eBay

natoman777 · ‎05-09-2022

I am definitely not happy about new changes on eBay as far as the selling tools go. That is something that needs to be addressed. But if I was done with eBay, why would I waste anymore time with it? Just a thought as I continue to see posts like "I'm done withe eBay!" or "eBay is sinking! Get off the ship while you can!" Everyone has to go out guns blazing. There are other selling platforms out there. We utilize a few, and do what works best for us. If any of the platforms don't work for us (Posh for instance), we just move on.

mam98031 · ‎05-10-2022

While Ebay may not work for everyone, there are still a whole lot of sellers, millions of them, that Ebay works fine for. As in any job I have ever had in my life, it certainly isn't perfect or without issues. But overall I still make money here as millions do as well. So it is a worthwhile place to sell for many.

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southern*sweet*tea · ‎05-09-2022

I've moved on from Etsy, Bonanza (do they still exist?), Mercari and Amazon. Do I hang around their forums griping, complaining and trying to get others to quit too?

No, I just closed up shop and left. They didn't work out for me so I moved on. No need to waste my time hanging around a forum of a place I don't like to use. I have far more positive things to do. Negativity begets negativity, and I don't allow negativity in my life if I can at all help it.

Some people are always miserable and they're not "happy" unless they are making other people miserable too. I think that's a big part of it - seems there are lots of miserable people around these days and they feel they owe it to the rest of us to make us miserable too.

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.

We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did. - Thomas Sowell

blingfling123 · ‎05-09-2022

Heck people post pictures of their food, post when they are going to the dentist, announce every single little thing they are doing/going to do on multiple social media sites.

Flouncing is now considered acceptable behavior.

One does not just leave; one must tell the world they are leaving and why.

johnrj1226 · ‎05-09-2022

And old adage I my Mom always reminded me of back in the early 50s - "Misery Loves Company"

On Lou Rawls 1981 album tiled In "The Midnight Hour" was a song titled "Upside Down". Woke up to that every morning day instead of my wind up Westclock alarm clock. Made several cassettes and hooked it up to my boom box and alarm clock radio. Waking up looking for sun shine is way better than hanging you head staring at your shoe shine - even on rainy, snowy days. or PMA is better than PMS (aka Pretty Mean Secretary)..

"I have the right to remain silent but I didn't have the ability." Ron White, Fritch, Texas
"Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution." A. Einstein
"The Devil made me do it!" - Flip Wilson
"If the band can only play loud - they ain't no good - peps too!" J.R. Johnson

iart · ‎05-09-2022

I think of it as spreading good news.

Other sellers leaving means less competition.

natoman777 · ‎05-09-2022

What else I have noticed is that most who say they are leaving have only 5 to 10 items listed if any at all. Many times the items they have are so niche that it's no wonder they aren't having sales

pburn · ‎05-09-2022

@iart wrote:
I think of it as spreading good news.

😂

isaiah53-57 · ‎05-09-2022

@southern*sweet*tea wrote:
I've moved on from Etsy, Bonanza (do they still exist?), Mercari and Amazon. Do I hang around their forums griping, complaining and trying to get others to quit too?

No, I just closed up shop and left. They didn't work out for me so I moved on. No need to waste my time hanging around a forum of a place I don't like to use. I have far more positive things to do. Negativity begets negativity, and I don't allow negativity in my life if I can at all help it.

Some people are always miserable and they're not "happy" unless they are making other people miserable too. I think that's a big part of it - seems there are lots of miserable people around these days and they feel they owe it to the rest of us to make us miserable too.

Wow - Im perplexed as to how someone who claims to be above negativity could post such a passive-aggressive response to the original post.

In response, I have a question:

When dealing with a publicly-owned entity, how else can you attempt to AFFECT CHANGE for the better without airing your disgust and displeasure over disproportional, inequitable and encroaching changes that are CONSTANTLY being updated to deeper levels of exploitation and indignity?

These same people you disparage have had successes with this site and can see it's potential under the right circumstances, policies and leadership - Why wouldn't they want to offer their thoughts and feelings of loss and maltreatment, however emotion-based they are?

