I get the policy but why was my item removed yet there are 100s more with the same wording...

[buddistuff]

I really don't understand!! I got a 'violation" for listing a jar top only of the pancake lady (I don't dare say who) how ridiculous!! I never thought this violated any policy!!  The thing that gets me in addition to what a dumb policy this is, is that there are TONS of listings for "A.M" yet they are fine and allowed.  eBay if you're going to enforce the rules, you should enforce them for everyone. If there are "too many' listings to do that then you need to speak to your IT department about the way you "search" for these listings because it's half A***ed!!!   Some get to stay and others are removed?  So glad I'm paying all the high fees.

I'm so ticked. Wonder if I can list that on Facebook Marketplace or are there the same dictators over there? Anyone know?  Thanks.

[bonjourami]

"It is a pity people who do not know her story view her so harshly today."

Then I guess image is everything..real or not..Aunt Jemima was a slave image. I dont understand anything collectible or inspiring about that.

[house*of*paws]

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@north40sales wrote:

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@bonjourami wrote:

Aunt Jemima was a slave..Ebay was right to remove these offensive items that are hurtful and demeaning to a portion of its buyers..if you see these listings, report them..as Im sure yours was reported.

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"Aunt Jemima" was not a real person, slave or not. 

Yes, its racist.  Yes, it violates ebay's policy, but No, she was not a real person at all.  

More on the history of the "Aunt Jemima" character and the Pearl Milling Company is readily available on Wiki.

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It's irrelevant whether 'Aunt Jemima' was a 'real person'.  Her character is depicted in a slave costume, and the owner of the trademark wanted her image and name removed from their products.

[north40sales]

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@toooldtorock wrote:

"Aunt Jemima was a slave"

Her real name was Nancy Greene.

Born one but by the time she became a spokeswoman for the product line she was most

free.

She earned a very good salary promoting the product line across the United States,

enough so she donated to charitable anti-poverty causes she favored.

She enjoyed being a spokeswoman for the pancake line and was quite proud of it.

Greene may have had a rough start in life but she certainly ended as a successful

career woman.

It is a pity people who do not know her story view her so harshly today.

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Nancy Green portrayed Aunt Jemima at the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago, one of the first Black corporate models in the United States.   "Aunt Jemima" was a character originally from a Vaudeville production....but she was not a real person at all.

Here is the full Wiki link if you would like more information.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aunt_Jemima

[north40sales]

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@house*of*paws wrote:

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@north40sales wrote:

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@bonjourami wrote:

Aunt Jemima was a slave..Ebay was right to remove these offensive items that are hurtful and demeaning to a portion of its buyers..if you see these listings, report them..as Im sure yours was reported.

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"Aunt Jemima" was not a real person, slave or not. 

Yes, its racist.  Yes, it violates ebay's policy, but No, she was not a real person at all.  

More on the history of the "Aunt Jemima" character and the Pearl Milling Company is readily available on Wiki.

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It's irrelevant whether 'Aunt Jemima' was a 'real person'.  Her character is depicted in a slave costume, and the owner of the trademark wanted her image and name removed from their products.

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It's absolutely relevant when people keep spreading fake information about it.   I clearly stated that it was racist and that it violated eBay's policy.  However it is important for people to know the truth about the Character...especially when they clearly believe that she was a real person.    

[north40sales]

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@bonjourami wrote:

"It is a pity people who do not know her story view her so harshly today."

Then I guess image is everything..real or not..Aunt Jemima was a slave image. I dont understand anything collectible or inspiring about that.

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People do collect some of the weirdest stuff...

[house*of*paws]

@buddistuff 

It was the owner of the 'Aunt Jemima' trademark that decided it was offensive ... and no longer wanted the image or name associated with its products.

>>  I don't think it is offensive.  A cookie jar is not offensive.  <<

I don't know you or your beliefs ... but I am sure that there are images that you would consider offensive if depicted on a cookie jar ... regardless of whether other people considered them offensive. 

