My items keep getting sighted for counterfeit Autograph items

[danap7730]

The items I am trying to sell are not verified by PSA, Beckett, JSA, Fanatics.  
Is there a way to sell them on EBay without those endorsements?  Sell them as No COA?   Just need help.   Any ideas?

Thanks

[silverstatetreasureboxes]

@danap7730 

You seem to be doing good on your own but what exactly is ebay saying about said items? Are they pulling them, please explain a bit further.

[ischam-81]

Could you please explain a bit more...

[fashunu4eeuh]

Hi, i looked over the autograph policy (see link below) but did not see anything that specifically said you can’t sell an autograph without a COA or LOA. Are you selling preprints or reproduced autographs? There are some authenticators that eBay will not allow. List is in the policy.

I do see that not all of your listings have followed the policy requirements. I suggest looking them over and adding the missing info to your listings.

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/autographed-items-policy?id=4283

[lacemaker3]

@danap7730,

As long as they were not authenticated by one of the companies/groups on the "Not allowed" list, then you should include information and pictures of the COA in your listing. They don't have to be from one of those 4 companies only.

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/autographed-items-policy?id=4283

[danap7730]

Thanks for the reply.  They keep pulling my items saying I am not following the counterfeit policy.   The items are all autograph items with COA from Inpersonauthenics or other similar companies.  

We had to remove your listing because it didn’t follow our VeRO Unauthorized Item Policy. Unauthorized copies or counterfeits are illegal and not allowed on eBay

What activity didn't follow the policy

Your listing was reported by the rights owner listed below as a counterfeit item. Please see the policy below for information about why we don?t allow counterfeit items.

[dentalsales4u]

That's a VERO take down. The rights owner of whatever item was taken down said it wasn't authentic.

You would need to contact them to see what you need to do.

[maxine*j]

I looked at the InPerson Authentication website.  I find much there that is concerning, from their approach to authentication to the terrible misuse of the English language.

Why the approach concerns me:   They say that a panel of their experts look at items and then vote and the majority rules as to authenticity.  The number of experts is not given, nor are any of them named, nor is there an explanation of just how this "panel of experts" works.

Why the use of language concerns me:   Authetication is based upon attention to the smallest details, and yet this is a website no one even bothers to proofread.  There are egregious errors in grammar, syntax, punctuation, and spelling on every page that I looked at.  Frankly, it looks like it was written by a beginning ESL student.

I would not trust any "authentication" by this outfit.  And that may be true of eBay and your potential buyers.

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[danap7730]

The Simpsons Matt Groening Signed Autographed 8x10 Canvas Easel Certified COA.

COA Authenication Direct
2343910

Full refund- I have free returns money back

Will this work for listing.  I have the photo of the COA company too.  Thanks

[donsdetour]

why don't you check with the company that owns the rights: copyright etc before listing such.

Ask us users is a waist of time.

You keep doing such and you will not BE selling on eBay. It that plain ans simple.

[maxine*j]

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@danap7730 wrote:

...  They keep pulling my items saying I am not following the counterfeit policy.   The items are all autograph items with COA from Inpersonauthenics or other similar companies...

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And that is your problem.  Anyone can throw up a website, make up some fancy COAs on a printer, and start "authenticating" and "certifying" this, that, or the other thing for a fee.  The majority of these companies are bogus.  Did you see that long list that Lacemaker posted, of companies that eBay has already said are rubbish?

I looked up some of the other campanies besides InPersonAuthentics upon which I've already commented, and you're relying on some very iffy outfits;  thus, the eBay and VeRO takedowns.

You need to rethink what you are doing, or risk being permanently suspended from selling on eBay because of repeat violations.  You are on the eBay radar now, and it is not going to get easier. 

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[pjcdn2005]

As another poster mentioned, a VERO takedown means that the rights holder of that particular card (s) is saying that card is counterfeit.  Relisting those items without the rights holder permission will likely result on your selling account being banned. Is it a specific brand or specific signature that they are removing?

There should be an email address on the notice for the rights holder.  You can ask them fir information on why they say the items are counterfeit.  Note though that once those items have been taken down, there is a chance that it will happen again even with the rights holders permission.

[maxine*j]

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@danap7730 wrote:

The Simpsons Matt Groening Signed Autographed 8x10 Canvas Easel Certified COA.

COA Authenication Direct
2343910

Full refund- I have free returns money back

Will this work for listing.  I have the photo of the COA company too.  Thanks

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Have you looked at that company's website?   Have you seen that its operations are vague and its website is just one error after another?  Do you think that an outfit that wrote this pays enough attention to detail to authenticate anything:

"For the past 10 years, we have helped Sports memorabilia businesses create their Stock and Inventory Leading to Higher profits and achieve their goals. Our process is designed to help those in the sports memorabilia Industry with Experienced Authentication Opinions needed to succeed. Talk to us today about how we can support your growth, limit your turnover, and put you on a solid track to success and profit.  Our Experienced Collectors are ready to assist you in developing a Authentic Collection that drives your business."

GOOD GRIEF!

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[mysticaldragon]

With out certification chances are high that the autographs you are selling are fakes. Even if someone swears to you that the items are real. There are a million little details you may not notice that actually show they are fakes or are consider fake by the authentication companies. Basically, the way signature authentication is done, is it's got to be a perfect match to what they have on file. And they blow up each and every part of the signature. If the celebrity had a hand cramp when they signed it, or maybe were sick or old so it was harder to use there hand that day, that signature is not going to match up as legit.

[albertabrightalberta]

@danap7730 

You have at least one feedback for which JSA deemed it fake even though you claimed there was a COA. How do you know that whatever company gives you COAs knows what they're doing? 

If you aren't positive of authenticity, you can't sell the items that have been removed. And if you relist items that were removed as counterfeit, you are risking loss of your account.

UGH! Just realized I responded to a 3 year old thread.