02-14-2017 06:53 PM
Sellers- HELP! Recently, I have had a few issues with refunds going to Buyers that don't follow my return standards stated in auctions. (Buyers pay return shipping and items must be returned in the same condition as purchased.) I refunded a buyer the amount less shipping and Ebay said she should have received a full refund?!?! An item broken in shipping is being refunded becasue the postal insurance didn't pay all of it. It seems like there is now VERY LITTLE, ALMOST NO support for sellers. I'm just wondering if anyone else is experiencing pressure to refund items. If a Buyer escalated a claim now, it goes against your seller status. After doing the math, I realized that if 3 people out of 1000 are unsatisfied, then reaching Top Seller status is unattainable. I've been an Ebayer for over 10 years, and have consistent positive feedback. Is anyone else out there grappling to undersand all of the new changes and how they affect us as sellers?!?! Please don't use this as a "rant" board, jsut help me get a handle on these changes and the best way to naviagate them. thanks!
02-15-2017 07:08 AM
@bbingo wrote:Sellers- HELP! Recently, I have had a few issues with refunds going to Buyers that don't follow my return standards stated in auctions. (Buyers pay return shipping and items must be returned in the same condition as purchased.) I refunded a buyer the amount less shipping and Ebay said she should have received a full refund?!?!
Your problem is that part of your return policy is not enforceable:
"Refund does not include shipping cost - only item cost. There is not a restocking fee. If it is an auction with FREE SHIPPING, a deduction of $4.50 from the item cost will be incurred to cover the actual cost of shipping the item."
Your return policy states that there is no restocking fee. That means you owe the buyer a full refund of the purchase price. You can't deduct the shipping cost from a refund for an item that offered free shipping. eBay was correct to refund the full amount.
02-15-2017 10:09 AM
The insurance was purchased on Paypal when I purchased the shipping label.
That is not a problem in itself, BUT the insurance claim needed an image of your paypal postage transaction. Since you didn't supply that to the buyer, USPS only applied the default $50 insurance.
02-15-2017 04:24 PM
@officiallorigashley wrote:The BEST way to stop the **scamming** is to use your smart phone and take video and pictures of the products you are selling just before you ship it, proving the condition of the item(s). Take pictures and/or video of the packing to show it is packed well and not going to break or get scratched in shipment. Further, If the product is new and even if it is a clearly stated used item, SEAL it in plastic. Plastic sealing machines can be purchased at walmarts, office supply stores and eBay. Get invisible ink and stamp the inside of the plastic before you seal it. Clearly state your refund and return policy too. See my products (click on the Lori G Ashley airbrush makeup ("see details") clearly written for my return policy to get a clear idea what your return policy should be. Restocking fee should be an automatic 20% if they send it back, no matter what! And you can set it to force the buyer has to pay for the return shipping too in your settings! Buyers remorse is NOT a return reason too! So, if the customer says, "I just don't like it". that is buyers remorse and not grounds for a return! Eventually, the scammers will stop and you will have a 99.9%. If eBay doesn't get a hold of the scam buyers issue, soon there will be few eBay sellers! Many have left and are still leaving due to this issue. Until there is an alternative to eBay with high buyer traffic and less costly seller fees, eBay has the monopoly.
With all due respect to you? This is worthless advice. eBay will not consider videos, pictures, smoke signals, or whatever else voodoo magic sellers think will protect them.
02-16-2017 05:51 AM
If a customer buys an tem that clearly states the defects before purchasing, and you have documentation to prove it, or new electronic item that have serial numbers to ensure if Item is returned with numbers , and the scamming customer returns the item with a different serial number..... You get my point. Also, REPORT every single customer that makes a claim or leaves bad feedback on you that you know is untrue! A history of a customer leaving bad feedbak for you will also help other sellers when they report the lying/scamming customer and get them removed! It will help get these people off eBay from continuing to do it trying to scam other sellers as well!
02-16-2017 05:53 AM
WRONG! Thirty days is NOT automatic refund! Here is how my refund policy is CLEARLY WRITTEN!
