Potential problem with Promoted Listings impressions!
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09-14-2020 02:35 PM
I've been collecting information about what could be a potential problem, and thought this would be a good time to try to get some awareness out there of a potential problem.
I'll start off with some images, as images could describe a situation better than words can:
As you can see, as of September 3rd promoted impressions have suddenly taken a dive.
To explain, the blue bars are "Organic Impressions". Meaning the how often your items are appearing in search when buyers "naturally" search for you.
The green part of the bar are "Promoted Impressions", which determine how often you're appearing in your Sponsored/Promoted listings.
It seems the organic (natural) traffic has not experienced any change, but overnight there was a drop of Promoted Impressions!
Who is being affected:
Most of the sellers I know are in Motors, so up until this point I've only found other sellers in Motors who have been encountering this issue. That is partly why I am posting here; if you find you are experiencing this issue, please reply to this post and let us know what category you're selling in! Just because I haven't found this on other categories, does not mean the issue isn't happening elsewhere!
Do Trending Rates help?
It doesn't seem trending rates cause any differences for this issue.
eBay's stance:
Until this point, eBay has not given any official word on this. There's no way to tell if this is truly a bug, or a change they made, or if it's intended. I have asked the forum mods on here last week, and they had not replied. I have reported this issue to phone CSR's, and they have not received any updates from the tech team yet.
Might this also be the natural ebb & flow of eBay, or the current situation our country is in?
That does not seem to be the case. As you can see above, the organic traffic (the blue bar) has been 100% stable through this time.
This means the same amount of buyers are searching now as they were prior. The primary difference we're seeing here is for the promotions only.
This suggests, at least for this specific problem we're facing, that it is not a natural ebb & flow or economic situation. If it were, the organic traffic would have decreased. This would have also shown in the conversion rate, rather than impressions, as impressions are appearances in search, conversion rate are purchases.
Organic traffic being unchanged is hard evidence that buyers are still searching just as much as they were prior. Whether they buy or not is a different question, but that would be altering conversion rate, not impressions.
Furthermore, the change happened literally overnight, on a Thursday which is the date that is traditionally the day of the week eBay does their changes.
Could this be some type of penalty or punishment?
I've checked with eBay to make sure we have no penalties or punishments on our account, and they've said we have none. Furthermore, it seems to be category wide, so it doesn't seem to be any sort of penalty, unless if a penalty is somehow applying to the whole category.
Which type of listings seem to be the ones targeted by this change?
Sadly, due to changes in eBay's traffic page, this is IMPOSSIBLE to tell.
EBay's traffic page does NOT allow sellers the ability to sort by impressions. It does NOT allow you to sort by ANY value other than "Quantity Available". And it does NOT any longer allow you to save a spreadsheet/report of your information.
So due to these changes, there's absolutely no way for us to research the problem ourselves and find out exactly what listings are being targeted.
We're 100% reliant on eBay to figure out this one, sadly.
Might they have changed Sponsored Listings somehow for this drop to make sense?
If that were the case, it would likely mean that peer rates would have more or less weight in the new system. That doesn't seem to be the case.
Furthermore, any changes to the Sponsored Listing system which decide which listings appear in search, would mean the Sponsored Impressions would naturally move elsewhere. So far, this seems to be a drop across the board of this category, from what I've seen. As mentioned, I don't know if this is hitting other categories, but if you are experiencing this PLEASE let me know.
Why do I suspect this may be a bug:
1) As mentioned on the phone by an eBay rep, losing impressions for Promoted Listings not only hurts seller profits, but also helps eBay profits as they are entitled to the trending rate for promotions.
2) Organic impressions are unchanged, while promoted listings are much lower. This raises the question: "Where did all the impressions go?" as it doesn't seem to be a shift in who's receiving the traffic. It seems the promotions just *poof* and vanished.
3) Sponsored Listings are still showing on the search pages, but have some MAJOR issues. I have a Video linked here to display example what I mean. You can see here, some doubles ARE showing up in the Sponsored Listings section. Not only are they duplicates, but the price seems to be wrong on some of the Sponsored search results, and some of them report "Free Shipping" when the item was NOT free shipping. I searched down the page for additional listings so you can see multiple times on a single search page had this problem.
