worry about damage in transit. You are in a burb of Grand Rapids and this may be something better sold locally where you don't have to worry about shipping the item.
01-31-2023 07:28 AM - edited 01-31-2023 07:29 AM
Auctions aren't nearly so popular as they were when eBay was established some 25 years ago, give or take. The entire landscape of online retailing has changed immensely, as have the online buying habits of customers. People aren't so interested in waiting days to find out whether they've won the bidding and aren't so willing to sit by their devices to either enter bids at the last moment or circle back around at a specific day and time to see if they've won at the end of an auction--and be disappointed if they haven't.
I don't think there are too many people who would argue about the abysmal state of eBay's customer service--at least the phone and live chat reps. The social media reps (Facebook and Twitter) seem to have a much better reputation for reliability.
Good luck to you wherever you land!
01-31-2023 08:30 AM
Thanks everyone for your comments and suggestions as there is a lot of good information here! Hopefully this will help future users as well. Again, appreciate the feedback!
01-31-2023 11:06 AM
I haven't been on here in years and need to some a few items. I have had the same response - people scamming. I will take the suggestions that were given but I am very disappointed as I used to feel very safe and secure selling on this platform.