Return Policy International orders can't be refunded. Orders older than 7 days are not eligible for refund or 30 days exchanged and must be returned or exchanged in unopened, unused and original manufacturer packaging. Again for refunds or exchanges, product(s) must be returned in UNOPENED, UNUSED, ORIGINAL PACKAGING. Free Items are not eligible for exchange or refund. It is at the SOLE discretion of Lori G Ashley® to make any exceptions.If an exception is made, the refund policy will follow the guideline listed below. Please contact us at admin@lorigashley.org or by phone at 803-592-0123 to initiate a return. Failure to notify Customer Service of returns in advance can result in processing delays. Any items sent in for a return will be inspected by our Quality Control Department. Lori G Ashley® will not refund original shipping charges unless the return is a result of an error on our part. Further, customer pays for all return shipping costs. Please note, all items being returned must be unopened,unused, and in original manufacturer packaging. Lori G Ashley® can not accept returns or exchange for any item that has been opened/used. A refund or exchange will not be issued for any return that has been used. If you return a used item, it will be shipped back to you without refund or exchange. Please pack and seal your return securely and include a note explaining why you are returning the item(s) and whether you'd prefer a refund or an exchange. Packages must be returned pre-paid unless otherwise specified. Lori G Ashley® will not accept C.O.D. deliveries. Purchase and use of any items are the sole responsibility of the buyer. Before using any cosmetics for the first time, be sure to consult a physician or dermatologist to learn of any allergies you may have to specific ingredients. Lori G Ashley® is not responsible for any allergic reactions as a result of use of the products purchased and cannot provide a refund in such cases. RESTOCKING FEE: There is a 20% Restocking fee of the Order selling price. Exchanges If you are exchanging an item(s), please contact Customer Service for assistance and to initiate the exchange process. Any price differences will be charged or refunded to your card or PayPal account accordingly. All exchanges are subject to a $7.00 reshipping fee, unless the exchange is a result of an error on our part. By returning items for exchange, it is assumed that you have read and understand our reshipping fee policy. If you receive a defective or broken item, Lori G Ashley® must be notified within 7 days of receipt in order to provide a refund or an exchange. Orders must be unopened, unused and original manufacturer packaging for refunds. Packages must be returned pre-paid unless otherwise specified. Lori G Ashley® will not accept C.O.D. Deliveries. Lori G Ashley® inspects all returns and reserves the right to refuse credits on damaged, misused or non-resalable items. If an item is received in error and is returned to us in used condition, you will be charged for the used item(s). Example: If you ordered a kit, you will be charged the 20% Restocking fee in addition to the full sale price of each bottle opened/used.Example: Kit sale price is $50.00 and 3 bottles are used/opened, you will be charged $10.00 restocking fee and $19.50 if the individual bottles sell at $6.50 each. Your example refund would be $20.50. This is only an example. Depends on the current sale price of the individual bottles opened and website purchased from. Please send all returns to: Lori G Ashley® 105 Dogwood Row Summerville, SC 29483 Refunds If our Customer Service department concludes that an order must be refunded please allow 3-5 business days for the funds to be returned to your bank account. All refunds are issued immediately and the time for the funds to be returned may vary depending on your bank's policy. If after 5 (five) business days you do not see the refunded posted to your account, please call Customer Service with your order number. We will investigate the delay and ensure that everything is functioning properly. Payment Lori G Ashley® accepts payment via Visa, Mastercard, and PayPal. Once your order is placed, the funds are placed on hold by your bank and will appear as a pending charge. Once your order has shipped, the payment will be processed and will no longer appear as a pending charge on your account. In order for your order to be approved, your billing address must be entered exactly as it appears on your bank statements. If you are shipping to an address other than your billing address, please be sure to enter both addresses during checkout. Contact your banking institution if you are unsure of your billing address. Fraud Protection All orders are subject to review by Lori G Ashley® Fraud Department. Lori G Ashley® reserves the right to refuse any order due to suspected fraud. On occasion, Customer Service may contact you by phone or email for order verification purposes.
@d-k_treasures wrote:
@officiallorigashley wrote:The BEST way to stop the **scamming** is to use your smart phone and take video and pictures of the products you are selling just before you ship it, proving the condition of the item(s). Take pictures and/or video of the packing to show it is packed well and not going to break or get scratched in shipment. Further, If the product is new and even if it is a clearly stated used item, SEAL it in plastic. Plastic sealing machines can be purchased at walmarts, office supply stores and eBay. Get invisible ink and stamp the inside of the plastic before you seal it. Clearly state your refund and return policy too. See my products (click on the Lori G Ashley airbrush makeup ("see details") clearly written for my return policy to get a clear idea what your return policy should be. Restocking fee should be an automatic 20% if they send it back, no matter what! And you can set it to force the buyer has to pay for the return shipping too in your settings! Buyers remorse is NOT a return reason too! So, if the customer says, "I just don't like it". that is buyers remorse and not grounds for a return! Eventually, the scammers will stop and you will have a 99.9%. If eBay doesn't get a hold of the scam buyers issue, soon there will be few eBay sellers! Many have left and are still leaving due to this issue. Until there is an alternative to eBay with high buyer traffic and less costly seller fees, eBay has the monopoly.