4) So far, this has been category wide across Motors > Parts & Acessories. But this problem has NOT been observed outside of this category.
5) One person who I discussed this issue with was also selling in Motors, but was not in P&A. Rather they sold items such as wax/etc. They reported that they DID have this problem at first, but the problem resolved for htem over the weekend of 9/5. Considering it was fixed on that category, suggests it may be a problem that was not yet fixed on our category. Or at the very least, some changing/experimentation is going on.
6) It's likely that issues that would cause such a drastic change in impressions, and therefore changes in sales, would have some sort of warning from eBay. Not to say eBay doesn't change things that could alter your impressions (they do often). But if it were intended for Sponsored Impressions to go from 281,000 to 35,000 overnight, they would have likely informed sellers.
7) Motors > Parts & Accessories is one of the biggest selling categories on eBay. It simply serves no logic that eBay would WANT impressions to drop for such a large category! And that's assuming we're the only category this is happening to. I've yet to find out if there's others being targeted by this problem!
What do I hope to achieve with this post and/or what can I do to help?:
I have reported this issue last week, and eBay has been direct with us and said that their queue for tech support is based upon how many reports they have of this problem, and he mentioned something about there still being a follow-up on the case, so that means the report was still in queue.
In other words, unless the people who are experiencing this problem are able to discover it and report it, it may not be fixed any time soon.
This means it's of the utmost importance for us sellers to check if you're experiencing this problem, awareness is the first step! Then if so, make sure to report it to eBay! I would also appreciate it if you could post here as well, including the category of products you sell in, as any information we could provide eBay about exactly what the problem is could hopefully help in getting this issue resolved as fast as possible!
As mentioned earlier, again I have to stress that one of the biggest problems here is with the changes to the traffic page, we are 100% reliant on eBay to figure this one out. They took away the tools that would allow us to go through our inventory and find out which listings exactly are the ones that lost Promoted impressions.
Thank you and wishing all the best of luck on eBay. Hopefully we figure out this problem and get it resolved, or at least get an official response, as soon as possible!
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10-29-2020 10:44 AM
@valueaddedresource wrote:
@mcdougle4248 wrote:
@valueaddedresource wrote:The truth is plainly that you must spend more for the same thing that you got for less money before they began their "test". Period.
@zamo-zuan I really had hoped that wasn't the case when this all started, but I believe you are 100% correct.
Unfortunately, some of us will decide not to spend more on PL than we have in the past and it will mean fewer sales. The new suggested rates are almost double what the trending rates were in the category most of my listings are in. I just can not afford 12.5%-15% PL suggested rates.
@mcdougle4248 - it's a catch 22 for sure. There's no way this doesn't lead to a race to the bottom game where sellers either suffer from not having the impressions they used to or increase their prices to compensate for the increased ad costs.
I don't know if eBay just hasn't done the math here or they just don't care, but a huge part of being the "partner of choice" is offering a platform on which sellers can compete against the larger overall online marketplace.
If prices have to be 10% higher on eBay than a competing marketplace or direct site just to cover the additional costs of advertising, we all lose - including eBay in the long run.
This decision is short sighted, shady, underhanded and....I should just stop there before I get myself in trouble.
Exactly.
I've expressed the same sentiments a few years back. They actually have done this before. A couple years back when PL were first being pushed in 2018.
I made many posts explaining how this is bad for everyone involved, including eBay. In the short term, eBay might see increased profits. Problem is, this is lowering margins for the sellers, causing sellers to increase prices to compensate. And then once prices are increased, that's hurting consumers, and most important, the consumers are receiving NOTHING for this. It's not as if eBay is offering them anything for increased prices. It's simply a price increase for both customers and sellers, and eBay making out in the short term.
But long term, this increases prices on eBay as a whole, and makes eBay less competitive against competing marketplaces. Which in turn hurts eBay as a whole.
