eBay

cumberlandgapshop · ‎11-27-2018

I’ve had plenty of competition on certain products. We work under MAP pricing, but the company allowed us to free sell through Black Friday weekend. I’ve had a few quilts for about six months and they are definitely popular items. I set mine lower than anyone’s price so I could get these moved and pay off my debt. Sadly, for myself and especially for buyers that they are being tricked! When you set lowest price, it does not mean it is lowest price. I was told by a rep that it does NOT matter because ANCHOR STORES go first regardless. This seems fraudulent for the buyers. If I were not privy to how eBay works, I would believe and “trust” that I am looking at the lowest price so why scroll down. Granted Anchor stores deserve to sell more since they pay more, BUT WHY DO THIS TO BUYERS? I have numerous screenshots that show how this really goes. Any suggestions or feedback? I am going to refuse promoted listings as they do NOT promote my listings! A few of my products did NOT show at all!

cumberlandgapshop · ‎11-28-2018

That makes plenty of sense!! Since they appear to have significantly diminished foot traffic, I guess they get these sellers to buy into the Anchor stores to make up for their losses. Who knows, but to me I would be sooo hot to think I trusted them for a year or two and find out they paid top dollar and possibly poor service since they remove the majority of feedback for the Anchor stores. I truly thought the past two years that they had changed and improved everything from what it was some years ago. I walked away well over a year or two and if they do not want to fix all of this damage they’ve done to me over the past 7 out of 12 months, then I’m gone very soon.

They are playing some very dangerous cards right now. Buyers COULD sue them for fraud in my opinion. As buyers figure this out they too are going to be livid and while they can’t use proof there, they will have proof when they go to search for similar items and prove their case.

I will say it again: IF they do not want to honor their buyers by putting lowest prices first, then remove the option.

I saw where someone wrote they find their items when looking. They MIRROR listings. I could probably look up everyone on here and it will be mirrored. I learned that one a long time ago. I do it with my private computer. It is the computer I used for the attorney who retired in August. It is set up with very serious private software since we signed into governmental agencies for cases. All of the client files and records have been deleted now and he gave me the computer. I have no desire to sign into eBay on it.

cumberlandgapshop · ‎11-28-2018

I couldn’t agree more with you. When I first started selling that brand I asked eBay what the rules were because to me it was search and browse manipulation, but it’s true. Also the company that distributes these demand each product is not bundled, meaning a quilt, bed skirt, two shams. We are not allowed. We have to sell them separately. With that being said, I still agree with you. IT should NOT be allowed, but in order to stay in the clutches of selling the products I’m following protocol.

cumberlandgapshop · ‎11-28-2018

It’s MAP pricing. I mentioned that in my first post. We are under MAP and this past weekend we were allowed by the distrubtor to charge whatever we wanted. I dropped my prices as low as I could, but I was buried (clearly).

zamo-zuan · ‎11-28-2018

@coolections wrote:
@zamo-zuan
Your situation is completely different because it is so oversaturated there is no way EBay is going to show 550 motor mounts in the order you wish. It goes by pages and buyers are not going to search more than one page of the same item. You would need to lower your prices enough to actually be the lowest to land on the first page in that specific search mode. Why would a buyer searching lowest first with shipping want to see more than one page of the same item.

lol, I could always count on you to claim that it's "saturation and competition", but market saturation has absolutely nothing to do with a search when sorting by PRICE. We are on the first page of search (at least when the correct items are showing, and not items that do not match the search query).

You have personally said to me that when searching by price, items "ALWAYS SHOW UP". This is evidence showing that our item is NOT showing up in the correct place when sorted by price.

This is a case where you can not deny the truth. It is an undeniable FACT that when sorting by price, your item should be showing up between the item that is lower price, and higher priced than yours.

That is NOT how eBay search is functioning.

Furthermore, you have personally argued with me saying that items "always" appear in search. In this case, you can look at the top left of the screen, and see that eBay's results do NOT match the actual number of listings.