Where to start ...
As stated before, videos, photos are useless, as are marks(and why would you put one on the inside of plastic if you seal it?).
You have a 30 day return policy - which means you take returns for any reason - including buyers remorse. The only way you can force the buyer psys return shipping and your restocking fee IS for buyers remorse.
On a SNAD, you WILL pay for return shipping and also give a FULL refund, including shipping. You will NOT get to charge a 20% restocking fee.
02-16-2017 06:01 AM
@d-k_treasures wrote:
@officiallorigashley wrote:The BEST way to stop the **scamming** is to use your smart phone and take video and pictures of the products you are selling just before you ship it, proving the condition of the item(s). Take pictures and/or video of the packing to show it is packed well and not going to break or get scratched in shipment. Further, If the product is new and even if it is a clearly stated used item, SEAL it in plastic. Plastic sealing machines can be purchased at walmarts, office supply stores and eBay. Get invisible ink and stamp the inside of the plastic before you seal it. Clearly state your refund and return policy too. See my products (click on the Lori G Ashley airbrush makeup ("see details") clearly written for my return policy to get a clear idea what your return policy should be. Restocking fee should be an automatic 20% if they send it back, no matter what! And you can set it to force the buyer has to pay for the return shipping too in your settings! Buyers remorse is NOT a return reason too! So, if the customer says, "I just don't like it". that is buyers remorse and not grounds for a return! Eventually, the scammers will stop and you will have a 99.9%. If eBay doesn't get a hold of the scam buyers issue, soon there will be few eBay sellers! Many have left and are still leaving due to this issue. Until there is an alternative to eBay with high buyer traffic and less costly seller fees, eBay has the monopoly.
Where to start ...
As stated before, videos, photos are useless, as are marks(and why would you put one on the inside of plastic if you seal it?).
Inside my newly sealed in plastic products is an invisible to the eye markings. If any customer opens the plastic, usues the makeup for say a wedding, tries to fill the bottles back up with water and tries to re-seal the product with plastic we didn't use and send it back, we will know it was used and no refund will be given! You would be surprised what competitors and scammers will do to try to use a product for what ever and then try to get their money back after they have used it for what ever purpose! So there is a purpose for the sealed plastic! Video and pictures show eBay and PayPal the true condition of the product when shipped and how the product was shipped by the seller and the same for the customer, when there is an issue! No, the CUSTOMER doesn't automatically win! Proactive sellers that truely are honest will be treated fairly in disputes when they have the evidence to back them up! After 3 years selling my brand on ebay, I know.
02-16-2017 06:09 AM
Also, Sellers should look at the Feedback the Customer has left for other sellers! It will give you a good idea of the customer complaining history!
Further, NEVER leave feedback for any customer until after they have left feedback for you!
Reply to any negative feedback a customer leaves with your side too!
There are many was of still having your voice heard when eBay doesn't allow you to leave a bad buyer negative feedback!
Heck, I have been known to leave my reply to a bad feedback and post SELLERS BEWARE of this customer bad feedback left history on the buyers page under the positive, just to warn other sellers! Sellers need to click on the feedback left button for every new customer before filling an order with them!
Sellers have the option to refund without fulfilling the order too!
When sellers start taking every measure to control of the customers scamming that eBay protects, eBay will see sellers will take control by using their measures too!
02-16-2017 06:35 AM
@officiallorigashley wrote:Heck, I have been known to leave my reply to a bad feedback and post SELLERS BEWARE of this customer bad feedback left history on the buyers page under the positive, just to warn other sellers!
Why would you come here to brag about violating eBay policy? Are you suggesting that other sellers should put their accounts at risk by doing what you did?
02-16-2017 06:46 AM
@couldabeenworse wrote:insurance was purchased for full coverage. Buyer filed the claim because that was what I understood
In the future, it is wise for the seller to control the claim and refund the buyer directly. It is rarely wise to ask eBay what to do.
