12-17-2023 02:38 PM
Recently sold a brand new and rare game that was sealed and brand new, and a bonus 2nd game that was new and open box with some box damage with pictures clearly showing the damage, the buyer is now contesting the auction was not as described and wants to return, now here is the thing - after checking the buyers feedback and even contacting a few people who sold to him, they all have said the exact same thing - that this buyer is doing the old switch-a-roo scam, one person who sold a like new open box game, with pics of the game disc and the buyer returned with a broken box and a damaged disc that clearly was not the same - the buyer is seems to be doing it very infrequently enough to try to stay under the radar - and like me, has been an Ebay member for along time and thus here is the dilemma, the longer you've been a member you know all the tricks, what you can get away with and what you cannot.
This is when I do NOT TRUST Ebay's seller protections, and everyone who's been on Ebay for a significantly long time knows this, if this person does indeed to commit any type of fraud then one thing is for certain, I cannot rely on Ebay here for any protection.
Has anyone actually managed to get Ebay to actually side with the seller even when clear fraud is evident? I'm not so worried about the bonus game if this person tries to switch out my brand new shiny game disc for a scratched and worthless one, because that game isn't worth much at all, more worried about the sealed rare game. The other issue is that many Ebayers always contest the "Brand new" label, Brand New doesn't have to mean its factory sealed either, Brand new and unused, Brand New - Open box etc and once again, Ebay does not side with the seller nearly as much as it should even when its an open and shut case and even in some cases will feed you a standard script.
I've personally sold a lot of games and purchased too, sure - sometimes as a buyer myself that the seller has neglected to mention some minor damage or over-stated the game's condition but most of the time its been acceptable, but occasionally you do get predatory scammers who try to look for any cracks in your items description to exploit, and it isn't always possible to write a 50 page document accurately describing your item to prevent this type of abuse.
I feel like submitting a police report and a mail fraud incident to the post office doesn't have any impact for the seller after all, if you've been ripped off and ebay will not step in on your behalf most of the time and I'm not sure how actually impactful this is for the fraudulent buyers especially if they skirt under the radar by only doing this type of fraud infrequently.
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12-17-2023 08:58 PM
@hiiragi_tsukasa wrote:This is what feedback is for, to see if the seller or buyer is above board and legitimate. After all, if you saw an item for sale and it was a good price, you wanted it and decided to check and the seller had a poor rating with a multitude of negative reviews all with clear motive for lying and cheating, you'd think twice right?
Before buying I always check their feedback and also check the feedback they leave for buyers.
Sometime the feedback they leave will tell you more about the seller then the feedback they receive.
If the seller is known for violating policies, would you trust them?
12-17-2023 09:19 PM
This is my 2nd potential return fraud in the past 4 years so I should consider myself lucky, the first time ebay did actually side with me and the buyer got a slap on the wrist but I had significantly more evidence as I had taken a lot more photos of the item and the buyer was obviously trying to get the item + refund.
I never did get the item back, but I did get a full refund from ebay - but again, that shows that sometimes the people committing the fraud still get away with it. No idea what happened to the buyer but wouldn't be surprised if he still on ebay.
12-22-2023 11:28 AM
Considering that the buyer hasn't even shipped back the item yet makes it even more sus, I get Christmas but had literally just about an entire week since the return label was issued, what I'm expecting is this person may use the label on the last allowable day to use it.
04-05-2024 11:53 AM
The "Switch-a-roo" is happening to me right now. I called ebay about it and they said to accept the refund and then once I get the "swapped" item to put in a fraud case with them against the seller. I too take a lot of high def pictures of the item and I actually take pictures of the item as I pack it and ship it. (item being put in the shipping box shots) The Buyer claims it was opened and used and it "just so happened" to have a paint defect.
At first I offered the buyer another identical new & sealed item... but he refused it. (why you may ask?... because his intention was always just to swap my new one with his defected one at the cost of me paying all of the shipping charges to arrange it .... and in the end I am the bag holder of his 'mispainted used one.')
In theory he is shipping the item back as we speak...
04-05-2024 12:19 PM
This thread is 5 months old & the OP selected their best answer, so I doubt they'll reply. Should you have any concerns or questions it's always a good idea to open your own thread to get the help & advice you need for your specific issues.
Happy Selling