I come from a manufacturing background
tier 1 autmotive supplier
we tried hard my fellow workers and me and were rewarded with new jackets,accolades etc.
just what is this ISO 9000 stuff anyway I asked my buddy
well it basically boils down to this, he told me
say what you do and do what you say
very simple concept if you can mange to do it
its not being followed here as far as I can see
ebay is failing to follow any of its own best practices
I will not disparage my ebay friends & family
I will not disparage my great family name
ARK + DOVE
john & sara..... W.F. lost city of Providence