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byrd69er · ‎02-09-2018

Blocks in full force.

castlemagicmemories · ‎02-10-2018

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@*eponymous* wrote:

You dont know shipping address until payment so that block is also costing you sales..

The object is to sell, not block.
If the address thing effectively blocks those using reshippers or forwarders, I'm all for it.

The object is to sell SAFELY.

Touche.

godzilla_goose · ‎02-10-2018

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Buyers do not need a paypal account. Why drive away business with an outdated buyer requirement!

The buyers with 0% didn't pay the other sellers, and it's pointless to block usernames when we can all make as many accounts as we want. Look how many sales you missed out on. How many of those are the same user? 😦

edit: You dont know shipping address until payment so that block is also costing you sales...the only proactive measure is immediate payment. The object is to sell, not block.

For Auction format sellers the fall out and extra work created by the buyer's who do not pay is tremendous. They are like the in-laws new puppy who is brought along with them uninvited to my house, takes a sh*! on my carpet and then goes home a the end of the day. So from the OP's point of view and position I agree with castlemagicmemories. "Not all sales are worth having."

@go-bad-chicken

I'm giving you a kudo just for making me have a really good belly laugh. Merci beacoup, go-bad-chicken.

Godzilla_Goose

lightlily_arts · ‎02-10-2018

Actually buyers do need a Paypal account in order to make a purchase if the seller is only able accept payments through Paypal. So what is the point of allowing someone who doesn't have a Paypal account to bid on your items if they can't pay you. In addition, if you run auction format listings you cannot require immediate payment, and therefore, avoiding buyers who don't pay is helpful since we do not know their payment history and all buyers have 100% feedback. If you don't sell internationally blocking buyers with a Non US address is needed. If these people try to bid or buy on your items they are blocked. eBay made these blocks available to sellers through their site preferences and are implemented to reduce risk. Do you miss potential sales, of course, but these blocks can also help you avoid dealing with potential problem buyers too. I had one buyer recently who attempted to bid on my auction item four times and was blocked each time. These bidding attempts were all on different days so I wonder why they thought they could bid after being blocked the first time. Their feedback score was 1958 so that tells me that other sellers are filing their UPI's and I thank them. A user with 0% feedback score that is blocked because they had too many unpaid items is not a buyer I want. From my perspective the goal is to sell and get paid. The blocks are not "outdated" as they reflect the buyers history only in the past twelve months.

pjcdn2005 · ‎02-11-2018

A buyer without a PayPal account can still pay with a credit card through PP unless you block buyers without a PP account. Some buyers may not want to link their account with a particular PP account so if their accounts are not linked then they will also be blocked even though they do have PP.

Some say that requiring a PP account keeps some bad buyers away. I don’t understand the concept that it is more likely that a bad buyer won’t have a PP account. I’ve never seen proof of that.

i do think that it is important to block buyers if you don’t ship to their country. If they have a US address to ship to they can still make a the purchase by using the US address as their primary address.

pjcdn2005 · ‎02-11-2018

wrote:
@*eponymous* wrote:

You dont know shipping address until payment so that block is also costing you sales..

The object is to sell, not block.
If the address thing effectively blocks those using reshippers or forwarders, I'm all for it.

The object is to sell SAFELY.

It is important to block those who want shipping to countries that you don’t ship to but buyers using reshippers or forwarders DO have a US address so that block doesn’t stop them. I’m not sure what that would have to do with selling “safely” anyway. International does not equal unsafe.

lightlily_arts · ‎02-11-2018

Clearly there was a lot of interest in your antique vacuum tubes. Those blocks demonstrate the number of people that might not have paid you at the end of your auction. Just hope that 0 feedback bidder who won the auction pays you too. I sold a very expensive antique item the other day by best offer. While contemplating their offer I checked their feedback profile to see what kind of purchases they made previously. It can be a bit difficult and tedious but not impossible. You look at the sellers that left feedback for your buyer and then go see what they sell. You can go to the sellers completed items to get an idea of what your buyer may have purchased, It's easier if it was an auction item as you can find out which one by the feedback score. I felt more relaxed after my buyer paid me because I was able to google their address and found it was a luxury residential home valued at 2.5 million. Nonetheless, I'm no dummy and I wait at least 30 days before I withdraw any money from a high end sale in the event of a possible return.

lightlily_arts · ‎02-11-2018

I don't care if an international buyer uses a freight forwarder to purchase. I just don't ship internationally. If these buyers want to do a return I'm only responsible for paying the return shipping to the address they used in the sale. So these buyers need to be careful when they purchase and ship through freight forwarding. For the same reason international sellers need to be careful selling here because returns can be very expensive. That's the reason they fight us tooth and nail to avoid a return and it's generally cheaper just to refund. I buy a sweater that was $18 but is costs twice as much to return with trackable shipping.

byrd69er · ‎02-11-2018

I have no problem with a buyer who has zero feedback. Everyone starts at zero. But....zero feedback with the UPI block triggered?. Absolutley not. I have no interest in selling to that buyer.

the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth · ‎02-12-2018

And if you have your blocks correctly set you don't have to sell to that buyer.

thallidguy · ‎02-12-2018

It sounds like you were mystified by that. Why? Buyer hasn't accumulated any feedback ratings. If he didn't pay for his auctions, he sure wouldn't be getting positive feedback from sellers.