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Now That October Is Over, How Much Were You Down? Worst Month?

A lot of people say October was the worst month this year, I am in that boat. I think eBay would agree, especially after they sent out those $5 off coupons last week.

 

What about you? Was this the worst month? How much were you down? If not October, which month was your worst? 

 

I was down 47% last month, by far my worst this year. 

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That pretty much sums up all rich people as far as I'm concerned. The problem with these elections is neither party appoints someone worthy of the position. Those cry babies really wanted the Clintons in again?
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me too, just at the beginning of Nov and sales are more steadily
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I agree! Worst month in recent memory. So far November is not off to a great start either! This 'item specifics" update seems to be what killed me! I am so sick of ebay and their constant changes. I sold 17 things labor day weekend which is AMAZING for me. September was best month for me in a long time. Now it's been nothing but crickets since basically!

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@this*old*attic wrote:

Sure, and he name calls and lives on Twitter, would date his daughter if he could, brags about molesting women, ran a fake college, won’t turn over his tax returns like every president since the 80s or so, fails to pay his contractors, can’t fathom the concept of “conflict of interest,” fills his hotels with visiting dignitaries, boosted the credibility of a murderous dictator because he thought he was winning a friend, blabs classified info to the press so his general needs to tell him to stop talking, has rolled us back 20 years or more in terms of environmental protection, hides his white supremacy behind a claim of nationalism, lies and inflates himself on a regular basis, reneges on promises to valuable proven allies, doesn’t bother to read or flagrantly ignores the info material seasoned staffers give him, holds national assets hostage to quid pro deals that benefit him personally, lies, is crass and an embarrassment, and has made our ONCE GREAT NATION AN UTTER LAUGHING STOCK TO THE REST OF THE WORLD...

 

But, yeah, whatever.

 

Meanwhile, we may NEVER regain our standing and the respect with which we’ve been held, on the international stage.

 

My MIL literally believes he’s the anti-Christ.

 

 I used to laugh but now I agree.

 

There’s no other explanation for why/how people blindly follow him and rationalize every move he makes.


You could have easily said all the same stuff about Bill Clinton . Nobody passed around himself more often  DURING his presidency than he did.  Tulips 

 

 holds national assets hostage to quid pro deals that benefit him personally  Redrose 

 

Except that never happened  unless you were talking about Joe Biden ? Tulips 

 

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Yes and I'm sick of eBay and all the glitches! I cancelled my premium store and cancelled all my listings, I'm doing the Basic Store with 100 listings, I sent 6 boxes of stuff I had listed on eBay to Amazon FBA and most of it is already sold! We also rented a booth in a new Antique Mall for $94.00 a month and I was paying $79 on eBay with no sales ...I cannot rely on eBay and I thank them for motivating me to go elsewhere for the majority of my stuff.  They need to realize that they are not the only game in town! 

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Pretty bad with $80 over 3 sales.  Not my worst month this year though.  September was a goose egg.  That's all I can see from the lousy dashboard.  If I look up my real records, I'd expect at least two other zeros and $80/3 being on the upper end.

 

It's funny.  Back in 2013-2014, I could usually expect a steady $300/5 every month.  Every month, once I hit either $300 or 5 sales, they shut the faucet off, sometimes with 3 weeks to go.  It upset me at the time because I was trying to kickstart a business but now I only wish they'd deliver so much so I can get out from under it.

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@rktoyandhobbyexactly what i have been saying for a long time...

once your sales are up (month to date / year to date), once you are in the green, sales will stop.....until you are back in the red again.....

sales have been horrible since july / september...

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$94 a month at an antique mall is really good. North Texas are all at $200 or more a month.

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My last sale was for 5 dollars and it was the only sale I had in Oct..... I have went from Top rate Power Seller to no Seller............

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Worst month in ,ore than 10 years.  We usually do 400+k a year.  Last June we were on target to have a 600k year but with the summer update, our sales just dumped.

Its not us as the "apologists here will be quick yo point out.  Our website with no SEO is coming up in front of ebay in many searches so IM starting to not care.  I never did much with the website besides build it because we have 55k months on ebay. rarely below 45 for a long time.

We have decided to take our 4000+ listings down to 1000 and drop our store subscription to the $79. That will save us a few thousand a year in fees and the new listings and work go into our website.  This place is trashed and everything they say we need to do to makes it worse.

