10-23-2024 03:42 PM
As of right now, Ebay shows the minimum threshold for 2024 being only $600. I did see something from Ebay that came out in April 2024 saying the threshold would be $5000 for 2024 and 2025, then $600 after that. Does anyone know for sure what the thresholds are? This is still a ridiculous amount and will eventually force me to stop selling on Ebay, just so I won't have to mess with hiring a dang CPA to figure out how much I lost each year selling on Ebay ... after the monthly Ebay store fee, selling fees Ebay takes from the purchase price and shipping price. I'm also wondering if this "gross amount" that Ebay reports includes all the taxes that Ebay takes out automatically that our hands never touch? The taxes should not be in our "gross amount" but I bet it will be. I understand it's our job to make deductions for internet, storage unit fees, shipping, etc.. but I would think taxes charged the buyer should not be included in our "gross amount".
10-24-2024 04:06 AM
One more thing if one lives in a state that has a state income tax they may have a threshold of $600. That 1099K is good for both the IRS and state income taxes - one receives 3 parts one for the seller records, one for the IRS and one for the state income tax. Sellers need to check into that too.
The 1099-K has nothing to do with state sales tax it relates to income tax. EBay handles the sales tax which the seller never sees. EBay collects it from the buyer and remits it to the individual states as required.
10-24-2024 11:35 AM
@dbfolks166mt wrote:One more thing if one lives in a state that has a state income tax they may have a threshold of $600. That 1099K is good for both the IRS and state income taxes - one receives 3 parts one for the seller records, one for the IRS and one for the state income tax. Sellers need to check into that too.
The 1099-K has nothing to do with state sales tax it relates to income tax. EBay handles the sales tax which the seller never sees. EBay collects it from the buyer and remits it to the individual states as required.
He did not say "sales tax". He is talking about Income Taxes. Some states do require a 1099K at a certain Threshold.
10-24-2024 11:39 AM
The IRS did state that it was going to raise the threshold to $5k, last year.
Since then, the Supreme Court has ruled that government agencies and departments must follow the law as written in unrelated cases.
The IRS has been mum, perhaps because they do not have the right to change the requirement from $600.
10-24-2024 12:17 PM
@tobaccocardyahoo wrote:The IRS did state that it was going to raise the threshold to $5k, last year.
Since then, the Supreme Court has ruled that government agencies and departments must follow the law as written in unrelated cases.
The IRS has been mum, perhaps because they do not have the right to change the requirement from $600.
No they didn't. They said they are PLANNING to raise the threshold to 5K for 2024. They can't do that without Congressional approval.
Last year they didn't announce the change until very late in the year, I suspect this year will be no different. Especially in an election year.
But it really doesn't matter. With or without the form, we are all responsible for reporting ALL our income. There is no threshold on that.
10-24-2024 12:20 PM
@mam98031 wrote:
@tobaccocardyahoo wrote:The IRS did state that it was going to raise the threshold to $5k, last year.
Since then, the Supreme Court has ruled that government agencies and departments must follow the law as written in unrelated cases.
The IRS has been mum, perhaps because they do not have the right to change the requirement from $600.
No they didn't. They said they are PLANNING to raise the threshold to 5K for 2024. They can't do that without Congressional approval.
Last year they didn't announce the change until very late in the year, I suspect this year will be no different. Especially in an election year.
But it really doesn't matter. With or without the form, we are all responsible for reporting ALL our income. There is no threshold on that.
Last year's change from $600 was not approved by Congress. They just did it. Given the SCOTUS decisions on other agencies - silence.
10-24-2024 12:34 PM
SCOTUS had nothing to do with it.
Congress passed a Bill to allow for the Stimulus payments to Americans a couple years ago. It requires Congress to approve changes since currently the $600 is the rule.
I doubt that IRS just decided to "do it" and arbitrarily increase the threshold on the form for 2023.
This issue is currently moving through Congress.
10-24-2024 12:49 PM
@tobaccocardyahoo wrote:Last year's change from $600 was not approved by Congress. They just did it. Given the SCOTUS decisions on other agencies - silence.
I agree, congress did not approve the change in the law so what authority did the IRS have to change it on their own? Just think if it is decided IRS did not have the authority to change the law and they have to retroactively go back and enforce the law.
10-24-2024 12:55 PM
You have gotten your timing off.
$600 was the legal limit last year too.
IRS decided they could not handle the volume of 1099ks and changed it back to $20k.
Probably illegal then, more likely now.
I expect it to be $600 by February 15 when the 1099k forms must be mailed by.
10-24-2024 01:07 PM
I believe the SCOTUS "Chevron decision" will have a lot to do with agencies acting within their authority going froward.
"“Chevron is overruled,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the majority opinion. “Courts must exercise their independent judgment in deciding whether an agency has acted within its statutory authority.”"
The Courts could say IRS did not have authority to change the law. The law is written pretty straight forward and I don't see how it could be interpreted to mean something different. Maybe the IRS has other authority by law that allowed them not to enforce the current law as written?
10-27-2024 07:27 PM - edited 10-27-2024 07:29 PM
Remember, its the democrats who are trying to micromanage income tax and squeeze pennies out of the low and middle class income people who already need to sell items in order to afford other ones.
10-27-2024 07:59 PM - edited 10-27-2024 08:20 PM
I'll reply to this after the election.
10-27-2024 08:00 PM - edited 10-27-2024 08:14 PM
Penalty abatement.
10-27-2024 10:55 PM
@oddznends2007 wrote:Remember, its the democrats who are trying to micromanage income tax and squeeze pennies out of the low and middle class income people who already need to sell items in order to afford other ones.
As has been said MANY times. Getting this form does not mean you suddenly owe income taxes on whatever you got paid on this site. It is after all ONLY a form. With or without the FORM you are suppose to report all income on your Federal Income Tax reports. So why does it matter what the threshold for this form is. It does NOT change your income taxes you owe, as you are suppose to report all income.
Myth: If taxpayers didn't receive a Form 1099-K, they don't have to report income.
Fact: According to federal law, all income is taxable unless it is specifically excluded by tax law. Taxpayers should report any profits from selling goods or services, regardless of if they receive a Form 1099-K.
10-28-2024 03:28 AM - edited 10-28-2024 03:47 AM
Dude there are some states that have a state Income tax - like Georgia where I live. For certain they want to get a piece of that revenue stream - aka income tax money. Agree with you on your comment about the state sales tax that the buyers pay.
In an election year the Feds MAY make a more definite time table to enact the 1099K issuance some time after November 5. depending on the FINAL out come. Just MYHO, The wheels of the Gov moves in mysterious way as I have observed since I started paying attention to it some time after college in '67 and started a family - never voted until then. See I had to take a physical at the direction of my Selective Service Draft Board, past the test with fly colors - made 2+2 = 4 two times in arow, past the color blind test, turn your head and cough and drop your draws and bend over.
Ciao and Pura Vida
10-28-2024 04:17 AM
In an election year the Feds MAY make a more definite time table to enact the 1099K issuance some time after November 5. depending on the FINAL out come. Just MYHO, The wheels of the Gov moves in mysterious way as I have observed since I started paying attention to it some time after college in '67 and started a family - never voted until then. See I had to take a physical at the direction of my Selective Service Draft Board, past the test with fly colors - made 2+2 = 4 two times in arow, past the color blind test, turn your head and cough and drop your draws and bend over.
Ciao and Pura Vida
Remember the law is already in place as part of the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 but has been delayed by the IRS for the last 3 years. Also remember that regardless of the election outcome the current members of Congress and the current President remain in office until January.