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Keep Buyers with ZERO Feedback From Buying ??

I am sure I am not the first person to ask this, but is there some way of prohibiting or limiting buyers with "0" ZERO feedback from bidding on items. It's seriously getting ridiculous, 9/10 of the never pay, they don't give a **bleep** about an unpaid item strike, they don't respond to messages. It's an absolute pain in the ass and it wastes my time and money, cause someone else bid on the item and lost and I have to repay to relist the item. Is there anything in the system we can do that when someone with zero tries to bid it does not let them or something ??? HELP

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NO. Did you not start out with a 0 score too? Did not someone give you a chance?Are you reporting the issues as you should to stop this behavior?

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The only thing you can do is open a unpaid item dispute and make sure your blocks are set to prohibit those with 2 or more previous strikes from bidding on your items.

 

I usually don't have problems with guests or low feedback buyers when it comes to paying. I did open up 2 UPIs this last week after accepting offers from both when they didn't pay - but both then did pay for the items. One thing we have to remember is that newer buyers often don't know the rules or have the urgency to complete a transaction. Gone are the old days when bidders sat at their computers waiting for auctions to end so they could immediately pay. The problem I have these days is low feedback buyers immediately leaving less than positive feed back or opening returns without contacting me to solve the issue - if there is one. Usually they just open a false SNAD so they can return the item on my dime.

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We were hoping we could have done same. Most of the time we have between 5-10 customer who are on the "awaiting payment" status. It is very annoying. Many of them have 0 feedback, and the rest are less then 10.

On one hand, these cases are annoying. On the other hand, we do get sales from customers with 0 feedback. So blocking 0 does have a cost of loss in good sales.

To your question - you could not block buyers with 0 feedback. Only negative feedback (something that I don't think is relevant anymore)
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HUH?????  I LOVE to see zero feedback buyers purchasing my stuff.  This usually means that the buyer thought so much of my stuff that they actually joined eBay just so they could purchase from me.... What a nice complement.  eBay spends very little on advertising to gain new buyers, so when I see a new buyer to eBay, I welcome them with open arms.

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This is becoming an epidemic, at one time you would sell on an auction and your response would be wow that's sold. Now your response is will the buyer pay. It shouldn't be that way, but it is and I don't need anyone to ask if I did everything because I've been on Ebay to long to know and been through more this year then all of the time I've been here. Ebay can try to do something but with phones being used to shop, it probably is close to impossible. After I get done with the auctions that are up there will be no more on my listing. It's Buy It NOW!

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@jeannicho22 wrote:

HUH?????  I LOVE to see zero feedback buyers purchasing my stuff.  This usually means that the buyer thought so much of my stuff that they actually joined eBay just so they could purchase from me.... What a nice complement.  eBay spends very little on advertising to gain new buyers, so when I see a new buyer to eBay, I welcome them with open arms.


I also like them buying my stuff. But it only works if they actually PAY for the item. Many of these 0 feedback buyer will commit to buy an item (add to cart) but will not actually pay for the item. That means the item is sitting a few days out of stock until the case is opened and closed.

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@toyshnip wrote:

@jeannicho22 wrote:

HUH?????  I LOVE to see zero feedback buyers purchasing my stuff.  This usually means that the buyer thought so much of my stuff that they actually joined eBay just so they could purchase from me.... What a nice complement.  eBay spends very little on advertising to gain new buyers, so when I see a new buyer to eBay, I welcome them with open arms.


I also like them buying my stuff. But it only works if they actually PAY for the item. Many of these 0 feedback buyer will commit to buy an item (add to cart) but will not actually pay for the item. That means the item is sitting a few days out of stock until the case is opened and closed.


Adding the item to the cart does not prevent other buyers from purchasing the item.  Only when they hit commit to purchase (or win an auction) is the item taken off the sales floor if the buyer doesn't pay.  If you have a lot of BIN items that go unpaid, you can always set "Immediate Payment Required" which means that the item isn't off the market if the buyer doesn't pay immediately.  Unfortunately there is no such option for auction listings.  

 

I rarely use the auctions that are available with my store subscription.  One day I got a wild hair and decided to list about 18 per day to use them up.  My experience wasn't a good one and I won't be trying that experiment again.  I faithfully listed my 18 per day for two months, I though it was pretty time consuming.  Of the less than 10% of the items that actually sold, only about 10% of the buyers paid, or about 1% of the actual listings... Holy Cow, what a disaster and a waste of time.  Never again.

 

To the OP, perhaps dropping auctions would be a wise decision for you as well.

