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I Surrender to eBay

Still on this matter, how does eBay want me to be stressing myself this much in my  clothing category? Provide them with SSN, provide them with a bank account which they will have access to & fro?  I know we have been making some cash from listing on eBay but I didn't think eBay considered her sellers before making these decisions. eBay reasons of making her decisions and forcing sellers to give out security information is because government is demanding for it. Its quite easy for some sellers to jump out here and be talking as if it is the best policy but I don't view this as a progressive policy.   Its better for eBay to ask sellers to start working for them officially than to hide under a policy which does not guarantee the sellers anything. I will not stress myself again listing individual items for someone to come & sit on. Its the choice of eBay to do whatever they want with their platform.

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Some sellers have been on eBay's platform for 20+ years.  Although eBay was their initial sales venue  a great many were establishing their own brand.  Many of these sellers did develop their own websites and used eBay to drive traffic to them.  I would make my initial purchase on eBay and receive their business information with the package.  Then I could make the subsequent purchases at their website which offered a better price since the seller no longer had to add the eBay fees to the price.  You can still purchase commercial based postage through PayPal or Pirateship.

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@lightlily_arts wrote:

I only responded to your question to in reply to 02-15-2021 12:18:18 PM as to what they meant by "Business sense."

I'm not going to play teacher as everyone chooses their own path.  However I do feel my point about selling used clothing and shoes on another venue is valid.     There's Poshmark and Mercari but I don't sell there and don't know what they require to sell on their platforms.  Perhaps they could work for you.


FWIW - just an 'in general' reply: They both have their own managed payment systems.  However, disbursal of funds on Poshmark does have two options - one by bank direct deposit (which I do) or a paper check.  However, their fees are 20% and it's digging in hard ground due to being social media.  Mercari it's direct deposit only and honestly, I have much better luck selling media and sports gear there than clothing.  On both sites one does a lot of haggling.

 

In general, of the sites I use regularly, eBay has the least amount of work in it. I use Etsy, too, but mostly just for cheap server space to store my off-season vintage or sell spare kimono and the like - they have a managed payment system similar to eBay, and also use Adyen as a payment processor.

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@maxine*j wrote:

@ony_chine wrote:

Thank you teacher, I appreciate but Im not a learner in business. I mentor many people in business..


With that expertise, you:

 

--  Already have a separate checking account for your eBay sales, because you would never mix personal and business finances (even if you are a sole proprietor).  That's the banking info you'd give to  eBay.

 

--  Know that you can get an EIN from the feds, even if you are a sole proprietor, and you can give that to eBay instead of your SSN.

 

--  Are filing a Schedule C, at the very least, and so need the detailed info you get from eBay, so you'll be glad to have it even better documented in MPs.

 

Those are just the first things that occur to me, off the top of my head, that cause me to be puzzled at your decision to leave eBay over what is a minor change to someone already operating as a business.


FYI for all of the sellers who keep making statements here on community boards that;  "sellers who's business's are incorporated can avoid giving eBay their SSN by providing eBay with their EIN"; ARE PROVIDING FALSE INFORMATION! 

 

If a seller's business is incorporated they do provide eBay with their business's EIN, and then right after that eBay promptly replies with "Provide the full names, address, phone #, AND SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS for every individual who owns more 25% of said business.

 

So there's no SSN get out of jail free card for sellers with EINs.

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@go-bad-chicken wrote:

@maxine*j wrote:

@ony_chine wrote:

Thank you teacher, I appreciate but Im not a learner in business. I mentor many people in business..


With that expertise, you:

 

--  Already have a separate checking account for your eBay sales, because you would never mix personal and business finances (even if you are a sole proprietor).  That's the banking info you'd give to  eBay.

 

--  Know that you can get an EIN from the feds, even if you are a sole proprietor, and you can give that to eBay instead of your SSN.

 

--  Are filing a Schedule C, at the very least, and so need the detailed info you get from eBay, so you'll be glad to have it even better documented in MPs.

 

Those are just the first things that occur to me, off the top of my head, that cause me to be puzzled at your decision to leave eBay over what is a minor change to someone already operating as a business.


FYI for all of the sellers who keep making statements here on community boards that;  "sellers who's business's are incorporated can avoid giving eBay their SSN by providing eBay with their EIN"; ARE PROVIDING FALSE INFORMATION! 

 

If a seller's business is incorporated they do provide eBay with their business's EIN, and then right after that eBay promptly replies with "Provide the full names, address, phone #, AND SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS for every individual who owns more 25% of said business.

 

So there's no SSN get out of jail free card for sellers with EINs.


Did that actually happen to you? It's the first time I've seen that mentioned on the forums. It seems unlikely, because the IRS requires the SSN of the entity that controls the business as part of the EIN application process. eBay shouldn't need it.

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How are you doing 

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Hello 

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you work for ebay right? how many sellers have expertise? ebay is transitioning to an employer even if they don't think so. It just happen to UBR. what do you tell those people that don't have a checking account anymore because of the pandemic. 

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ebay has been hacked......

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I have been selling antiques on this platform on and off since 2004. I have never recieved a negative feedback. I have over 2000 feedbacks buying and selling, Ebay is not allowing me to list items that customers on ebay want, unique items, not amazon items. I do not have a checking account. who are the people that have them, and who are the people that don't have them........I guess ebay forgot we are in a  pandemic. The manage payment policy turns ebay into an employer just like UBR, the control, and worse yet, look at what it does to minority sellers like me.

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Never mix your money!  Have a separate account for your personal expenses (housing, utilities, etc.) and another account for online sales.  Banks understand and can tell YOU stories!  It's a real shocker when you go to pay bills and the money is gone, without ANY notice!  Even if you're innocent, it takes a long time to straighten out.  Now, go to your bank and get that 2nd account.  It's fast, easy and free.  I sleep great!! You will, too.

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i won't be able to comply with the ebay policy, I am a small minority seller selling few items since 2004 with perfect feedback, I don't have a checking account anymore, its the pandemic. If I had a checking account, it would be difficult for me to check the bank since I don't have a cell phone or access to a computer all the time, I go to the library.

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you got it backwards.....the small sellers charge higher prices than you, this is why you sell the items you do, once the small sellers are gone, you are competing with other sellers with your same price so you will have to go lower to sell anything, only the buyer is benefiting. who are the small sellers? minorities, single parents, the elderly. 

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look at what ebay wants sellers to do. Ebay wants sellers to provide a short term loan to ebay without interest for about a week or so. Since most sellers will not get paid on their items for a week, ebay plays with their money boosting their cashflow. The only thing that adds value to ebay is their sellers, in a pandemic to make payment policy like, single parents, elderly sellers, minorities that are poor to have to wait for their money and to comply with more rules. It would be impossible for me to check every transaction that occurs in the bank. This new policy will not benefit even large sellers. It will pit large seller against large seller, eventually they will lose money and small sellers will be destroyed or working for ebay indirectly. Prices will rise for everyone. I will not be able to comply with these new rules I have 2000 feedbacks for buying and selling since 2004. I guess I will just be a buyer then from now on. The payment policy should be optional. This new policy favors buyers it should be balanced, which is not.

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it takes a week for the item to arrive, and a day or so for a release of funds, you just gave ebay a loan without interest for 10 days , this is just the beginning

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the platform is already eroding...the supply is disappearing on items like gijoe, like hot wheels redline, the list goes on and on and I am seeing prices double......competition from many sellers is what democracy is about, this new policy will hurt everyone eventually, buyers and sellers alike

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