They learned this lesson in 2018 and changed things to be more reasonable.
I guess, new management, same mistakes. And hopefully the people in charge now learn the lesson that was learned years ago... But I worry that since the pandemic increased sales this year, they may not realize the problem until eBay hits a decline, and that may be too late to take action...
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10-30-2020 01:21 AM - edited 10-30-2020 01:21 AM
I'm having this exact issue except I sell in the clothing category. I woke up on October 18th to seeing that my promoted listing impressions had plummeted. I'll include a photo. They have not recovered at all. I've tried ending my campaign and restarting twice now and nothing is changing. My organic impressions have remained mostly steady but they've dipped a tiny bit too. I have contacted ebay via chat, Facebook, and phone and all they are telling me is that it's a glitch with promoted listings not reporting correctly but they swear they haven't actually gone down and it shouldn't affect my sales. Well my sales have been affected a lot actually. I don't at all believe this is just a glitch with the reporting, I think my promoted listing impressions actually have tanked. I lost Top Rated Seller a month before this started and I'm wondering if that has something to do with it but why would it take a whole month for my account to start feeling the affects of losing TRS? All I know is my sales were fantastic and business was booming and to have it all come crashing down out of nowhere with no explanation is incredibly frustrating. Ebay is my main income and I'm worried that I'll have to pull away and find something else now.
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11-01-2020 11:14 PM
Update: For me, the number of impressions tanking was the result of my Promoted Listings not showing with the Sponsored tag in search results. This was across the board: all of my Promoted Listings were not actually being promoted.
Over the course of the last 5 days, I've been told a Tech ticket has been opened, the priority has been raised because multiple sellers have observed the issue. I've been told the fix is being rolled out in batches and that my estimated fix window is between 1-2 weeks from yesterday (10/31).
The team that opened the Tech ticket was the "Seller Performance Team". The team that told me about the Tech Ticket being fixed in batches and the estimated timeframe was the "Concerned Team"
No matter how high I've set PL, here is no bearing to my impressions. I'm hopeful that this "TechTicket" will solve the problem.
Time will certainly tell.
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11-02-2020 09:12 AM
That’s what I noticed too! None of my listings actually have the sponsored tag on them either. I’m hoping we share the same problem and that mine will also be fixed soon. Thanks for this post
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11-02-2020 10:02 AM
I know it is just asking way too much, but it sure would be nice to get some trustworthy and consistent answers from eBay about this issue.
Depending on who you talk to and when you talk to them, this is either a "test", "working as intended", or a "known technical issue."
Well, which is it?! And why is it so hard for eBay to just communicate with sellers? 😞
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11-02-2020 03:43 PM
Well in response to @goody.grabs , you're right. Obviously any associated sales drop, or views drops for that matter, are an indication that it is NOT the result of improper reporting.
But I should also mention, TRS does make a HUGE difference. A seller who used to work with us lost his TRS status and immediately went from page 1 to page 4-5.
Sad to say but that's most likely your problem 😞 You asked about it taking awhile to take effect, well honestly, sometimes eBay does algorithm updates weekly, sometimes it takes a month or more. Although it's usually on Thursdays. So I'd guess that you most likely can see a difference taking effect on a Thursday. If that is the case, it's definitely the algorithm placing you differently.
@shke4764 That's different from the issue we're facing. Ours are showing up as promoted still.
Seller Performance team? Uh, that's odd, as we had never been connected to that team before. Even more alarming, that is what the team over at Amazon calls themselves. I hope this isn't another way eBay is becoming like Amazon, because their Seller Performance team has progressively become harder and harder to get in contact with, and that has made dealing with certain types of issues a nightmare.
In regards to "rolling out the fix in batches"... I don't know about that, lol. I guess we have to wait and see. But why on earth do they constantly have issues like this every holiday?!?!
@valueaddedresource Exactly. We don't know the truth, and it's sad...
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11-06-2020 10:18 AM
If the issue is TRS, I get it back this month so honestly it'd be great if everything went back to normal after that. I'm hopeful but I won't hold my breath.