None of us gets to judge what is offensive to someone else.  If you don't consider the cookie jar offensive ... then keep it and cherish it.  I won't judge you.

[sextons-sweet-deals]

I guess this just shows my age!

Aunt Jemima's syrup was a person that you could count on being a good product. I never looked at her as being less than anyone else. 

Who can tell me and explain that she was a slave image? I guess Hazel was also a slave in the 1960's show ?

Stop the cancel culture and learn something from your parents and grandparents, and hopefully from your school which seems to be too afraid to educate the truth. 

President Jackson raped his female slaves! I was never told that in school!

Christopher Columbus did not discover America!  I was never told that in school!

Let's correct history and educate our future generations!

I expect backlash on this, but that just shows who you are.

[bonjourami]

"People do collect some of the weirdest stuff..."

Thats for sure, I wouldnt have something like that in my kitchen.Its never occurred to me if she was a real person or not..its the image of her thats offensive. Vaudeville was also famous for white performers in "Black Face", an image that is not tolerated today.And rightly so.

[bonjourami]

"Who can tell me and explain that she was a slave image? I guess Hazel was also a slave in the 1960's show ?"

Uh, Hazel was not Black,although there were white slaves throughout history..Hazel was not one of them..poor example.

[north40sales]

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@bonjourami wrote:

"People do collect some of the weirdest stuff..."

Thats for sure, I wouldnt have something like that in my kitchen.Its never occurred to me if she was a real person or not..its the image of her thats offensive. Vaudeville was also famous for white performers in "Black Face", an image that is not tolerated today.And rightly so.

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unless you are a politician that had a photo taken of them in "Black Face".....then it's A-OK.  The Hypocrisy that exists out there is simply incredible. 

[bonjourami]

Yes.

[north40sales]

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@sextons-sweet-deals wrote:

I guess this just shows my age!

Aunt Jemima's syrup was a person that you could count on being a good product. I never looked at her as being less than anyone else. 

Who can tell me and explain that she was a slave image? I guess Hazel was also a slave in the 1960's show ?

Stop the cancel culture and learn something from your parents and grandparents, and hopefully from your school which seems to be too afraid to educate the truth. 

President Jackson raped his female slaves! I was never told that in school!

Christopher Columbus did not discover America!  I was never told that in school!

Let's correct history and educate our future generations!

I expect backlash on this, but that just shows who you are.

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Well you cannot expect public education to present a balanced and accurate curriculum any longer.

The Aunt Jemima image on the syrup bottle did not strike me as particularly offensive as it was never portrayed as a slave image in the marketing that I was exposed to growing up.   She was always a kindly character that just wanted to sell syrup with the animated bottle commercials.   

It only became offensive when the cancel culture folks decided that it was a problem.    Same with Land-O-Lakes butter being forced to discard the beautiful image of a Native American on their package.  

Now these items, along with countless other items are tossed into the "Racist" and "Hate Promoting" category and are treated the same as Nazi Items, Confederate Battle Flags, and Holocaust memorabilia.  

[house*of*paws]

@sextons-sweet-deals 

>>  Who can tell me and explain that she was a slave image?  <<

The 'mammy costume' she wears is what associates the image with slavery. 

[I hope my reply isn't considered 'backlash' ... because it was meant to be just an answer.]

[bonjourami]

"It only became offensive when the cancel culture folks decided that it was a problem."

Sorry, but I dont consider Blacks and Native Americans part of the 'cancel culture'..if they object to these images, its within their rights to do so.   

[north40sales]

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@bonjourami wrote:

"It only became offensive when the cancel culture folks decided that it was a problem."

Sorry, but I dont consider Blacks and Native Americans part of the 'cancel culture'..if they object to these images, its within their rights to do so.   

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Did I say that?   Nope. 

Please refrain from putting a specific racial spin like that on other people's comments.