01-31-2025 10:46 AM
Hello, I have been selling on Ebay since 2003 and have witnessed many buyer trends and in my selling. That is why I want to address the new Final Value Fees. Ebay has been a life line for me selling in my later life. My ancestors did not have this asset. However, we need to keep a grip on things with the new eBay policies especially the final value fees increasing when the new trend is for the younger generation and others to no longer have a desire to buy collectibles especially collectible that at one time where very expensive to buy originally. I feel these fees are actually over the top and excessive when one takes that into a fact. Also, I do enjoy the 250 free listing fees each month and other incentives iniated by eBay. However, there are so many added fees that this last year I sold at a loss or break even point on sales when we factor in the larger shipping fees for those we ship to at a distance but still want to keep competitive on our shipping cost offered to potential buyers. I feel we should be able to either adjust the shipping for mileage on an indiviual completed sale or restrict selling to those areas. If anyone has any suggestions, please respond.
Thank you, a senior citizen, Diane
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02-01-2025 10:38 AM
Thank you so much to your advise which is very much how our capitalism works. I will consider those facts now.
Kind Regards, Diane
02-01-2025 10:40 AM
Thank you so much for your insight and comments. Yes, you are right on the infrared heater. I will consider that because it has been working well for my own needs. I did sell one just like it at the beginning of the winter and all went well. I will now relist today my collectible since we have the incentive of 250 free listing fees.
Thank you much and Kind Regards, Diane
02-01-2025 10:42 AM
Thank you so much for your comments of help. I will take all into consideration.
Kind Regards, Diane
02-01-2025 10:53 AM - edited 02-01-2025 10:59 AM
@antiquesnemethdi13 wrote:I should have said not newly added but existing.
In 2010, I think I was paying 30 cents plus 12.9% of the total to eBay and PayPal, or $13.20 on a $100 transaction.
14 years later I am paying 40 cents plus 13.7% of the total to eBay, or $14.10 on a $100 transaction.
I'll continue to bite ... are these the fees you are referring to?
02-01-2025 11:15 AM
Most of your Sold items were Auctions with just a single bid.
I would suggest changing to Fixed Price Listings at the price you really want, and opt for Best Offer with a Reject/Accept option for the price you are willing to accept.
So if you would be thrilled to get $100 for a quilt, but would accept $75 and be annoyed at an Offer of $50, you can give the buyer the little thrill of haggling (an auction is just a form of haggling) and still make a profit.
You can have 250 items without listing fees and Fixed Price listings are up and visible for 30 days more than four times longer than an Auction. Theoretically that means four times more customers are likely to see it.
BTW- about collectibles that are no longer collectible. At 78, I don't recall ever seeing any Hummels in any home of my age group. My 80+ sisters had those.
Royal Doulton, Precious Moments, and those attenuated blue Spanish figures were what we of the 1945-1955 tranche collected ,
but they are not in the homes of our 40something children.
02-01-2025 11:46 AM
You talk as if these issues are unique to older sellers and it absolutely isn't, you have just chosen to call out senior sellers. You might need to "reframe" your approach to the conversation.
02-01-2025 02:12 PM
If I didn't make a decent profit ( averaged 46.5% based of my item selling price + shipping & handling fee - I used the the USPS rates at the counter price. If bottom feeding sellers drove the price down to minimal profit would no longer sell i it and replaced other product niche where there wasn't so many fishermen/women - it takes some effort to do it but hard work never hurt anybody. and I dislike watching TV 1/2 hr in morning and maybe 45 minutes in the evening.
02-04-2025 09:06 AM
ThankYou for your rebuttal. Diane
02-13-2025 10:27 PM
I started selling on eBay I guess around 1997. I had 3 different accounts going at once. I bought and sold lots of items up until about 2010 or so when I stopped selling. This past week I thought I would start selling a few items I had laying around and eBay is nothing like it use to be. It is as far from being seller friendly as I ever seen it. The way they do the "final value fee" now threw me for a loop. Say I sold a very big and heavy item that only brought $10 then add an 8% sales tax and then pretend it cost me $80 to ship this item, how much do I actually walk away with? If my math is correct, I think I now owe ebay. I do not see this next generation selling many things here. A few more years like this, it will just be overpriced Temu and Aliexpress items for sale here no one wants.
02-13-2025 11:17 PM
@insaneshanedotnet wrote:I started selling on eBay I guess around 1997. I had 3 different accounts going at once. I bought and sold lots of items up until about 2010 or so when I stopped selling. This past week I thought I would start selling a few items I had laying around and eBay is nothing like it use to be. It is as far from being seller friendly as I ever seen it. The way they do the "final value fee" now threw me for a loop. Say I sold a very big and heavy item that only brought $10 then add an 8% sales tax and then pretend it cost me $80 to ship this item, how much do I actually walk away with? If my math is correct, I think I now owe ebay. I do not see this next generation selling many things here. A few more years like this, it will just be overpriced Temu and Aliexpress items for sale here no one wants.
Then either that might not be the right thing to sell on the internet because it has to be shipped or you aren't pricing it correctly. No matter where you sell it on the internet, you will have to ship it. Shipping isn't Ebay's fault.
The way Ebay charges fees has been the same since Managed Payments went site wide in the summer of 2020.