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@jeannicho22 wrote:

@toyshnip wrote:

@jeannicho22 wrote:

HUH?????  I LOVE to see zero feedback buyers purchasing my stuff.  This usually means that the buyer thought so much of my stuff that they actually joined eBay just so they could purchase from me.... What a nice complement.  eBay spends very little on advertising to gain new buyers, so when I see a new buyer to eBay, I welcome them with open arms.


I also like them buying my stuff. But it only works if they actually PAY for the item. Many of these 0 feedback buyer will commit to buy an item (add to cart) but will not actually pay for the item. That means the item is sitting a few days out of stock until the case is opened and closed.


Adding the item to the cart does not prevent other buyers from purchasing the item.  Only when they hit commit to purchase (or win an auction) is the item taken off the sales floor if the buyer doesn't pay.  If you have a lot of BIN items that go unpaid, you can always set "Immediate Payment Required" which means that the item isn't off the market if the buyer doesn't pay immediately.  Unfortunately there is no such option for auction listings.  

 

I rarely use the auctions that are available with my store subscription.  One day I got a wild hair and decided to list about 18 per day to use them up.  My experience wasn't a good one and I won't be trying that experiment again.  I faithfully listed my 18 per day for two months, I though it was pretty time consuming.  Of the less than 10% of the items that actually sold, only about 10% of the buyers paid, or about 1% of the actual listings... Holy Cow, what a disaster and a waste of time.  Never again.

 

To the OP, perhaps dropping auctions would be a wise decision for you as well.


They do commit to buy, so the inventory goes down by 1 (and of course items that we only have 1, it is now at 0 and others can't buy). 

 

Yes. we can do  "Immediate Payment Required".  But that can lead to 2 issues:

1. It will be an issue to combine shipments. Many buyers want to purchase a few items and then we send them an invoice with an updated shipped rate. Immediate payments means that they can pay at once, but will have to rely on e-bays calculations for combined shipping which is often wrong.
2. The newbie buyers who don't know how e-bay works. They don't realize they are committing to buy. So now, it will charge their paypal. That will increase returns, negative feedbacks, and them calling ebay trying to cancel the order.

 

We don't do any auctions, just buy it now.

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Just a few points I'd like to make:

Non-payers or pain in the butt buyers are not limited to those with 0 or low feedback.

If eBay, from its very beginning, had said that no 0 FB buyers could bid or buy, where would eBay be now? 

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@toyshnip wrote:

@jeannicho22 wrote:

@toyshnip wrote:

@jeannicho22 wrote:

HUH?????  I LOVE to see zero feedback buyers purchasing my stuff.  This usually means that the buyer thought so much of my stuff that they actually joined eBay just so they could purchase from me.... What a nice complement.  eBay spends very little on advertising to gain new buyers, so when I see a new buyer to eBay, I welcome them with open arms.


I also like them buying my stuff. But it only works if they actually PAY for the item. Many of these 0 feedback buyer will commit to buy an item (add to cart) but will not actually pay for the item. That means the item is sitting a few days out of stock until the case is opened and closed.


Adding the item to the cart does not prevent other buyers from purchasing the item.  Only when they hit commit to purchase (or win an auction) is the item taken off the sales floor if the buyer doesn't pay.  If you have a lot of BIN items that go unpaid, you can always set "Immediate Payment Required" which means that the item isn't off the market if the buyer doesn't pay immediately.  Unfortunately there is no such option for auction listings.  

 

I rarely use the auctions that are available with my store subscription.  One day I got a wild hair and decided to list about 18 per day to use them up.  My experience wasn't a good one and I won't be trying that experiment again.  I faithfully listed my 18 per day for two months, I though it was pretty time consuming.  Of the less than 10% of the items that actually sold, only about 10% of the buyers paid, or about 1% of the actual listings... Holy Cow, what a disaster and a waste of time.  Never again.

 

To the OP, perhaps dropping auctions would be a wise decision for you as well.


They do commit to buy, so the inventory goes down by 1 (and of course items that we only have 1, it is now at 0 and others can't buy). 

 

Yes. we can do  "Immediate Payment Required".  But that can lead to 2 issues:

1. It will be an issue to combine shipments. Many buyers want to purchase a few items and then we send them an invoice with an updated shipped rate. Immediate payments means that they can pay at once, but will have to rely on e-bays calculations for combined shipping which is often wrong.
2. The newbie buyers who don't know how e-bay works. They don't realize they are committing to buy. So now, it will charge their paypal. That will increase returns, negative feedbacks, and them calling ebay trying to cancel the order.

 

We don't do any auctions, just buy it now.


Ah.... just putting it in their cart isn't a commit to purchase.  I've had things in my cart for over a year now and the seller has no idea it's there.

 

I have to tell you that I'm not a fan of IPR.  IMHO when you use it, you are inviting buyers to exit your store after every transaction.  Imagine that in RL where you have to purchase and pay for each item prior to buying another.  I was just offering it as an alternative for people who it bugs the bejeezus out of to have buyers not pay and have to open an UPI case on.

