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For those who enrolled in managed payments, have you guys had success calling ebay and then opting out?

 

I tested it and it was not right for me and I have called ebay twice. Each time, they try to convince me to stay in the program. I finally had them sent in a request for them to "send to the back office" for review for opting out.

 

Also, I have read about managed payments affecting API. I am not sure what that means? Can someone explain? Thanks

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Some people have reported sucess in getting opted out by calling.  Others not so much.  There were instructions on how to "opt out" in the managed payments user agreement, but it has since been removed.  It involved calling as well. 

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In the "Payments" discussion board, there is a pinned thread from eBay. You might be interested in reading it:

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Payments/eBay-Managed-Payments-One-Week-In/m-p/29034734#M53830

This paragraph will be of interest to you:

"What are my options if managed payments isn’t right for my business now?
We are working with sellers one-on-one to understand whether managed payments is a fit for them. If managed payments doesn’t work for a seller, we want to work with them to see if we can help them be successful with the changes, ensure we understand and document what isn’t working, and if needed revert their account to the prior state. That said, the process to revert accounts to their prior payment settings can be complex as orders and listings can be in different states, and this process needs to be managed individually with each seller. "

By the way, that eBay member they quote, "PowerSellingMom," is an "eBay Certified Business Consultant." Google her. Doesn't surprise me she'd make that kind of a statement about the new system.
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API Application Planning Interface

 

From How To Geek:

 

Application Programming Interface

The term API is an acronym, and it stands for “Application Programming Interface.”

Think of an API like a menu in a restaurant. The menu provides a list of dishes you can order, along with a description of each dish. When you specify what menu items you want, the restaurant’s kitchen does the work and provides you with some finished dishes. You don’t know exactly how the restaurant prepares that food, and you don’t really need to.

Similarly, an API lists a bunch of operations that developers can use, along with a description of what they do. The developer doesn’t necessarily need to know how, for example, an operating system builds and presents a “Save As” dialog box. They just need to know that it’s available for use in their app.

This isn’t a perfect metaphor, as developers may have to provide their own data to the API to get the results, so perhaps it’s more like a fancy restaurant where you can provide some of your own ingredients the kitchen will work with.

But it’s broadly accurate. APIs allow developers to save time by taking advantage of a platform’s implementation to do the nitty-gritty work. This helps reduce the amount of code developers need to create, and also helps create more consistency across apps for the same platform. APIs can control access to hardware and software resources.

APIs Make Life Easier for Developers

Let’s say you want to develop an app for an iPhone. Apple’s iOS operating system provides a large number of APIs—as every other operating system does—to make this easier on you.

If you want to embed a web browser to show one or more web pages, for example, you don’t have to program your own web browser from scratch just for your application. You use the WKWebView API to embed a WebKit (Safari) browser object in your application.

If you want to capture photos or video from the iPhone’s camera, you don’t have to write your own camera interface. You use the camera API to embed the iPhone’s built-in camera in your app. If APIs didn’t exist to make this easy, app developers would have to create their own camera software and interpret the camera hardware’s inputs. But Apple’s operating system developers have done all this hard work so the developers can just use the camera API to embed a camera, and then get on with building their app. And, when Apple improves the camera API, all the apps that rely on it will take advantage of that improvement automatically.

This applies to every platform. For example, do you want to create a dialog box on Windows? There’s an API for that. Want to support fingerprint authentication on Android? There’s an API for that, too, so you don’t have to test every different Android manufacturer’s fingerprint sensor. Developers don’t have to reinvent the wheel over and over.

APIs Control Access to Resources

APIs are also used to control access to hardware devices and software functions that an application may not necessarily have permission to use. That’s why APIs often play a big role in security.

RELATED: How to Stop Websites From Asking For Your Location

For example, if you’ve ever visited a website and seen a message in your browser that the website is asking to see your precise location, that website is attempting to use the geolocation API in your web browser. Web browsers expose APIs like this to make it easy for web developers to access your location—they can just ask “where are you?” and the browser does the hard work of accessing GPS or nearby Wi-Fi networks to find your physical location.