Sorry Cool. Your claims in this case do not match reality.

To counteract your last question at the end of your message... I ask you "Why would someone searching by price want to see any item other than the CHEAPEST items on eBay?".

As shown in my screenshots, eBay is NOT showing buyers the cheapest price!

Final comments regarding your statements: 80 search results (when nearly half of them are do not even match the search query) is NOT an oversaturated market. A conservative measure is maybe 40 of the same item, and if you didn't notice, one of the users is title-spamming the same item over and over.

Which, by the way, shoots down your theory. It's showing pages of duplicate items from a single seller. So obviously eBay does not care if buyers see pages full of the same item.

Why are you trying to mislead other users on this forum?

coolections · ‎11-28-2018

@zamo-zuan

OK, I checked 2007 Silverado motor mount lowest first. Yours is on PAGE 4 and there are 160 items LOWER then yours. Sorry to say but YOURS IS THERE. I normally would NEVER search that far but needed to prove to you it DOES SHOW UP LOWEST FIRST AND EBAY IS NOT HIDING YOUR ITEMS. It needed to be check to stop rumours here on the boards. Lower your prices if you want to compete with 3,338 other motor mount sellers.

zamo-zuan · ‎11-29-2018

@coolections wrote:
@zamo-zuan
OK, I checked 2007 Silverado motor mount lowest first. Yours is on PAGE 4 and there are 160 items LOWER then yours. Sorry to say but YOURS IS THERE. I normally would NEVER search that far but needed to prove to you it DOES SHOW UP LOWEST FIRST AND EBAY IS NOT HIDING YOUR ITEMS. It needed to be check to stop rumours here on the boards. Lower your prices if you want to compete with 3,338 other motor mount sellers.

Like I said before posting the pictures, some people would still argue that there's no problem.

It's the same old pattern with your responses, ignoring what's in front of you and feigning ignorance, even though the topic you replied to me on shows that you read what I said.

Are you ignoring everything described alongside the screenshots? Did you somehow miss the part where I mentioned "This is why I've said many times, how when people on the forum here say "I'm searching your items they are showing up fine!" it does not mean anything! The issues are intermittent!".

Did you somehow miss the part where one screenshot of the same exact search SHOWED the item, and the other one DID NOT show the item?

All your response does is confirm that A) the issues are indeed still intermittent, and B) you are intentionally ignoring facts placed in front of you, and feigning ignorance.

Again, I'm not sure why you are trying to mislead readers. You searched through our inventory to find an item that's not on the first page trying to pretend this is a PRICING issue? What does that prove? When my screenshots clearly showed that our item was NOT showing up between the item that was more expensive and less expensive than ours.

If you are going to disagree, how about explaining why our item that was $33.10 was not showing up when sorted by price between the item that was $32.62 and $33.20?

What about the other seller who was selling for $32.97 and also did not show up in the earlier screenshots???

I would appreciate it if you were actually CONSTRUCTIVE in your comments, rather than attempting to mislead readers in to believing things that aren't true.

cumberlandgapshop · ‎11-29-2018

I figured out a way to black out the names and upload a couple of my screenshots and it will not let me!! I’m not going to keep beating this dead horse as long as it makes no sense. I just plan on getting the hell(O) out soon. I will not let the fraudulent behavior rest though. I do want to defend buyers against this fraudulent settings. EBAY REMOVE THAT CHOICE.

femmefan1946 · ‎11-29-2018

@terrycanarsky

eBay Search often has "Results matching fewer words" --- which nearly always contain titles which are considerably longer, making the claim of "fewer words" farcical.

Well actually.

What happens there is that those loooooooong titles include some of the words you are searching.

So if you Search " DVD farcical Hot Fuzz british Simon Pegg" and it doesn't find all those words, Search may give you "Book Thud! Terry Pratchett farcical UK edition signed."

Which is a completely different thing, obviously, but did find the "fewer words". In this case, farcical.

Both of those are titles I made up, btw. Although both Hot Fuzz and Thud! exist and are very funny.