Scammed on both ends

[bparedes098]

Been an ordeal for the last 1/2 of April and I was ecstatic to have sold my sigma lense but I’m positive even the buyer was part of the scam. 

 I have a bunch of photos but he gave me his personal information (Twitter, email and phone) and for some reason that message wasn’t flagged and he even asked me for my “full credentials” which I didn’t give any. 

there was a 2nd account that asked me to send it to a different address because “ was moving due to work issues” so I sent it to that address. Buyer claims that he did not receive the item then requests a refund so I lose out on my money and I have to pay the sellers fee which is stupid. 

Then made a claim through eBay saying how these people we’re scammers and they just took my lense away and I lost money now and then my claim got denied and I running low on options on what to do.

i have a tracking number and saying it was delivered but no signature. Called UPS and filled out an IC3 form (supposed to be tied with the FBI or something) I even sent screen shots to eBay spoof. 

if there’s ANY help you can give I’d greatly appreciate it 

[bparedes098]

 

[bparedes098]

The case I was referring to is the claim the buyer requests for a refund.  

[albertabrightalberta]

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@bparedes098 wrote:

 

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^^^^ This person sending the message is NOT your buyer. Buyer's ID is in the previous screenshots and starts with an "H" but the scammer starts with a "G." 

You were fooled by the second message. (Your original post also shows the ID "C" of a third person. I suspect that's a scammer too.)

The original buyer "H" located in Australia has been a member since April 2018 and is rightly ticked because he didn't get what I paid for. (He's not a newbie and has 25 feedbacks.)

[femmefan1946]

but he gave me his personal information (Twitter, email and phone)

SCAM!

[bparedes098]

Buyer “h” didn’t buy the item from me though. Buyer “c”. But you are correct about buyer “g” that one was a scammer that I discovered after the fact. 

[bparedes098]

Exactly. I thought it was odd because even sites like Mercari block Instagram handles in 5 minutes or less. 

[albertabrightalberta]

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@femmefan1946 wrote:

but he gave me his personal information (Twitter, email and phone)

SCAM!

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That personal information did come NOT from the actual buyer! 

The actual buyer has an ID that starts with "H"

Scammer #1 (from OP) starts with a "C"

Scammer #2 (from post 16) starts with a "G"

The actual buyer DID pay for the item through ebay as indicated by the screenshot shown in post 13 as well as the message from the actual buyer as indicated by the screenshot shown in post 15. 

There are 3 different IDs, 2 of whom are scammers. 

The OP thinks they're the same person sending messages with different IDs. 

[albertabrightalberta]

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@bparedes098 wrote:

Buyer “h” didn’t buy the item from me though. Buyer “c”. But you are correct about buyer “g” that one was a scammer that I discovered after the fact. 

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Your orders will show which ID was the buyer and that's the person who paid for the item and to whom you should have sent it. That is the person who paid for the item and the one who won the case against you after you didn't ship to him.

You followed the instructions of a scammer and shipped to a different address and that's on you.

[dbfolks166mt]

     You have four things working against you. 

1. You are fairly new to selling. 

2. You listed a high dollar item.

3. You are a prime target for scammers. 

4. EBay offers virtually no seller protection. 

     Prior to actually selling you should have read through some of the scam's that typically ran against sellers, and this is a common one, and become familiar with those. In addition you could have come to this forum prior to sending the item when and if you felt that something seemed off and most responders would have told you never to change the address, if the buyer had already paid simply let the buyer know you will have to cancel the order since you cannot change the address but they are free to repurchase the item after they have updated the shipping information in their account. Then cancel the order citing a problem with the buyers address. 

     Expensive lesson to learn but always remember the #1 rule as a seller on eBay. NEVER list anything you are not prepared to take the financial loss on. About all you can do at this point is to file a police report with the police in the location where the person you shipped it to lives and with the FBI cyber crimes division. It may not produce a lot of results unless law enforcement notices a pattern with the address and individual it was shipped to. 

[inhawaii]

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@dbfolks166mt wrote:

     You have four things working against you. 

1. You are fairly new to selling. 

2. You listed a high dollar item.

3. You are a prime target for scammers. 

4. EBay offers virtually no seller protection. 

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There is one more thing working against the op.   😉

[ms.rodriguez*]

There is really nothing that you can do.  You were scammed. The person that paid and did not get their item deserves a refund. Pictures are useless.   If you have the address that you shipped it to, you and a few buddies and can drive over there and confront the scammer but that can lead to awful confrontations and can get you and your friends arrested. You made an error and it cost you. LEARN by this error. NEVER ship anything to another location even if the real buyer emails you.  You cancel and tell that buyer to re-buy the item and make sure that the correct ship to address is present.  But of course do this ONLY if you know that the email is from the real buyer.

The ONLY thing that you can do is save the page that shows Ebay refunded the buyer and save that page .  That is a total loss deduction when you do your taxes for next year.    

Ignore any requests to contact you off ebay.  Immediately block the buyer.  Goodluck on your future sales.

[kensgiftshop]

Sorry, you fell for an old scam and there's nothing you can do.

The buyer probably had nothing to do with it.

The member that sent you the message to change the address, they watch for certain items to sell, then send seller a message claiming to be the buyer to see if they can get the seller to ship to a different address.

Most of the time, the address is to a freight forwarder and your item is headed to a different country.