How many unpaid item strikes before suspension?

[havana_ginger83]

I ask this in regards to a buyer who made a best offer on one of my items which I accepted and now they haven't paid. Taking a look at their feedback it seems they've had a lot of unpaid items (more then 10)!, how is it they are still able to bid?! 

[soh.maryl]

I cannot think of a mechanism where any of us would hear of a buyer getting suspended for not paying.

Not saying that it happens or not, because I don't know, just don't think it would become general knowledge.

[nobody*s_perfect]

Suspended buyers would show up on the discussion boards complaining about it.

[mam98031]

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@nobody*s_perfect wrote:

Suspended buyers would show up on the discussion boards complaining about it.

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If they are suspended, can they still access the boards?  I ask cuz I don't know.  Not being sarcastic at all.

[nobody*s_perfect]

Sellers who are banned from selling sure do show up.

[mam98031]

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@nobody*s_perfect wrote:

Sellers who are banned from selling sure do show up.

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I think I was overthinking your earlier statement.  I was thinking you meant NARU'd members, but of course that wasn't at all what you were saying.  But that is where my mind went.  Of course those that are simply restricted from buyer or selling can still post here. 

My apologies.

[the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth]

I’ve never heard of someone restricted from buying but still allowed to sell. Aren’t buyers NARUd if they lose their buying privileges?

I know you can lose your selling privileges and still buy but I don’t think the inverse is true?

[mam98031]

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@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:

I’ve never heard of someone restricted from buying but still allowed to sell. Aren’t buyers NARUd if they lose their buying privileges?

I know you can lose your selling privileges and still buy but I don’t think the inverse is true?

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Things change so often around here I have no idea what the current rules are on this.  Your guess is as good as mine.  I just don't know with any confidence what the current rules are.

[gramophone-georg]

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@mam98031 wrote:

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@nobody*s_perfect wrote:

There used to be a "three strikes and you're out" rule (well, actually it was 4 strikes because they'd forgive the first) but that policy disappeared shortly after eBay introduced the option to block bidders/buyers based on their strikes history.  I suppose all those sellers of fixed price IPR items don't care how many strikes a buyer has.

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That old rule was 3 strikes by 3 different seller in a 30 day period, maybe it was 60, but I think it was 30.

And you are right about IPR.  I'm one of those sellers.  On all my listings with IPR I do not have the buyer requirement for unpaid strikes set.

But on all my other listings that do not have IPR I have it set to be the strictest at 2 in 12 months.

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Even then, they can get right around that as a guest.

We've debated this "how many strikes" malarkey in the past many times. The brutal fact is that this rule, while it does exist, is enforced just as well as the bid retraction rule is, and just as well as the "item must be returned in same condition sent" rule is- that is to say, not at all.

[gramophone-georg]

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@mam98031 wrote:

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@inhawaii wrote:

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@bigdeals.etc wrote:

 Ebay decides that on a case by case basis... 

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Why can't they do that with RETURNS?

Judge returns on a case by case basis? Not just if they click on "not as described" ebay will automatically side with them.

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Can you imagine how much labor it would take for Ebay to pay a staff to look at every single return request and determine it on a case by case basis?  OMG it would be expensive.  Nice to dream about this happening, but realistically the application of it would be cost preventative.  That is why they have bots that take care of much of the process.  

Now lets just say Ebay did do something like this.  Somewhere they have to get paid for the extra costs involved.  And where do you think that money will come from?

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If eBay really had to do that, they'd go back to being "just a venue!" overnight. The bots are programmed to choose the option that costs the seller rather than eBay is all.

[gramophone-georg]

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@inhawaii wrote:

Yeah you're right .... but wouldn't it be nice. 

"I would like to return the sweater. I thought i was getting a pony."

REFUND!!!!

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No because I personally don't want more fees.  There are improvements to the system they could make without increasing fees.  And IMHO that is the direction we need to go.

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You'll get more fees whether you want them or not. Just wait.

[gramophone-georg]

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@nobody*s_perfect wrote:

Suspended buyers would show up on the discussion boards complaining about it.

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With guest checkout, there's no need.

[bigdeals.etc]

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@soh.maryl wrote:

I cannot think of a mechanism where any of us would hear of a buyer getting suspended for not paying.

Not saying that it happens or not, because I don't know, just don't think it would become general knowledge.

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Yea I was going to say much like others said here... if they did suspend for this, guest accounts would skyrocket. 

There is no longer an obligation for buyers to follow thru with their bids and purchases. Ebay caters to the fickle and wishy washy.

[mam98031]

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@gramophone-georg wrote:

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@mam98031 wrote:

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@inhawaii wrote:

Yeah you're right .... but wouldn't it be nice. 

"I would like to return the sweater. I thought i was getting a pony."

REFUND!!!!

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No because I personally don't want more fees.  There are improvements to the system they could make without increasing fees.  And IMHO that is the direction we need to go.

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You'll get more fees whether you want them or not. Just wait.

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While there are optional things that cost more in fees, things I choose not to use.  I have not had a FVF increase in a long time.  I don't think I'm special or anything.  I think it is safe to say that in the categories I sell in there has been on FVF increase in a long time.  Now a year or two ago they raised they store rates.  But other than that most people that say stuff about fee increases are just mistaken or they are choosing to use some of the promotional tools that cost extra money.