I believe online sales venues have long passed a reasonable level of profit take (not even including benefits and functions that have been taken away along the way) - This elicits negativity on all levels - could it be the demise of such companies? - sure - and it very likely will be if user-injurious changes continue at high levels.

Can a venue on this path be saved? - sure - If changes being made begin to offer some semblance of gratitude and equity for the users - And what is the main way change can be affected for a dependent group? By making known their displeasure over poor policy...

maxine*j · ‎05-09-2022

"If you think eBay is going to fail, why not just move on?"

Because a great many people derive more emotional satisfaction from having problems than from solving them.

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soh.maryl · ‎05-09-2022

Ever resist the urge to say something like: "No need to announce your imminent departure. This isn't the airport"?

maxine*j · ‎05-09-2022

@iart wrote:
I think of it as spreading good news.

Other sellers leaving means less competition.

And not just fewer sellers, but fewer of the ones who do nothing at all to enhance eBay's reputation

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reallynicestamps · ‎05-09-2022

These same people you disparage have had successes with this site

I'm not sure you are right.

It may be true of some departing members, but so many reveal in their rants that they have misunderstood almost everything about online selling, or about retail in general, that I find it difficult to think they have had any success.

Two recent developments seem to show that.

The posts about how the recent change in the IRS paperwork (getting a 1099 form after $600 rather than $20K) reveal first that many sellers do not understand the difference between payments and profits, and that many have not been reporting those profits on their tax forms.

And the switch to Managed Payments, which not only show that many sellers had no idea of what fees they had been paying, but also just what information they had given to Paypal to allow their payments to be processed.

isaiah53-57 · ‎05-09-2022

@reallynicestamps wrote:
These same people you disparage have had successes with this site
I'm not sure you are right.
It may be true of some departing members, but so many reveal in their rants that they have misunderstood almost everything about online selling, or about retail in general, that I find it difficult to think they have had any success.
Two recent developments seem to show that.
The posts about how the recent change in the IRS paperwork (getting a 1099 form after $600 rather than $20K) reveal first that many sellers do not understand the difference between payments and profits, and that many have not been reporting those profits on their tax forms.
And the switch to Managed Payments, which not only show that many sellers had no idea of what fees they had been paying, but also just what information they had given to Paypal to allow their payments to be processed.

I appreciate your thoughts and agree to literal extent - Possibly i should have said SOME OF THE PEOPLE you disparage - though by the same token, that would have given you no reason to express yourself with this particular line of thought in reply.

I personally am one of the people who dont have a lot good to say about the current state of online sales - I have sold hundreds of thousands of dollars(possibly over a million) in online sales (mainly on ebay) - As you can see now, I dont have a store and have only a handful of items listed - Continuing to feed the mouth that constantly bites me is difficult, though I personally have not yet given my "I'm leaving" rant - I'm hoping they realize they are biting to deep and back off in some way shape or form - only time will tell.

yuzuha · ‎05-09-2022

@southern*sweet*tea wrote:

Some people are always miserable and they're not "happy" unless they are making other people miserable too. I think that's a big part of it - seems there are lots of miserable people around these days and they feel they owe it to the rest of us to make us miserable too.

We have one regular customer at my B&M job like that and literally all of us hate her because she is just the most miserable, negative person all the time about EVERYTHING. I can't understand how people can live like that and not just drop dead from a heart attack or a stroke or something from being so worked up over everything all the time.

maxine*j · ‎05-09-2022

@yuzuha wrote:

We have one regular customer at my B&M job like that and literally all of us hate her because she is just the most miserable, negative person all the time about EVERYTHING. I can't understand how people can live like that and not just drop dead from a heart attack or a stroke or something from being so worked up over everything all the time.

Based on a family member of the same ilk, I'd say it's because being angry, distraught, distressed, victimized, et cetera, is her way to keep the focus on herself at all times, in every encounter and conversation. She's found a way to feed an unhealthy and insatiable need for attention.

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