However, browsers also expose this information via an API because it’s possible to control access to it. When a website wants access to your exact physical location, the only way they can get it is via the location API. And, when a website tries to use it, you—the user—can choose to allow or deny this request. The only way to access hardware resources like the GPS sensor is through the API, so the browser can control access to the hardware and limit what apps can do.

This same principle is used on modern mobile operating systems like iOS and Android, where mobile apps have permissions that can be enforced by controlling access to APIs. For example, if a developer tries to access the camera via the camera API, you can deny the permission request and the app has no way of accessing your device’s camera.

File systems that use permissions—as they do on Windows, Mac, and Linux—have those permissions enforced by the file system API. A typical application doesn’t have direct access to the raw physical hard disk. Instead, the app must access files through an API.

APIs Are Used For Communication Between Services

APIs are used for all kinds of other reasons, too. For example, if you’ve ever seen a Google Maps object embedded on a website, that website is using the Google Maps API to embed that map. Google exposes APIs like this to web developers, who can then use the APIs to plop complex objects right on their website. If APIs like this didn’t exist, developers might have to create their own maps and provide their own map data just to put a little interactive map on a website.

And, because it’s an API, Google can control access to Google Maps on third-party websites, ensuring they use it in a consistent way rather than attempting to messily embed a frame that shows the Google Maps website, for example.

This applies to many different online services. There are APIs for requesting text translation from Google Translate, or embedding Facebook comments or tweets from Twitter on a website.

RELATED: What Is OAuth? How Those Facebook, Twitter, and Google Sign-in Buttons Work

The OAuth standard also defines a number of APIs that allow you to sign into a website with another service—for example, to use your Facebook, Google, or Twitter accounts to sign into a new website without creating a new user account just for that site. APIs are standard contracts that define how developers communicate with a service, and the kind of output those developers should expect to receive back.


If you’ve gotten through this, you’ll have a better idea of what an API is. Ultimately, you don’t really need to know what an API is unless you’re a developer. But, if you see a software platform or service has added new APIs for various hardware or services, it should be easier for developers to take advantage of such features.

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So basically, the new payment system is changing how the Ebay system works, in my opinion.

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

So basically, the new payment system is changing how the Ebay system works, in my opinion.


I agree.

 

Unfortunately, the cart is trying to pull the horse, in my opinion.  This was nowhere near ready.  It was crazy to implement this without being Paypal ready - how many sellers who signed up truly realized that they wouldn't be able to be paid by Paypal and didn't understand how they'd get their money (if they made any)?

 

And how ridiculous is their Rube Goldberg proposal for partial refunds on s/h or anything else, never mind the fact you have to pay for shipping via Paypal PLUS all the rest of the ill-thought out, inadequately beta-tested mess they made.  

 

This thing is so not ready for Prime Time.


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from USA Today article on Feb. 2018 about eBay managed payments
Shares of PayPal sunk 7% Thursday after its former parent revealed it would no longer use the payments service as its primary processing partner.
Along with its earnings report after hours Wednesday, eBay announced a deal with processor Adyen to become its primary partner. The company said PayPal will continue to remain a payments option for eBay buyers during checkout, at least for a few years.
When it starts
EBay said it will start the transition in payments processing later this year, with the majority of its marketplace customers using the new partner by 2021.
The e-commerce pioneer said the change will lead to lower costs for sellers, along with more options and a more integrated checkout experience for buyers. Netherlands-based Ayden also provides payment services for Netflix, Spotify and Uber. Ebay shares rose 15% Thursday after a better-than-forecast outlook.
"After careful consideration, we believe that we can offer a more seamless experience while giving buyers and sellers more choice for payment and payout options," President and CEO Devin Wenig said during eBay's quarterly earnings call.
What about PayPal?
EBay said PayPal will remain "an important partner," with a deal keeping the service as an option to make purchases in the marketplace until July 2023.
The online marketplace acquired PayPal in 2002,spinning off in 2014, partly due to pressure from activist investor Carl Icahn, who had long advocated for a split of the two companies.
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i feel the need to resurrect this discussion since its pertinent to selling this holiday season - after mistakenly opting into managed payment without knowing i could not opt out, i saw a major decline in sales with many buyers asking why i do not accept paypal. when i called to opt out, i got a sharp tongued rep who repeated insulted my logic for wanting to opt out of managed payments - she actually initially told me 'we do not currently have a way to opt sellers out of managed payments' only when i pushed back did she say she would 'submit a report' but there was no guarantee i could be opted out at this point and so far ive heard nothing back. its really a sickening situation - great way for ebay to lose sellers AND buyers who use paypal (which is a lot). my guess is that 'managed payments' is actually a 3rd party company behind the scenes going under the ebay name.