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@jeannicho22 wrote:

@toyshnip wrote:

@jeannicho22 wrote:

@toyshnip wrote:

@jeannicho22 wrote:

HUH?????  I LOVE to see zero feedback buyers purchasing my stuff.  This usually means that the buyer thought so much of my stuff that they actually joined eBay just so they could purchase from me.... What a nice complement.  eBay spends very little on advertising to gain new buyers, so when I see a new buyer to eBay, I welcome them with open arms.


I also like them buying my stuff. But it only works if they actually PAY for the item. Many of these 0 feedback buyer will commit to buy an item (add to cart) but will not actually pay for the item. That means the item is sitting a few days out of stock until the case is opened and closed.


Adding the item to the cart does not prevent other buyers from purchasing the item.  Only when they hit commit to purchase (or win an auction) is the item taken off the sales floor if the buyer doesn't pay.  If you have a lot of BIN items that go unpaid, you can always set "Immediate Payment Required" which means that the item isn't off the market if the buyer doesn't pay immediately.  Unfortunately there is no such option for auction listings.  

 

I rarely use the auctions that are available with my store subscription.  One day I got a wild hair and decided to list about 18 per day to use them up.  My experience wasn't a good one and I won't be trying that experiment again.  I faithfully listed my 18 per day for two months, I though it was pretty time consuming.  Of the less than 10% of the items that actually sold, only about 10% of the buyers paid, or about 1% of the actual listings... Holy Cow, what a disaster and a waste of time.  Never again.

 

To the OP, perhaps dropping auctions would be a wise decision for you as well.


They do commit to buy, so the inventory goes down by 1 (and of course items that we only have 1, it is now at 0 and others can't buy). 

 

Yes. we can do  "Immediate Payment Required".  But that can lead to 2 issues:

1. It will be an issue to combine shipments. Many buyers want to purchase a few items and then we send them an invoice with an updated shipped rate. Immediate payments means that they can pay at once, but will have to rely on e-bays calculations for combined shipping which is often wrong.
2. The newbie buyers who don't know how e-bay works. They don't realize they are committing to buy. So now, it will charge their paypal. That will increase returns, negative feedbacks, and them calling ebay trying to cancel the order.

 

We don't do any auctions, just buy it now.


Ah.... just putting it in their cart isn't a commit to purchase.  I've had things in my cart for over a year now and the seller has no idea it's there.

 

I have to tell you that I'm not a fan of IPR.  IMHO when you use it, you are inviting buyers to exit your store after every transaction.  Imagine that in RL where you have to purchase and pay for each item prior to buying another.  I was just offering it as an alternative for people who it bugs the bejeezus out of to have buyers not pay and have to open an UPI case on.


I know it is not just adding to the cart, but actually committing to buy. For some reason, many buyers don't realize that they clicked on "Buy it Now". Could it be they are using a mobile phone and that confuses things?
Anyway, doesn't really matter. The point is that I now have 9 buyers in my "orders awaiting payment" section. All of them got invoices, 2 of them already have a case opened against them. 

We did block any buyer who has to unpaid cases against them in the last 6 months. But that doesn't stop new ebay users who don't have a history. They create an account (or guest account), buy an item and then don't pay. Invoice is sent, case is opened, case is closed, we get final value. It is very annoying and gives us a headache with bookkeeping.

 

It is like someone going into a supermarket, filling a cart with items and just leaving the store. Other buyers can't buy those items as they are off the shelf. The store workers need to figure out if it is a buyer that just went to the bathroom or a different isle, or a customer that abandon the cart. 

 

We sell many items, and many related items. More experienced buyers know that if they ask, we will give them a better price for combined shipping. This is more common with international customers. So we want to give flexability for buyers to order a few items together. IPR kills that.

 

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@toyshnip wrote:

So we want to give flexability for buyers to order a few items together. IPR kills that.

 


I totally get it.  Most of my buyers purchase more than one item, and I simply cannot imagine inviting them to leave after every purchase.  Additionally I ship exactly as paid and encourage buyers to use the cart and pay for all their items to get discounts and combined shipping, obviously IPR is not the way to go for my items.  I sell repeatables and couldn't really care less if one of my "100" quantity is not available for 8 days.  Yes, I'm so concerned that I just turn the unpaid item assistant on.... set and forget it.

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My last non payer had 2271 feedback. Maybe we should block all buyers with less than 2272 feedback?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello everyone,

 

This thread is getting a bit heated.  Please remember that it’s fine to disagree with others, but discussion should always remain courteous and respectful.

 

Thank you for your cooperation.

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