 

We have a special usps pickup route that comes daily and were going to lose it since we have days with 3 packages. Once that happens we close completely here, and play around more on others or just start writing and doing a lot on our site.

We were killing it month over month until last June and its been mostly down but a few moments where ebay seemed to be working ok but now its terrble as buyer and seller. 

Now were getting saturday small sales that are asked to be canceled sunday so were losing money on stuff were not selling.   Paypal is going to e boycotted by us. We use braintree on our website out of ease but its going away this week.  Weve put 8 million dollars through paypal over the years.

This is not us, we didnt overnight have a decline in interest of what we sell. Half the people I see saying "supply and demand" here sell $10 items and are pushing their commenst as absolute knowledge. Our average sale price for years is $130 approximately. Rarely a day below $1000. My partner and I both at least took micro and macro econ in college. Doesnat make us geniuses but we can clearly see what happening.  Lots of political science and were pretty big political junkies and the word salad and lack of actual trasparency here is just like the government and the terrible political campaigns that are only meant to mislead and protect the status quo. 

These companies all being bought up by private equity kills them and ruins many great small businesses. Many will survive and move elsewhere but for some the momentum and timing has passed. It is killing the american economy and hopefully we see change soon and large investigations of whats been happening everywhere. There is a big political change happening. This is politics. 

 

Its a great disservice having people here that I suspect are "social care agents" but not identifying themselves as that, who are attacking anyone with real issues.  Meaning they work while on these boards, maybe not directly for ebay but maybe Khoros/lithium, maybe even another sub-contracted party.  No issue with company reputation specialists but when the dont identify themselves, its gas lighting.  The youtube videos have blown up compared to last year about whats going on here.

Weve done everything ebay has asked for over the years, reluctantly many time sand with dire consequences many times. Now we  will downsize and sell off what is listed and promote ourselves elsewhere.  Other than the corrupt political environment, dealing with this has just been so infuriating and to be told its not happening when we are not even close to your average seller in inventory or sales. It takes all of our energy to deal with the amazonification where returns quadruple almost overnight and to be led on by ebay with platitudes and non acknowledgment of errors and issues and the cheerleaders here constantly reaching in to the TOS/UA to quickly tell everyone. Nope ebay isnt responsible for anything. If the site is down, its our fault. If the tools dont work, its our fault. If our sales dumped 80% overnight, its seasonal and noone wants what we sell anymore. Many times coming from real people selling collectable staues for $10 (no offense to anyone successfully doing that but you dont speak for the markets that you dont understand and items that are highly sought after in both function and collectability) Thats a double whammy, a useful item that goes up in value.

The first thing to go in times of recessions and hardships is "beanie babies" unless people are storing their wealth there. Things that sit on mantles. Not rare original auto parts that wealthy people need to keep their 100k cars moving.  recessions make those people more money. Those are the unfortunate dips where they buy stock and property becasue they can hang for 10 years.  In 10 years that almost useless but functional auto will be worth more to be traded between the wealthy collectors and hobbyists.  Those markets slump from time to time but, most functional design and art stands the test of time and is generally a safer bet than individual stocks.

Sorry, I dont post often but, the negativity around watching everything being destroyed and knowing its happening, whether through neglect, bad leadership, or low end algorithms that arent working as intended but noone will acknowledge it who had a hand in it is a bummer. We dont ahve to know the specifics of why or even how to see the end result is not just 10 of us complaining of catastrophically lower sales. Im sure if someone were to count accounts here and a few other places, it would be a significant number. Perhaps a poll of how much people are down this year against several other years.

I wouldnt even doubt that this could be an intentional way of cleaving the company apart, devaluing it and it being purchased cheaply to be hoolwed out and polished up and resold at a phenominal amount to unsuspecting buyer or buyers who just want to get rid of the competion but cant legally do so.   Smashing companies is profitable. You can short its stock on the way down, sell off chunks, and then PR it to death.

When people say why would ebay do this. There are many reasons and it may just be whos controlling ebay.  I pay under 9% when selling 45k a month and I'm guessing this months pitance will be at least a couple % higher. 