do yourself a favor DO NOT SIGN UP FOR EBAY MANAGED PAYMENTS!

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Well...

 

The reason I opted in is because experience tells me "opt in now or later but opt in you will" because that seems to be the ebay way so it really doesn't matter, I took the plunge to get it over with.

 

So then...

The first thing I noticed is I lost the ability to sell via GSP but let me explain because it wasn't upfront... Rather, the system would fail to relist my listings that used the GSP due to the fact the new "managed payments" somehow doesn't involve the GSP... So warnings and listings that fail to relist...

This meant developing several new shipping / selling policies to accomodate for this and to include all the listings that use the GSP in these new policies that now do not... That process took more than a few minutes, it's not the way I really want it setup, and last but not least I'm also losing a minor amount of sales.

 

Then I noticed my buyers who want to return items can no longer print a return shipping label, this also deserves further explanation... You see, when I first opted in to managed payments I then transferred all my Paypal funds out of paypal and into the account that I set up for managed payments. The reasons behind this are the money isn't doing me much good sitting in Paypal, also when paypal has NO balance I can use my credit card for shipping and get a % cash back thank you but... When a buyer goes to print a return label ebay wants to access my funds to pay for said label and it goes to?

It should go to my new bank account that it is using for managed payments, that is where the funds are!

But it doesn't do that, ebay goes looking in Paypal for funds to pay for the label and when it finds none the API either freezes or crashes, not sure which but it doesn't matter because the program is stuck.

The buyer is now unable to print a label.

 

Side note...

While a piece of me wants to giggle gleefully at this bug I also realize this is causing these buyers much frustration and that in the end we will all pay for the fact these buyers could not return their items because of this bug.

 

Someone mentioned that this was one of the worst prepared releases, that ebay was nowhere near ready to go 'managed payments...' I could not agree more.

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You all, should see whats happening on Betsy. It's in a total uproar over there with a brand new system that is coming our way here. Soon. I opened up and immediately shut it down. Welcome to the hotel california.... what a lovely place. It's all a bad dream. Isnt it?

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According to ebay they're NOT implementing the pay as you go system etsy has. The main issue with etsy's is that they brought it in and started deducting payments that weren't technically "due" until the 15th.

ebay has said we will still get a monthly invoice for the usual fees.
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could u do this  open a second store  move most of your items to it and then if a coustomer  wants a iten and contacts u for this item asking why u dont have paypal then just send them to the new stroe add the item and  off u go that way u dont lose any sales  while trying to get out of the new program  just a idea thats all 

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Most buyers won't even bother contacting the seller.
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Well you seem to know.  Someone ought to tell ebay to keep their hands off stand alone paypal accounts. Never mind the direct deposits. Let each seller decide how they want to do it.  And keep direct paypal as an option  TOO!  Oh, but they're phasing out Pay pal. It's looking a bit fishy to me both sites are up adyens bottom. I wonder who's getting a kickback from that?What FOOLS they are. Basically that seems to be a part of what's irking everyone. CONTROL over their OWN money. How ridiculous these sites are becoming.

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@ittybitnot wrote:

Some people have reported sucess in getting opted out by calling.  Others not so much.  There were instructions on how to "opt out" in the managed payments user agreement, but it has since been removed.  It involved calling as well. 


I think it was removed because the last date for anyone to request opting out was the end of October.

 

 

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