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I AM DONE !

I have been selling here on Ebay since 02-03. I have a good seller rating, I am a powerseller, have good feedback. My sales have tanked big time.

I can no longer afford to make investments to sell on this site any longer.

I feel I have tried everything within my power to make this work for me and my household. Store/no store/ single items, lots.  I look for my own items and can't find them due to the new system. As soon as what I have listed ends I will no longer be here. A sad note for me is thiss is something I really enjoyed. I realize other sites such as Etsy are about the same. Good bye to all fellow Ebayers have met some wonderful folks through the years and much luck to all sellers. I mean this I am not bitter, everything to me is a season my season here is over.

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@goodluckselling wrote:

@dilo-8873 wrote:

@lewisburggold wrote:

Sorry to see another good seller go because of the changes.  Best regards


Dear  Mr. Lewisburggold:

Good sellers have been leaving for quite some time now because of the changes. The ladies that come to this board complaining about bad sellers will have more of that to look forward to. And then, because of these bad sellers, the good buyers will leave, and all that will be left will be bad sellers and bad buyers. Now whose fault would that be?

 

 


Ebay completes more than One Billion transactions daily worldwide.  I think they understand how ecommerce works better than you or I.

 

Good Luck Selling!


This is a pretty insensitive thing to say, given the topic you are posting in. Also considering that many of eBay's best sellers are dropping in an unprescendented manner, it is ignoring the point.

 

A good seller with a good reputation has been forced to leave eBay. It is not the time to praise how many transactions eBay has. That only serves to rub salt in the wound.

 


@goodluckselling wrote:


There is no double standard.  All sellers have to meet the same seller standard ratings.  Feedback is not even part of the equation, because it is easily misused.

 

Good Luck Selling!


This is not true. Some of the top sellers on eBay have contact information on their pages for months and months, and have not been punished, while others were swiftly punished.

 

Also , the bugs. If you happen to have some of the major bugs affecting your visibility, you could be doing the same exact thing as the store next to you, with the same ratings, but a portion of your inventory simply is not appearing in search. This too, is a double standard, as it will work for the other person, but not for you (until the issues are resolved, then you will be equal again).

 

Furthermore,  If there's no transparency on which of those standard ratings are most heavily weighted to help your account when you are having problems, then it is inherently a double standard. 

 

Right now, some people just happen to be doing what is most well-received by eBay. Those who are not, are out of luck. 

 

If eBay were to give advice to a seller, they would give you advice that would take the largest amount off of your margin.

 

If we were to give advice to what -really- works, would it match eBay's? One of the few people on here lately that has been vocal about doing significantly better this year than last, does not offer returns. Meanwhile, many using free returns are doing significantly worse than last year. And those not using free returns are having "Very High" returns stating that they will have 4% increased FVF (because Free Returns DOES reduce your fake SNAD claims).

 

No matter how you look at it, none of these options are really treated fairly. Hence double standards are seemingly commonplace.

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@grayirongolf wrote:

Your not done.  Did'nt you guys know?  When you join eBay you join the San Jose Mafia & the only way out is in a box.


You can check out any time...

Haha, I know you're singing it now!

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@tunicaslot wrote:

I'm glad you're not bitter and I wish you luck elsewhere - but you have over a 50% sell thru rate which is unheard of these days on Ebay - so I think you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. 

 

 


Hey Tunica! How can you see someone`s sell thru rate? I know mine isn`t very good but I`ve engineered it that way for the mostpart.

"There`s always barber college" - Dalton - Road House
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Sorry you are leaving. Ebay is losing some good sellers. All the best to you.

"There`s always barber college" - Dalton - Road House
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I was going to say that - sports cards were collectibles 20 yrs ago. My kids and I went to shows every week looking for cards to complete their collection. Although I have a couple of friends that still collect cards - they are only looking for the rarer autographed cards. The boxes of Upper Deck and Stadium sports cards I have are worth squat.

 

This type of seller can not even begin to talk about stock prices where Ebay is really the only market in town where they can still sell their items. It's not Ebay's fault the trend has died.

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@coolections wrote:
@twnpopcards wrote:
Ebay went cheap when the decided to design Sellers Hub and the new catalog and still refuses to buy the necessary equipment to show all listings 24/7/365 which would be beneficial to both Ebay and Sellers alike. 