02-13-2025 11:48 PM
raise your shipping prices. that's an increase in cost on the customer
and if the items aren't selling and generating enough money for the original poster there is no way that raising the price is going to improve this issue.
it's going to slow down sales.
Except it doesn't.
Brand name goods sell for more than generic /off-brand goods, but they still sell better than those cheaper goods.
First there is such a thing as "aspirational buying".
Most people believe that the higher the price the better the product.
Questionable, but that's how they think.
Second, consumers hate paying for shipping.
There are two ways to get around this.
We can use Free Shipping, which as explained, means putting the seller's costs for shipping into the asking price of the product.
Which is cheaper?
A $100 item with $25 shipping or a $125 item with Free Shipping?
In my experience (retail since 1979, eBay since 1998) between aspirational buying and "free", they will go for the $125.
Since bulky goods are shipped with dimensional rates + destination, it is necessary to use Calculated Shipping.
That means forgetting Free Shipping (which is a form of Flat Rate shipping) and using a program provided by eBay which, as others have explained, tells your customer exactly to the penny how much they will pay for shipping.
Now as it happens, rather than the $25 the Flat Rate seller uses this may be $12.84 for a nearby customer and $32.77 for one on the other coast.
This does not bother the customer, in part because the shipping will tend to be an odd amount. This looks more "official" and comforts the customer that they are not being overcharged. Giving the customer the pink fuzzies is never a bad thing.
Set your prices to cover all your costs, including fees and postage and Cookie Jar Insurance.
Date all your listings on your Active Listings .
When they get stale, pull them down.
Perhaps for a while, perhaps for donation, perhaps for rewriting.
And use Best Offer and even Promoted Listings.
PL brings eyeballs and you only pay at the rate you choose if it sells. And the eyeballs browse once in your Store.
02-14-2025 06:11 AM
Hello, We are also old timers but manage to make extra money selling on eBay. My advice in purchasing items is to look at completed listings. You find a lot of valuable information there. Ignore the sellers that list their items to low. We are here to make a profit not to run a hobby. If there are a lot of sales on an item and it sells for a profit quickly then it might make a good candidate to list. If the completed sales show a lot of items up but no or low sales will show you that the item might sit on a shelf or you might have to sell low. You are running a business which has a buy low and sell high to be successful. Keep your mistakes to a minimum and you should be able to come out ahead.
02-14-2025 07:48 AM
@youn2240 wrote:There's nothing wrong with that. if it's working it's working. but if you're listing 80 widgets at 15 and not getting sales when you can see 100 have sold for 10.00 there is an issue. especially if the sellers take their money from the 100 and buy another 200 that they will then list lower than your 15.00 so it can get into a scenario where other sellers are making thousands and taking away hundreds of potential customers for that widget before you break even on said widgets.
You are not describing Capitalism here. I don't know what that is ... it would require some sort of income redistribution or subsidy of some kind to maintain that 'business.'
In the real Capitalism world, everybody would go broke.
Where's the 'spread' in your model? Where's the profit?
I could hear the owners of that mess saying, "We need at least $15 each to make a buck, and we have zero sales at that number. They'll only sell at $10. Why are we busting our hump to get orders out that we lose a dollar each on? For the joy of getting yelled at because the mailman delivered a day late during a torrential storm? Lets shut this down and go fishing ... and talk about what we're going to sell here."
02-14-2025 08:57 AM
@mam98031 wrote:You talk as if these issues are unique to older sellers and it absolutely isn't, you have just chosen to call out senior sellers. You might need to "reframe" your approach to the conversation.
Let me reframe that in a way that is more accurate than @youn2240 ’s statement:
Why do resellers think their stuff is worth so much money?
I’ll preface this by still mentioning that I’m an older millennial for context because it may have an impact on my and my contemporary collectors’ habits but it very well might not be an older vs younger people as much as a reseller vs collector paradigm.
I collect old glass, vintage clothing from the 50s/60s/70s, vintage linen and my home is furnished in furniture varying from Victorian to the 60s.
But my fellow collectors and I absolutely REFUSE to pay reseller prices. We even often refuse to pay inflated Goodwill “thrift prices.”
When eBay was just coming up, collectors were happy to pay a little more to complete their collections, something that used to take a lifetime before online selling. At one point there were more collectors than resellers which created bidding wars and inflated the prices, enabling some resellers to make a living out of this.
Now the pool of potential collectors is growing smaller while more and more people try their hand at reselling and think they can get bidding war prices for everything.
Dont get me wrong, we understand the work and time involved in picking and cleaning but we’d often rather do it ourselves either a) because we believe the listed prices are way too inflated or b) we’re simply priced out with today’s cost of living (someone’s gotta pay for all that avocado toast and Starbucks).
Two of the most often heard phrases on this board: The market dictates prices and My items aren’t selling anymore! Maybe when it comes to vintage collectibles, one has a lot to do with the other.
Meanwhile, here’s my carnival glass haul from Saturday (which will go to my collection, not for resale), all acquired at church basement sales, for a under $20:
02-14-2025 09:37 AM
Thank you for your comments. Your opinion is exactly what I am seeing and feel. Ebay will price themselves out of the martlet all together in the not too long future. Sadly, Diane