@dhbookds wrote:
Isn't it natural to wonder why when the goal would be helping them?
You haven't been on these boards long enough.....lol. People care when their ox is being gored.........but only if they realize it.
Nor are most willing to do the work to "prove" anything, if they can. They will moan and groan about no sales, but getting them to change a title is a major task, much less asking them to keep records.....
Frankly, I'm totally unclear about what you want people to do.........talk, discuss, give verbal support to what you say has happened to you, but that we can't validate, except on the most general terms? If you're unable to move ebay off the dime, frankly, I doubt this group would get anywhere.......
I'm not asking anyone to prove anything. But it wouldn't be fair of me to assume if they have no sales that they haven't tried changing anything or hadn't kept records. I've had many sellers on here ask me for advice and attempt my advice, or share their records with me, so I know some definitely put in work to try to improve!
Regarding what I want people to do... well relating to the subject of this topic specifically, I just want to know if others are noticing this pattern of sales that we've had. It's not the easiest thing to check, because eBay's site doesn't list the exact time the order was initiated/paid, but for anyone who does have access (through software or anything similar) it's fairly easy to check. If we can find some sort of common denominator or similarities it will be more data collection to try to figure out what's going on. That's all I'm asking for.
Beyond that, I was asking katagg what it would take to believe me, because I'm curious of what exactly is so hard to believe. You can say people can't validate what I say, for some things that's true. But as mentioned before, I've always encouraged sellers to test things for themselves, and that could show you whether the things I say are true or not. I also put in a lot of work providing evidence, screenshots, videos, etc of problems that have been encountered, and I've been very transparent regarding it. EBay has never denied my claims, and has looked in to them, at times even confirming what I've said. And I've even shared SR#'s etc of cases where they could validate what I say.
So I don't think it's accurate to say people "can't validate" my claims. I think my record speaks for itself. How many of the things that I've suggested ended up not being true...? How many actually became more prevalent over the months following me bringing attention to them...?
With that said, back to my question for the other seller... an answer would REALLY be helpful if I could understand why some just refuse to believe these things, despite the evidence, despite correlation from many other sellers. Because it doesn't make sense. You know in your last message, you said...
"That doesn't negate your experience, but neither does yours negate ours."
It would be no problem if that were the truth on here. But it's not.
If I seen anyone else making comments like mine, but it wasn't happening to me, I would say: ""Oh, that's not happening to me, but I have no idea if it's happening to others!".
But that's not what they say to me. What do they say to my comments? They say "It's not happening to me, these things don't happen, these things aren't real, there is no problem, eBay is fine!"
That's far beyond sharing their own experience, and directly negating not only my experience, but the experience of anyone who has went through the same thing.
So again, that's why I asked that question. It's up to him if he wants to respond and has every right not to if he doesn't want to.
At the end of the day, I would still like to learn why exactly they aren't able to believe me, and furthermore why exactly they are not simply saying it's not happening to them, but insisting the problems don't exist, despite all that I've done to show legitimacy and all the others that have correlated what I say. Because I would much rather figure out how I could work together with others on here as a community, rather than have them work against me while I'm trying to improve the situation for all of us.