@twnpopcards

That would not be beneficial at all. There is not a buyer in the world that wants to search through 8 million cards. Unfortunately for you your market is over saturatedl. The demand for sports cards has dropped every year for the last 20 years. Your problem is not an Ebay problem; it is a demand and pricing problem as there are only so many buyers for your category out there.


Well when the buyers find my items on other sites and buy them but also ask why they could not find my items on Ebay, yes it is an EBAY problem.  I am fully aware of the changing market and have moved right along with it.  In fact before Wenig started playing around with hiding the listings and this AI stuff my sales were the best they ever had been on Ebay.  Ebay had been 100% of my sales but now they are down to about 40% because the buyers are tired of not being able to find what they want.  

 

When they buyer types in a specific type of card and cannot find it, again that is not a demand problem, it is a platform problem which has been proven over and over again.  Next time do your research on a seller and their products before making broad inaccurate assumptions as there still is a very big market for cards, in fact last year was one of the best overall in many years. 

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@zamo-zuan wrote:


This is a pretty insensitive thing to say, given the topic you are posting in. Also considering that many of eBay's best sellers are dropping in an unprescendented manner, it is ignoring the point.  A good seller with a good reputation has been forced to leave eBay. It is not the time to praise how many transactions eBay has. That only serves to rub salt in the wound.

That's a pretty insensitive thing to say to someone giving their opinion. NO ONE forced the seller to leave Ebay. Yes, Ebay does force some bad sellers to leave but not this one. The person gave facts which if you want to think it is praising it is your opinion but it is not throwing salt anywhere and it is only your opinion.

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@goodluckselling wrote:

@ted_200 wrote:

There is no double standard.  All sellers have to meet the same seller standard ratings.  Feedback is not even part of the equation, because it is easily misused.

 

Right.  Seller with 850 non-positive f/b in a year... it's not their fault, those are just 850 "bad buyers"? 

 

All sellers do NOT have to meet the same standard ratings, some "special" ones are exempted, and the standards used are pretty much useless in determining quality anyhow.  Feedback is easily misused, but it is also mostly accurate.   A seller with 33 sales and 2 neg.s may not be a bad seller.  Any seller with 850 non-positive f/b is a lousy seller, unless they've sold 400,000 items. 


eBay has told us many times, ALL sellers have to meet the same seller standards.  Why is this so hard to believe?  Are you saying eBay is deliberately lying to its user base?

 

 

 

Good Luck Selling!


Since they have been caught many times doing so, that would definitely be a yes.

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@tunicaslot wrote:

I was going to say that - sports cards were collectibles 20 yrs ago. My kids and I went to shows every week looking for cards to complete their collection. Although I have a couple of friends that still collect cards - they are only looking for the rarer autographed cards. The boxes of Upper Deck and Stadium sports cards I have are worth squat.

 

This type of seller can not even begin to talk about stock prices where Ebay is really the only market in town where they can still sell their items. It's not Ebay's fault the trend has died.


You are absolutely correct as those cards were so overproduced that they are referred to as the junk Era and a complete set of most of those will sell for maybe $5-$6.  But not all of us continue to try and sell those cards but do keep up with the trends and do sell items when our buyers can find them.  Ebay is quickly losing their footing in the market as both buyers and sellers are getting tired of the scammers that Ebay continues to protect.  But the hobby is very much alive and well over on FB where sellers and buyers can actually name the names and addresses of those that do the scamming and it is having an effect, even on the Ebay scammers who also get posted over there.  

 

The only reason there are 8 milion cards listed is that Ebay brought on COMC who actually have their own site but could not bring in enough traffic to take care of their sellers so now they are also on Ebay.  But more and more buyers are starting to avoid them  like the plague since they no longer guarantee that the buyer gets the card that they are shown in the listing, similar to Ebay and their new catalog.  For the amount of time I put into selling I am actually doing quite well thank you, but also know just how much better things could be if the buyers could actually find what they wanted instead of what Ebay wants to show them.

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eBay has told us many times, ALL sellers have to meet the same seller standards.  Why is this so hard to believe? 

 

I like that!  It has that whole Jeopardy! answer before the question feel to it!

 

I can tell you from my experience that about 30% of buyers actually leave feedback and that is based on over 60K transactions.  So based on your theory any buyer who does not leave feedback was a buyer that was not happy enough with there purchase to leave feedback because feedback is mostly accurate.

