08-09-2023 07:17 PM
I sold a hurricane lamp chimney earlier this week. The buyer and I had several communications about the size, and I provided photos with a tape measure to provide the best information possible prior to purchase.
I received a return request because the "gorgeous" item "doesn't fit."
"Seller does not accept returns" appears in the listing.
Any suggestions on how best to handle this?
Thanks!
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08-09-2023 08:56 PM
”In your experience, what, if any, are potential negative ramifications if I choose not to accept the return?”
There are several possible negative outcomes.
One is they leave you negative feedback. Two, they can open an Item Not As Described case via the Money Back Guarantee—that means you will be forced to refund, pay for return shipping if you want the item back, and likely receive a defect on your account.
Three, they completely bypass eBay and go straight to a chargeback with the credit card company, where you’ll lose the item and the funds plus pay $20 in chargeback fees.
As a low feedback infrequent seller, the above outcomes might affect your account health. It boils down to evaluating whether it is worth the $28 to risk a negative outcome.
If it were my choice, i’d have set my policy at “Accepts returns, with buyer paying return shipping.” The reason i’d do it that way is to enhance the seller-buyer relationship with trust, rather than foster an “us against them” mentality. Good customer service could allow returns rather than create an unhappy buyer by making them keep an unwanted item—even if it was the buyer’s failure to adequately measure when the size was correctly given in the listing.
Or, one could float a possible alternate resolution to the buyer, by offering to refund minus the shipping charges since the measurements were clear.
Best of luck to you in any event. You have some really nice items in well done listings. No doubt you could re-sell the item again, raising the price slightly to recoup any losses.
08-09-2023 07:21 PM - edited 08-09-2023 07:22 PM
This link > Manage returns, missing items, and refunds for sellers has all the information you need to handle returns refunds etc..
You have the option to accept or decline the return.
08-09-2023 07:39 PM
Your "no returns" policy only applies to remorse returns.
If a customer files a NAD (not as described) return, you WILL be refunding the buyer.
If the buyer files a NAD return, here are your options...
A) Refund the let the buyer keep the item.
B) Accept the return. Provide and pay for a return shipping label. When the item is returned to you, issue the buyer a refund. If the item is not returned to you (which happens a lot), no refund and you will not be charged for the return shipping label.
C) Deny the return. Ebay will step in and eventually find in favor of the buyer and refund the buyer with your funds. Ebay will not require the buyer to return the item.
08-09-2023 07:50 PM
Thanks for responding...
This is a remorse return....item was as described and pictured, delivered safely and intact. Ebay notification of the request indicates that I'm not obligated to accept the return.
In your experience, what, if any, are potential negative ramifications if I choose not to accept the return?
Thanks,
08-09-2023 08:02 PM
In your own words -- "I received a return request because the "gorgeous" item "doesn't fit.""
So that's not a "remorse return" -- according to your buyer, it "doesn't fit."
Follow the instructions provided to you by @inhawaii .
If you dispute the return, eBay WILL side with the buyer (99.999% guaranteed!), and eBay will send the buyer a refund from YOUR account, plus the buyer will be allowed to keep the item, and you may also receive a defect from eBay. Multiple defects may get you suspended from eBay.
So accept the return, receive your item back, and refund the buyer. You'll only be short the shipping charges. Then you can list your item again.
Life happens.
08-09-2023 08:54 PM
I do not believe you are correct on this one. If the Seller has a NO RETURNS POLICY and EBAY shows in the RETURN REQUEST Field that the Seller DOES NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT THE RETURN then that means the BUYER Filed a Return Request other than ITEM NOT AS DESCRIBED. So, the seller does not have to accept that return as Ebay sees the "DOES NOT FIT" as a REMORSE RETURN. I have a NO RETURNS POLICY also. That message never appears on most returns. On the 2 that it has over the past 2 years I chose not to refund the buyer and the case closes automatically after denying the request.
08-09-2023 08:56 PM
”In your experience, what, if any, are potential negative ramifications if I choose not to accept the return?”
There are several possible negative outcomes.
One is they leave you negative feedback. Two, they can open an Item Not As Described case via the Money Back Guarantee—that means you will be forced to refund, pay for return shipping if you want the item back, and likely receive a defect on your account.
Three, they completely bypass eBay and go straight to a chargeback with the credit card company, where you’ll lose the item and the funds plus pay $20 in chargeback fees.
As a low feedback infrequent seller, the above outcomes might affect your account health. It boils down to evaluating whether it is worth the $28 to risk a negative outcome.
If it were my choice, i’d have set my policy at “Accepts returns, with buyer paying return shipping.” The reason i’d do it that way is to enhance the seller-buyer relationship with trust, rather than foster an “us against them” mentality. Good customer service could allow returns rather than create an unhappy buyer by making them keep an unwanted item—even if it was the buyer’s failure to adequately measure when the size was correctly given in the listing.
Or, one could float a possible alternate resolution to the buyer, by offering to refund minus the shipping charges since the measurements were clear.
Best of luck to you in any event. You have some really nice items in well done listings. No doubt you could re-sell the item again, raising the price slightly to recoup any losses.
08-09-2023 09:26 PM
A seller's "No Returns" policy is trumped by eBay's Money Back Guarantee policy to the buyer, except in remorse cases.
The OP clearly indicated that the buyer claims that the item didn't fit -- that is entirely different from "buyer's remorse."
The OP has not indicated what form of "return" case the buyer has opened, except to tell us that the buyer claimed that it "didn't fit."
Perhaps @delightdiscoveries could inform us what type of return case was opened.
08-09-2023 09:41 PM
I only mention this because I have a NO RETURNS policy and I had a buyer about 2 years ago file a return request for DOES NOT FIT. I was offered through the returns process to DENY THE CLAIM and I did. he bought new in package lightbulbs and claimed they did not fit. I checked decline return and the case was closed for GOOD.
08-09-2023 09:43 PM
@fashunu4eeuh pretty much covered all the potential negative ramifications.
FYI I also have a "no returns" policy but I am fully aware of ebay's money back guarantee to buyers. If I have a customer with a complaint (no matter how stupid), I usually go for A or B above. Let us know how it goes. Good luck!
08-09-2023 09:52 PM
I have also wondered if Ebay offers the right to decline to sellers under certain circumstances depending on if Ebay has deemed that the buyer has abused the returns policy repeatedly over time. Rather than just block them from all returns they may then offer this feature to sellers even though the seller has a no returns policy. Because again generally I rarely get return requests and I would say maybe 1 out of every 10 over the years has offered me to DECLINE even with my No Returns Policy. And the couple of times I have declined that was it case closed.
08-09-2023 10:07 PM
"Doesn't fit" is a buyer's remorse return.
08-10-2023 06:33 AM
Good morning Everyone!
08-10-2023 07:13 AM
I had to look up a hurricane lamp chimney just to make sure before I commented.
The buyer messed up. Apparently, they could not measure at their end or look at the photos the seller sent.
I don't know what the sale value was but just wonder if the seller would even get back the same item after the communication thread and photos with a tape measure to show the size.
I would entertain offering the buyer to return at their own cost and after receiving and inspecting, you will refund.
Since they did open a return case, you will need to communicate to the buyer within the case and point out the communication thread and photos you provided.
side note: This is something I do to protect myself as a seller as much as possible. If a potential buyer wants additional photos and/or information, I will also update the listing to include those photos and info. in case an issue should arise.
Good luck!
08-10-2023 07:19 AM
Since your buyers 'doesnt fit' is a remorse return, she should pay for return shipping. And since you have no returns listed on the lamp, Ebay would back you on that.