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11-06-2020 10:34 AM
@goody.grabs wrote:If the issue is TRS, I get it back this month so honestly it'd be great if everything went back to normal after that. I'm hopeful but I won't hold my breath.
I can't speak if that's your only problem in this case, but getting it back should certainly make a big difference!
Just be aware, if you get it back, it may not be immediate that things return to normal. EBay's algorithm doesn't update daily. It might be a week or a couple weeks until things change. But the next algorithm update - most likely it'll be on a Thursday - you should see some improvement!
Hopefully things go completely back to normal by then and there's no other problems that you're facing!
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11-06-2020 11:04 AM
@zamo-zuan - forgive me for taking this a bit off topic, but I thought you and others experiencing these PL issues might be interested in this thread about the possibility of the Quarterly Promoted Listings Credits going away.
It is my suspicion that eBay may have the eventual goal of collecting PL ad fees at time of sale rather than on the monthly invoice.
First we had these odd PL impression drops, which resulted in many sellers having to increase their ad rates just to gain back the previous levels of performance. That in turn I'm sure was at least a factor in the significant PL revenue growth on eBay's Q3 financials.
Now there is some confusion but it looks likely that eBay is going to attempt to do away with the quarterly PL credits - which would remove any logistical reasons for them to have to bill the ad fees on the monthly invoice instead of taking them off the top in Managed Payments like they do with FVF.
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11-06-2020 11:09 AM - edited 11-06-2020 11:09 AM
@valueaddedresource wrote:@zamo-zuan - forgive me for taking this a bit off topic, but I thought you and others experiencing these PL issues might be interested in this thread about the possibility of the Quarterly Promoted Listings Credits going away.
It is my suspicion that eBay may have the eventual goal of collecting PL ad fees at time of sale rather than on the monthly invoice.
First we had these odd PL impression drops, which resulted in many sellers having to increase their ad rates just to gain back the previous levels of performance. That in turn I'm sure was at least a factor in the significant PL revenue growth on eBay's Q3 financials.
Now there is some confusion but it looks likely that eBay is going to attempt to do away with the quarterly PL credits - which would remove any logistical reasons for them to have to bill the ad fees on the monthly invoice instead of taking them off the top in Managed Payments like they do with FVF.
Can't say for sure, but it would certainly be consistent with the direction they seem to be heading.
I'm not sure why their "instant payments" are such a priority, as that is the first thing that's most noticeable when switching to MP.
Although if they really think instant payments are so important, I hope they would prioritize transferring the payments to sellers on such prompt terms would be reasonable as well.
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11-09-2020 03:28 PM
Has anyone managed to overcome this? Or does anyone have any new answers? Any updates at all?
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11-10-2020 03:36 AM - edited 11-10-2020 03:38 AM
I have long believed that the whole PL system is a farce that does little more than make eBay more money.
When the high PL bar in the graph crashes, that is their lie coming undone and showing the truth.
I used to get many sales overnight, except for the promoted listings. They wouldn't even get new views overnight. It was like promoting them froze them.
I have also seen different suggested percentages for listings of the same item. It's all made up......smoke and mirrors to make us think we're getting something for giving them more money.
It's very likely that PL only exists in theory and the power of suggestion.
They wouldn't do that to us.....would they ?!
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11-11-2020 03:28 PM
Massive search problems affecting both promoted and organic listings today. Both mine and competitor's top item spots on page are no where to be found.
Affecting desktop version and IOS eBay app. Android eBay app appears to be functioning as normal.
This has happened before. Took eBay about a week to fix it.
Already have a ticket submitted to technical team. If anyone is experiencing this same issue, please call and submit a ticket. Only way this will get fixed faster is if people submit more tickets.
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11-11-2020 10:40 PM
I agree with Frugality ^ Massive search problems affecting both promoted and organic listings. Its very difficult, but none of our listings are found anywhere via search results- contacted eBay and support ticket initiated. awaiting results on rectifying the issue. All 5,000 listings= suppressed a this time.
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11-12-2020 07:43 AM
thank you for the information