^^^ this.
02-16-2017 07:02 AM
I didn't attempt to read your entire "return policy" but most of the parts I did read aren't enforceable. You might be able to bully your way with some buyers, but if they know the rules, that's not going to fly.
Your approach and products seem perfect for a "No return" policy and then you won't have to deal with remorse returns. You would only have to deal with SNADs due to the MBG.
I repeat---a return policy is ONLY for remorse returns which can be for no reason at all.
02-16-2017 07:09 AM
@officiallorigashley wrote:Also, Sellers should look at the Feedback the Customer has left for other sellers! It will give you a good idea of the customer complaining history!
Further, NEVER leave feedback for any customer until after they have left feedback for you!
Reply to any negative feedback a customer leaves with your side too!
There are many was of still having your voice heard when eBay doesn't allow you to leave a bad buyer negative feedback!
Heck, I have been known to leave my reply to a bad feedback and post SELLERS BEWARE of this customer bad feedback left history on the buyers page under the positive, just to warn other sellers! Sellers need to click on the feedback left button for every new customer before filling an order with them!
Sellers have the option to refund without fulfilling the order too!
When sellers start taking every measure to control of the customers scamming that eBay protects, eBay will see sellers will take control by using their measures too!
I also find it interesting that you're directing low-feedback buyers away from eBay to make purchases. Major policy violation.
"We will not accept "zero (0) feedback" orders. If you have less than "five (5) feedback" score, you order will be cancelled. Required to use our brand site to order"
02-16-2017 07:14 AM
My policy is and has been enforceable! It is NOT bullying either! I am an actual TRADEMARKED BRAND! I am not here to give my products away to scammers! For the very most part, my customers are honest and COMPLETELY happy with my brand products. I OWN the right to determine the refund/exchange policy. If a customer does not wish to agree to my policy terms, they have the option NOT to purchase and use my products, just as I have the option not to sell to them too! Bullying is when scammers try to buy a product, keep it but try to get a refund without returning the product or returning the product used, ectra. The scammers on eBay have figured out how to abuse eBays policy of allowing them to get away with their scams. It is up to the sellers to be proactive in protecting theirself against these scammers! If that offends the scammers, too bad! They are the problem! Not the honest sellers!
02-16-2017 07:26 AM
Well, outside of most of that beng unenforcible here, none of that wall of text is in your listings on ebay, or accessable through any links. So where is that wall of text?
So if you think you can enforce a return policy from your website to your buyers here, it doesn't work that way.
02-16-2017 07:26 AM
That is not a violation! Sellers have a right to know when a bad buyer leaves false and bad feedback on a sellers page! We can reply with that on our response page! What we can't do is go to their page and leave a negative review because eBay does not allow it! eBay only allows buyers to leave negative reviews on our pages! So, when I respond to a false negative review on MY page, it WILL show up in their feedback left for others under the feedback they left for me! If the bad buyers don't want the world to know thay are doing their **bleep**, they had better think twive before doing it! It is one thing to have honestly delt with a bad seller. It is just wrong to lie on honest sellers. Especially when the bad seller left feedback page is full of leaving bad feedback on seller pages and eBay still allows that buyer to buy on eBay! Without the honest sellers, eBays pandering to scamming customers won't have anything left but scammers and bad sellers at the rate their policy is. Too many other sites to go to like etsy, bonanza, ect..... Honest sellers are getting fed up with the scammers being allowed to get away with scamming. Anyone not happy that honest sellers can learn how to protect their selves against the scammers are the real problem. Not the honest sellers providing information to the honest sellers on how to protect their selves against the scammers that have figured out how to get something for nothing. My belief is that is the same as stealing and being a thief! Don't like it, too bad! I as a seller dislike liars and thieves!that uses a system to get away with it.
02-16-2017 07:36 AM
@officiallorigashley wrote:It is up to the sellers to be proactive in protecting theirself against these scammers! If that offends the scammers, too bad!
@officiallorigashley, if you're going to vent about what scumbags prospective buyers are, you might want to start posting under an anonymous Posting ID on these boards which are public forums and "Google-able" meaning anyone in the world can read your posts and is privy to your "business philosophy."
But on the other hand, prospective buyers probably can probably get a fair idea of what to expect based on customer interactions noted in your eBay feedback summary. I dunno. Wouldn't inspire a lot of confidence if I read some of your comments before I placed an order but to each their own.