11-20-2019 01:16 PM
I received the following message from a buyer:
"I am very disappointed. Please see the attached photos. This quality is unacceptable. However, I will wait to leave feedback until I hear from you I am giving you a chance to make this right. What will you do to remedy this?"
I am debating on what the best course of action is here. Seems to me that the buyer either wants the item for free or at a discount. I did take a glance at their feedback history to confirm my suspicions. Normally I would just tell the buyer to return for refund. However, I don't think the buyer is interested in returning the item. Plus, I am almost certain that they will open a SNAD case and I will have to pay return shipping + take a hit in my metrics (is this correct?). I am really tempted to ask the buyer what they want. If they openly ask for a discount, I can use that to have the feedback removed. So what would you do in this situation? And thanks in advance for the help! 🙂
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11-22-2019 04:27 PM
@cali_girl3 wrote:
Great tip! Thanks!!! Not sure how I would go about baiting them or what the "right things" are for eBay to remove their feedback but it seems like I need the buyer to ask for a partial/full refund while refusing to return the item right?
If you want to succeed on ebay you really need to know the rules inside and out, because you cannot expect anybody on ebay staff to know them correctly. You need to know the rules better than ebay staff and better than your customers. You also always have to call - pushing a button will never do ANYTHING, no they do not "investigate" as they claim, I'd be surprised if that button is even hooked up to anything.
A great read is ebay's "abusive buyer" policy. When a buyer violates this, you're off the hook for pretty much anything. It's also pretty vaguely written, so it can apply to a lot of situations. If you get negative feedback, you will have to call ebay, and then explain the abusive buyer policy to them before they will do anything.
I'll give you an example. I had a customer rudely ask when I was shipping his item. We were still well within the posted handling time. He tried to vaguely threaten me if I didn't ship it now but it was not direct enough for ebay to step in. My replies to him were just as rude as his own, without cussing, which almost always escalates the situation. Buyers still think the customer is always right, how dare you argue with them! Quite often the response will be further threats or harassment, and this will remove any negative feedback. They don't even have to make a direct threat - just get some back and fourth going on with them and start calling it "harassment". That is a violation of the "abusive buyer policy" and ebay MUST remove any feedback and defects. If this method doesn't work, simply hang up the phone, wait 10 minutes, and call back. It probably will if it didn't the first time.
Unfortunately ebay these days is all about playing games. You gotta know how to play if you want to keep your earned good reputation.
11-22-2019 04:45 PM
i have them retun to sender put it back in your hands for awile
11-22-2019 09:07 PM - edited 11-22-2019 09:08 PM
@paulcookscollectibles wrote:i have them retun to sender put it back in your hands for awile
Keep in mind that if it has been opened, this is a federal crime. You can't just repack it, you have to use new postage. I've had sleezy chinese sellers try to tell me to do this, and their illegal activity was reported to ebay by phone.
11-25-2019 08:56 AM
@cali_girl3 wrote:
@monster-deals wrote:
@cali_girl3 wrote:If they openly ask for a discount, I can use that to have the feedback removed.
They have already extorted you. No need to bend.
I'm not trying to bend. I just want to make sure that I am covered if the buyer leaves a negative. Since the buyer left a vague message, eBay may not look at it as feedback extortion.
Your buyer already extorted you. It plain and easy to see.
Getting an overseas rep to do anything about it is near impossible.
Getting a USA rep that is trained in ebay policy and follows ebay policy....and assuming there isn't a new secret policy is a 50/50.
You are covered....depending on how many calls you want to make and how much time you want to spend on the phone.
11-25-2019 09:40 AM
@zmoz wrote:I bait the buyer into saying something worse. Try to make them angry, see what kinds of stupid things they say in the heat of the moment.
Terrible advice. OP, just tell the buyer to return for refund and be done with it. Playing games as suggested rarely works out well for you as a seller.