This morning Im seeing europeans that I keep and eye ons listings in ebay search but, when I click on "sellers other items" , I see only 1 or 2 listings. When I click on their iD it says 100 listing. I can see 4 listings advretised on the bottom of their ID page. The sidebar is missing the "worldwide" tab.  Ive been told in the past, that this is becasue they are not selling on ebay.com but only their countries sites but im literally seeing some of their listings on ebay.com when searching ebay.com but cannot access any of those listings through "sellers other items".  The items advertised on ebay.com are available to eb shipped to the US but they are not findable through the seller at all.

Ive seen this for years and at certain times our international sales dry up. I cant understand how the format of looking at sellers other items changes and how we can search. The sidebar could still say worldwide and then just not bring back listings not spec'd for worldwide shipping.  Im sure I'll get several responses from the same peopel as usual but there is no consistency. Its like 2 different ebay page layouts almost.  Is today the day where I have the option of seeing the "worldwide" box in a sellers searches or the one where i cant see their listings.

There is no conspiracy, Ebay is screwed up for a myriad of reasons and maybe that dip in items sold is from us big sellers who buy and flip on ebay stopping spending due to having very little faith in selling what was not long ago very easy.  Noep not seasonal, out of vogue goods.

I would rather write a bunch vs everyday. My blood pressure literally goes up.

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I'm selling from Europe, October 19 worst month EVER!!!

People are out of money?

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For one thing it is a proven fact that the economy is doing much better under Trump due to the growing upward job statistics, consumer spending confidence, retirement funds and the surge of the Dow Jones stock market proves that.

 

But however online sales have been declining for years now from the reviews and comments and the good old days on Ebay particularly are over as more and more people enter and newer sites are coming on board.  Not to mention that over the years the new rules on Ebay has notably forced a lot of the sellers to leave due to declines in sales and because of Ebay's & Paypal's one sided anti-seller unfair policies and advertisements of other suggested buying options on your site.  So alot of  Buyers and Sellers have moved on and lost trust on buying and selling on Ebay and I can't blame them. 

 

As for the USA online sellers, we all need to at least thank Pres. Trump for stepping up to curtailing the #1 over privileged big numerous competition and the flooding of Chinese sellers who are allowed to hog listings to sell and ship cheaper and who are given better viewing placement. So in reality owing a store,  paying high fees for listing numerous items for any ongoing profit income to be seen in viewing placement purpose, and the fact that buyers can take advantage of returns, refunds and item not as described issues defeats its purpose - since no sale is FINAL.

 

Yes I do and many others remember there was a time when Sellers use to make $$$Thousands monthly selling on Ebay, but now any given one or a few sales monthly that ends successfully without you being ripped off, your item destroyed, borrowed or switched has become a blessing. 

 

So just because you have hundreds of items listed and no one is buying them, it has nothing to do with the fact that the economy is doing bad - it just means that Ebay or online sales are doing bad and its time to not to solely depend and find options and somewhere else.

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Holding steady at 68% down, which is exactly the % I was down for the whole month of Sep. I empathize with all the other sellers who are also feeling this. The only thing we can do is branch out to other venues as it doesn't seem Ebay is finding it a Priority to fix whatever is going on here or maybe it is so broken they are finding it impossible to fix? Who knows, but it is getting closer and closer to Christmas, where most sellers shouldn't even have the time to post on these boards, we should be packaging up our items. We definitely don't want Ebay to fail, but I think it is failing itself. It's a very sad situation for many, not all, but many. Good luck to everyone.


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For one thing it is a proven fact that the economy is doing much better under Trump due to the growing upward job statistics, consumer spending confidence, retirement funds and the surge of the Dow Jones stock market proves that. studevan -designs ------------

 

That is correct . Anyone who has been paying attention to census reports  and the top  economists  knows this . Whether we like the presidents personality  or not , whether we approve of everything  he's ever said or done  or not ,, his policies are sound and they're helping Americans  and that's really all that should matter . Tulips 

 

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This isn’t a trump thing... I would gander to say that this is ebay controlling who gets to view items and when due to things like “promoting” items, which is a terrible practice just to make more money. It also seems to be skewing search results. This is at the expense of the sellers, because they are being given fewer listings for free per month.
This would be the biggest explanation for the decrease in sales. 

 

Ebay is not doing well right now, just taking a look at the stock, they are under performing. If they continue doing stuff like this that hurts the sellers, they will continue to lose money over competitors. Just because you have a big market, doesn’t mean you know how to correctly market it.

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