eBay

richard1rst · ‎10-05-2017

So I’m trying to list a Christmas coffee mug. Laden with Christmas symbols and bearing the inscription “Good Golly Be Jolly”

And I get a red flag warning me that under offensive restrictions golliwog dolls are not allowed. Do not list.

HUH ????

How does “good golly be jolly” translate into a golliwog doll.

And what in the blinkety blank blue blazes IS a golliwog doll that it is so offensive.

Anyone?

"Laissez-faire capitalism (AKA The Great Material Continuum) is the only social system based on the recognition of individual rights and, therefore, the only system that bans force from social relationships." ~ Ayn Rand

partial*eclipse · ‎10-06-2017

@tunicaslot wrote:
Don't worry OP - I had to google it and found some golliwog items listed here on Ebay - I think they are adorable - too much PC in this world.

Maybe they are, but the story books that they derived from weren't.

I wouldn't list the mug. This is the same stupid bot that won't let people use the terms "ivory" or "Indian red" to describe the color of an item, even when it's necessary such as the name of a dish pattern.

postingid2017 · ‎10-06-2017

The only way that I know what "golliwog" is, I purchased a butter dish from a seller here from the UK and IMHO my butter dish is the cutest. I have a small collection of Black America and the golliwog is a part of it that I used daily.

I have no idea what eBay is implying - I guess the bots are in need to be reprogramed.

coolections · ‎10-06-2017

Member since 08. I would think you would know it is bots.

grannysoldstuff · ‎10-06-2017

Good for you and I agree. I glad someone caught that unnecessary answer that was given. Not a bit helpful.

retrose1 · ‎10-06-2017

@partial*eclipse wrote:
@tunicaslot wrote:
Don't worry OP - I had to google it and found some golliwog items listed here on Ebay - I think they are adorable - too much PC in this world.
Maybe they are, but the story books that they derived from weren't.

I wouldn't list the mug. This is the same stupid bot that won't let people use the terms "ivory" or "Indian red" to describe the color of an item, even when it's necessary such as the name of a dish pattern.

I agree.

The list of common words we are not allowed to use because it might be considered offensive is getting longer and longer. And once something gets on the radar, you will only have problems with it in the future. And do you really want to spend the time and frustration dealing with ebay CS just to list a mug?

(*Bleep*)

hollysfinds · ‎10-06-2017

One time I was trying to list some china that the pattern name was " Indian Tree ".

I kept getting a warning that Indian artifacts were not allowed ( or something along those lines).

I called ebay to find out if I could list the plates without getting into trouble.

Simple question right ?

Well, I got transferred to 4-5 different people & I got no answer to my question.

They were going to transfer me to another person & I told them to just forget it.

Eventually I decided to go ahead & list the plates since

they were NOT Indian artifacts. I did so with no problems.

As with other things here, certain words get flagged & it generates a warning.

luckythewinner · ‎10-06-2017

@richard1rst wrote:
But I still don’t get the connection to the coffee mug.

Ther is no connections other than the fact that 'golly' sounds similar to 'golliwog'.

Many major search algorithms use a phonetic algorithm for matching, not just text.

For example in a Microsoft SQL server database, there is a function called "Soundex" that will score text phrases to evaluate how phonetically similar they are to each other.

Using Soundex as an example, parts of your title and the word and "golliwog" generate very similar scores:

golliwog = G420

golly = G400

golly be = G410

golly be jolly = G412

*madison · ‎10-06-2017

@penguins_dont_fly wrote:
@rolenboy01 wrote:
What does a golly wog have to do with good golly be jolly? I guess the song good golly miss molly is a racist song nowadays even though it was written by a presumingly black man named little richard?
Here's another apparently offensive song
https://youtu.be/OPdEL-FaVzc

I prefer the reggae version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtPSRh5pZno

*madison · ‎10-06-2017

When I was a kid back in the 1960's I collected golliwogs.

When I was about 18yrs old I looked at my golliwog collection and threw them all in the trash because I decided they were offensive and racist.

tunicaslot · ‎10-06-2017

That's too bad as my adopted niece would have loved them. Altough it's more common - it's hard sometimes to find african american dolls.

the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth · ‎10-06-2017

When I was a kid in England in the 1960s there was a Golliwog on the marmalade jar and one in the Noddy books. They were common. BTW Golly is the nickname for Golliwog. Also Wog which my Father used to use as a racial slur but he was a toned down Archie Bunker.

*madison · ‎10-06-2017

They were on Robertson's marmalade and jam jars. And if you collected tokens off the jars, you got a golliwog brooch or a badge.

llllady · ‎10-06-2017

@luckythewinner wrote:
@richard1rst wrote:
But I still don’t get the connection to the coffee mug.
Ther is no connections other than the fact that 'golly' sounds similar to 'golliwog'.

Many major search algorithms use a phonetic algorithm for matching, not just text.

For example in a Microsoft SQL server database, there is a function called "Soundex" that will score text phrases to evaluate how phonetically similar they are to each other.

Using Soundex as an example, parts of your title and the word and "golliwog" generate very similar scores:

golliwog = G420
golly = G400
golly be = G410
golly be jolly = G412

If what you say is true about the phoentic aspect, we're really in trouble if they start nailing the word it. 😉

“It took me quite a long time to develop a voice, and now that I have it, I am not going to be silent” ― Madeleine K. Albright

Great! 45.8% down over the same time last year with 2x+ items listed. Are you impressed? I'm certainly not!

richard1rst · ‎10-06-2017

First order of business in dealing with eBay is to realize that on eBay "AI" stands for Arrogant Incompetence and NOT Artificial Intelligence.

Seems so.

I found 72 items already listed here on eBay with the name golliwog in the title.

I found 884 items with the word Golly in the title.

So I tried again and I still get the warning.

"Laissez-faire capitalism (AKA The Great Material Continuum) is the only social system based on the recognition of individual rights and, therefore, the only system that bans force from social relationships." ~ Ayn Rand

gramophone-georg · ‎10-06-2017

@richard1rst wrote:

First order of business in dealing with eBay is to realize that on eBay "AI" stands for Arrogant Incompetence and NOT Artificial Intelligence.
Seems so.

I found 72 items already listed here on eBay with the name golliwog in the title.

I found 884 items with the word Golly in the title.

So I tried again and I still get the warning.

Just out of idle curiosity, how many of those 72 items are from places like China, Hong Kong, and India?

If listed as being in USA, click on the seller's feedback page and look where it says they are registered.

Chaos is NOT an "industry standard".