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NEGATIVE FEEDBACK WAS it DESERVED?

NEGATIVE FEEDBACK

 

Item description/advertisement posted by us the seller on eBay: PHOTOS TO SUPPORT (if needed)

 

GRUEN WEST GERMAN QUARTZ TORTOISE SHELL AND BRASS ALARM DESK CLOCK

 

Pre-owned * * possible trade-in, customer return, estate sale item, inventory liquidation. Not functioning at time of listing, with known & unknown issues and is Sold As Is For Repair or Parts We make no claim. What you see, is What you get, UNLESS NOTED

 

PHYSICAL CONDITION:  EXCELLENT

 

VERY RARE ITEM AND NOT FOUND ANYWHERE(NEW OR USED), AT THIS TIME.

 

THIS IS A VERY RARE & HARD TO FIND CLOCK, IN THIS CONFIGURATION. ONLY 2 FOUND, BUT IN WHITE, NOT TORTOISE SHELL


NOT TICKING (unknown reasons) AND A KNOB TO THE TIME SET FUNCTION IS BROKEN. 

 

THE BEST DEALS, SELECTION AND SATISFACTION PER OUR CUSTOMERS 

DIMENSIONS:   Case 78mm;   Length 95mm;   Depth including base 40mm.

 

SOLD AS IS  (NO WARRANTIES EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED).  NO RETURNS 

 

THIS ADVERTISEMENT/SALE RESULTED IN THIS REVIEW

 

We ordered a clock, when we received it, it didn't work at all - tried contacting the seller but their only comment was "no returns and no refunds" - extremely unprofessional and very misrepresented - selling products that don't work and then not accepting them back.

 

Communication that led up to it.

 

New message from: BUYER

The clock does not work! Tried several new batteries but it doesn't work. - how do I receive a refund!

RESPONSE

Hello,
NO REFUND/RETURNS.
PLEASE re-read our advertisement, and you will clearly have all your questions answered. This item is SOLD AS ADVERTISED.
Respectfully,
The team 

 

ANSWER

 

New message from: BUYER

Great!

 

RESULTS – NEGATIVE FEEDBACK

 

HERE IS EBAY’S LAST RESPONSE TO US WANTING THIS FEEDBACK REMOVED, after 4 attempts with AI & 2 live conversations resulting in agent admitting “they see the problem, and most likely will get it removed”. Then escalating it to a higher agent, assuring us of positive results with-in 48 hours.

 

NOT . . Still there and this was the last response from eBay (we believe AI generated).

 

Hello Frank,

Thank you for contacting eBay customer service, this is ***** and I received a request that you need assistance regarding the item you sold to your buyer "******". I can see that you want the related feedback removed as you did your best to resolve this buyer's concern and I commend you for that.

 

First and foremost, I appreciate how you have been patient in sorting this out with the buyer. As a seller myself, I fully understand the impact of negative feedback on a seller's ability to attract buyers. Please be reminded though that your feedback rating is not included in the parameters of measuring your seller performance rating.   

 

As soon as the case was assigned to me, I immediately did a careful review of your transaction and saw that this feedback still portrays the buyer's experience.

 

For us to proceed with your feedback appeal, we recommend you send a message to your buyer today and ask more about their concern and how they would like this to be resolved. You may consider offering a partial refund or replacement as well.

 

Rest assured that offering these alternatives doesn’t mean you lost a sale but rather, you are merely acting in your capacity as a responsible seller to ensure that your customers are happy and to enable us to remove this feedbacks and attract new customers.

 

You may also consider sending them a feedback revision request. This way, instead of removing it completely, the buyer can change the feedback into a positive one and may also include their experience on how you made things right for them. While doing that, you may reply to your buyer's feedback.

 

On the side note, if your buyer's unable to change their feedback using the feedback revision form, you may simply let us see the agreement between you and the buyer on the eBay messages. As long as the buyer agrees to remove the feedback, we will definitely proceed with it.

 

Again, thank you for contacting eBay customer service.  I'm confident that I have explained what happened on the case to the best of my knowledge. Thank you for choosing eBay as your online selling platform and have a great day!

Kind Regards,

 

EBAY you’ve got to be kidding. Is this what our sales commissions paid to you get us? Is this what 24 years of loyal membership gets us?

If this negative feedback DOES NOT VIOLATE YOUR POLICY, then we (along with other members, other people,) can’t believe that lies, slander, degrading and misrepresented accusation are, and will continue to be supported by eBay customer service or its management. 

WE WELCOME EVERYONE’S COMMENTS AND OPINIONS. We also ask eBay to correct/direct/instruct us in what we did to get this feedback, but even more important what do we do to not receive something like this again.

We want to thank, in advance everyone who reads this and give their input, positive or negative, and resulting in an awareness that impacts them.

 

Respectfully,

24 year Member

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Boy, that response... To me it says "I got the sucker's money and it's their problem now"!

 

I know that getting a neg stings but that one was totally self inflicted.

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@smabrouk 

I'm not aware of a way for them to revise a comment.  Are you aware of how to do that?


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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@mam98031 wrote:

@smabrouk 

I'm not aware of a way for them to revise a comment.  Are you aware of how to do that?


Unfortunately, I am not aware of a way for sellers to revise their comments, but it was worth stating as posting such statements has consequences that the poster may regret.

 

Since a seller can request that a buyer revise feedback, there should be a mechanism via which a seller can revise comments made in reply to feedback.  It may be helpful to review what is accessible in the feedback profile for replying to feedback or contact eBay customer service to inquire about revising the comment.  If the comment cannot be revised then the seller must live with the consequences of the posted statement.  As stated by @annadryl, this is “totally self inflicted”.

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@smabrouk wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

@smabrouk 

I'm not aware of a way for them to revise a comment.  Are you aware of how to do that?


Unfortunately, I am not aware of a way for sellers to revise their comments, but it was worth stating as posting such statements has consequences that the poster may regret.

 

Since a seller can request that a buyer revise feedback, there should be a mechanism via which a seller can revise comments made in reply to feedback.  It may be helpful to review what is accessible in the feedback profile for replying to feedback or contact eBay customer service to inquire about revising the comment.  If the comment cannot be revised then the seller must live with the consequences of the posted statement.  As stated by @annadryl, this is “totally self inflicted”.


From the page you have linked:

 

You can’t change feedback you’ve left for a buyer, but you can ask a buyer to reconsider feedback they left for you.

 

That sounds pretty unambiguous.  There is no way for a seller to alter a reply to buyer feedback, and in my opinion there should not be.   

 

There is so much about selling on eBay that has nothing to do with eBay rules and regulations.  

 

The imperative that a seller treat others the way he / she (seller) would wish to be treated (the "Golden Rule") is not to be found in the eBay help pages.

 

Selling here is like any other professional endeavor.  It requires maturity, foresight and self-awareness.

eBay seller since 1999. This is a posting ID.
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