 

Until recently, I was running about 90%... it might be as low as 70% now, thanks to some "improvments".  

 

Actually, no, that's not my theory.  Any buyer who does not leave feedback simply does not count, it doesn't mean anything about their "happiness", it means they didn't leave feedback. 

 

By "accurate", I mean sellers with substantial numbers of sales and have f/b of 99.8% or higher are almost always good, sellers much below 99% likely have some issues.   For lower volume sellers, more than 2 or 3 neg.s likely have some issue, but you'd have to actually read the f/b to know for sure.

 

You sound like you would rather have feedback be a basis for the seller rating? 

It's certainly how I rate sellers, still.  "Top Rated" is certainly of no help to a buyer.   If you mean how eBay rates sellers, yeah, it's still better than the current metrics.  Negative feedback is about real problems that matter to real buyers.  The current metrics don't measure that very well, and even if they did, hiding the potential problem with certain sellers in exchange for charging them another 4% FVF isn't helpful a buyer anyhow.

 

 

None of this is the OP's problem though... if you sell something that isn't part of an eBay catalog (or, more broadly, if it's not a functioning part of eBay's catalog), visibility is thin and getting thinner around here.  Sellers used to understand how to get their (whatever) seen by the people looking for it on the site.  Now, if you're lucky enough to figure it out, it will just change again in a couple of months anyhow, and the people who were looking for it are wandering away in frustration. 

The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves.
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@jason_incognito wrote:

I don't see it as a problem with eBay. There are just too many sellers.

 

There are  794,000+ brooches on eBay.

 

There are 2.691 listings for a parrot broach. around 1200 have sold going back to May 17th and including China sellers.

 

There's just a glut of listings. I blame eBay allowing stuff to be listed for years and years..... Tons of old stale listings blocking people from seeing the new stuff.


There are too many listings, not necessarily too many sellers.

 

So, whose fault is that?  There were roughly 15 million listings when I showed up, STR was nearly 50%!  That sounds like a problem with eBay, to me.  It wasn't anyone else decided that a billion free listings were a good idea. 

 

 

The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves.
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I am not so sure about that. Sadly they only can hit sellers for money because they do not know how to be their own brand..they are a very confusing copycat now full of advertising and bad search results..promoting sellers and products that are not always the best match for the buyer. I tried buying ..i left the site, bought on Walmart and Amazon ..easier for products I was looking for. And then sellers here are now selling for more than physical stores, and much more reputable ones. I did a simple search for Sundry sweat pants..i sell them, but also buy for myself..i can buy for less on my favorite full price websites. Bissell spinwave, I can buy for less off here too. Why would I buy from a random seller for MSRP or more? Zero reason
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Walmart reported 40% growth this morning and upped projections for the year...and they have been strategic in their moves and not once do they reference or allude to Amazon in advertising.  Sales are up significantly...

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Totally understand what you went through. Ebay is still good for getting rid of your old items to recoup some of the costs if marketable. Other than that Ebay is not much. Good luck!

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@rixstuff wrote:

And ask this - is it really that you cant be found or that nobody is looking? Views only count when someone clicks the listing to open it.  That doesnt mean that someone looks for "vintage hats" and yours dont come up, just that maybe they looked at someone elses instead.


 Since all the way back to Donahoe, ebay believes that buyers wants new mall merchandise and all the changes the bosses have made moved ebay toward becoming just another site on the net with all the same stuff every other site has.  Even when a buyer of vintage uses ebay filters to avoid mall merchandise some of it still creeps in.  So a lot of the problems can trace to ebay's search program that refuses to accept that not all buyers want the hot trendy items.  Which is why I moved my vintage (whch includes hats) to another site years ago and am doing very well with it.  So people are looking, they just aren't doing it on ebay as much as they used to.

 

I looked at the OP's stuff and while I realize that they are in dump mode, there are things they could be doing better.  The hats she has are the common church lady 60s (which I have dozens of) which are the low end of desireability.  But since Halloween is coming up, they have costume appeal.  That is something ebay really fails at because when someone does a search for a costume, ebay will show them all the new manufactured stuff and brush the legit vintage pieces aside in their rush to sell mall merchandise.

 

I'd spend a few minutes with each one with a steamer and take a quick look at some of the trends and create a new title and some brighter pics and they might sell better than they way they are going now.

 

 

 

 

(*Bleep*)
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