Is this a free country or not? I can't sell something that I own?? VeRO Infringement?????

[davids_store_of_dreams]

This is what eBay sent me. "Your listing was removed: VeRO Infringement Policy

We had to remove your listing because it didn’t follow our VeRO Infringement Policy. Violating the intellectual property rights of a rights owner is not allowed."

So I e-mail the company and they answer me saying that my listing is a violation of Intellectual Properties Law.  And That's all they say!

This seems so unconstitutional to me!  This was an old Direct TV receiver.  I listed it as used and they say I broke some law??  If we go by what eBay says is a violation, then anything that has Intellectual property or Copyrights or Trademarks is illegal to resell! 

Does anyone know if I can do anything about this?  

[tdumonde2014]

Does one actually own these receivers? I see you have more DirecTV receivers listed, I'd pull them before they suspend you.

[johnrj1226]

@davids_store_of_dreams 

You might want to read this - sounds like the real owner report the infringement to eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-policies/selling-policies/vero-policy?id=4349&st=12&pos=1...

[dk0]

I don't believe Direct TV ever sells those receivers, only rents them and they must be returned when replaced or when terminating service.

That being the case, yours would technically have been stolen at some point.  So, I would follow the advice given and take all those listings down, because eBay is pretty quick to permanently suspend seller accounts for VERO, based on what I've seen on these discussion boards.

[gracieallen01]

Yes, it is a free country - IF one works and lives within the bounds of the laws that govern it and the rules of engagement that allow others to be free, as well. 

Sort of like the old joke about the man who comes to the US from an oppressed European country.  Walking down the street in New York, breathing the free air, no restrictions on where he can go, he walks up to a police man in uniform and punches him in the nose.  All of a sudden he is on the ground, being handcuffed and read his right. The man looks at the policeman and says that he thought this was the land of the free.  The policeman says, 'Yes, this is the land of the free, but your freedom ends where my nose begins'.

[luckythewinner]

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This seems so unconstitutional to me!

eBay owns the site and can stop you from listing anything they want - it's in the user agreement you accepted. 

if we go by what eBay says is a violation

eBay did not say this was a violation; Direct TV did.

eBay set up the VERO program to conform with the "safe harbor" provision of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 2008. If an intellectual property owner objects, they remove the listing and it is up to you to hash it out with Direct TV. 

anything that has Intellectual property or Copyrights or Trademarks is illegal to resell

What you stated is simply not true. It was not removed because it is intellectual property, it was pulled because Direct TV is claiming you violated their intellctual property rights. There is an ocean of difference between the two.

Direct TV is a service - are you sure that you are not selling something that you do not actually own? Most residential Direct TV receivers are leased, not owned. 

What model was it? For instance from what I can gather, any H24, HR24, H25, H44, HR44, HR54 and Genie receivers are leased and must be returned to Direct TV. 

[onlinecentral]

https://www.directv.com/content/dam/dtv/directv_marketing/agreements_and_policies/customer_agreement...

Customer Agreement 1.
(k) Transfer of Receiving Equipment. Leased Receiving Equipment may not be transferred.

Therefore, you are selling stolen property.

[earlyant-77]

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@dk0 wrote:

I don't believe Direct TV ever sells those receivers, only rents them and they must be returned when replaced or when terminating service.

That being the case, yours would technically have been stolen at some point.  So, I would follow the advice given and take all those listings down, because eBay is pretty quick to permanently suspend seller accounts for VERO, based on what I've seen on these discussion boards.

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That's correct. No matter how old they are, once you terminate their service, they send you a box to ship back the receiver(s). You don't own them - DirectTV does.

[floridainjection]

You are attempting to sell stolen property. Stop it. Box up all of them and ship them back to the owner. Today.

[evry1nositswindy]

You are on Direct TV's radar now.  Returnn them before they come get them.

[johnrj1226]

@davids_store_of_dreams 

You may have ................................

[davids_store_of_dreams]

DirectTV got back with me and told me that I can sell the receivers.  Thanks for your help.  

[davids_store_of_dreams]

Well thanks for your help.  DirectTV got back with me and gave me permission to sell them.  I actually bought them.  

[davids_store_of_dreams]

Well thanks for your help.  DirectTV got back with me and gave me permission to sell them.  I actually bought them.   

[davids_store_of_dreams]

Well thanks for your help.  You actually gave me great advice!  Everyone else wanted to insult me.  DirectTV got back with me and gave me permission to sell them.  I actually bought them.  Thanks