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How do I send a buyer prepaid return label without an open case?

I sold an item (perfume samples), the buyer contacted me they were weak and fake, and one was almost empty. These were manufactures' samples, wrapped in a non-see through wrapping by the manufacturer so I had no idea that one was almost empty. Anyway she contacted me stating the above and wrote " You can take these back."

She seemed kinda angry about this. Ok, since it was only a $10 item I replied that she could send them back to me and I'd refund upon receipt. I also said since they were wrapped I had no idea that one was empty and I was sorry.

The next message was "

"I’ll need a prepaid label with tracking as proof I mailed it back. I will provide the bubble mailer envelope."

How do I send her a prepaid label? I've looked around can't find a way to do it, unless a case has been opened. Am I missing something or do I need her to open a case?  It was very generous of her to provide a bubble mailer (probably the one I shipped it with, lol).

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How do I send a buyer prepaid return label without an open case?

First, ask her if she will be able to print the label if you send via email.  It's shocking how many claim they can't.  If they say they can't, then your best option is to tell them to open a return request and use eBay's return process, that's the only leverage you have in this case.  You'll only be charged when they print and USE the return label.

 

If they can print a label open a free account on PirateShip.com or any other postage vendor, create the return label and save it as a PDF.  eMail the PDF to the buyer and they can print it and ship it to you.  Downside here is if they don't ship it back you're out the label cost.

 

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How do I send a buyer prepaid return label without an open case?

Definitely tell the complainant that she should open a Dispute which will allow her to receive the Return Shipping Label.

 

It just strike me as unlikely that manufacturer's samples sealed at the factory would be "fake" and "almost empty".

 

By demanding, ever so politely and sweetly,  that she open the Dispute, which puts her on eBay's radar, she is likely to go away. If not - you are willing to refund on return in any case and the label really will be easier to send.

 

Until she opens the Dispute, your only responses should be "I regret you are unhappy with your purchase. Please return for full refund."

Rinse. Repeat.

 

Don't Panic.

Until she opens the Dispute, it's up to her to return the purchase.

When she does return the items , you can refund and cancel "at buyer's request" if she does not open the Dispute.

If she opens the Dispute, and uses the Return Shipping Label, a prompt refund means your selling account remains clean of Defects.

Feedback is voluntary and does NOT affect your seller status with eBay.

You can Respond to any feedback she leaves. The most effective FB is calm and professional .

Let her show herself as a drooling anger monkey.

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How do I send a buyer prepaid return label without an open case?

Thanks for your replies. I'm going to go the have her open a dispute route. If she doesn't go through with opening or sending it back, then good. I've had a few that stop complaining when I tell the to return the item and nothing else is done. I'd rather not pay for a shipping label she may or not use.

 

"If she opens the Dispute, and uses the Return Shipping Label, a prompt refund means your selling account remains clean of Defects."

This is true, no defects if I refund promptly?

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@natalie*rose*designs wrote:

Thanks for your replies. I'm going to go the have her open a dispute route. If she doesn't go through with opening or sending it back, then good. I've had a few that stop complaining when I tell the to return the item and nothing else is done. I'd rather not pay for a shipping label she may or not use.

 

"If she opens the Dispute, and uses the Return Shipping Label, a prompt refund means your selling account remains clean of Defects."

This is true, no defects if I refund promptly?


No unresolved return defect, but it does count against your return metrics.  If you have more than 10 returns in any single category in a year your FVFs may go up.

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@femmefan1946 wrote:

Definitely tell the complainant that she should open a Dispute which will allow her to receive the Return Shipping Label.

 

It just strike me as unlikely that manufacturer's samples sealed at the factory would be "fake" and "almost empty".

 

By demanding, ever so politely and sweetly,  that she open the Dispute, which puts her on eBay's radar, she is likely to go away. If not - you are willing to refund on return in any case and the label really will be easier to send.

 

Until she opens the Dispute, your only responses should be "I regret you are unhappy with your purchase. Please return for full refund."

Rinse. Repeat.

 

Don't Panic.

Until she opens the Dispute, it's up to her to return the purchase.

When she does return the items , you can refund and cancel "at buyer's request" if she does not open the Dispute.

If she opens the Dispute, and uses the Return Shipping Label, a prompt refund means your selling account remains clean of Defects.

Feedback is voluntary and does NOT affect your seller status with eBay.

You can Respond to any feedback she leaves. The most effective FB is calm and professional .

Let her show herself as a drooling anger monkey.


NO!

 

There are several ways to get a shipping label to a buyer if they need to return sometime.  Some have given ideas already here and there are more if anyone is interested.  I always use paypal.com/shipnow.

 

As you are aware, when a SNAD is opened, no matter the outcome, that SNAD counts against the seller in the Service Metrics.  So to advise another member to have a buyer open a claim BEFORE they can take care of them not only is advising a seller to HURT their own account but to cause the buyer even effort in a situation that needs to be made as easy as possible on the buyer.

 

I do NOT offer my buyers better customer service because they open a claim.  Whether there is a claim in place or not, by buyers receive the same level of care.  Which for me has always been a high bar.  

 

If you are willing to take a return on something, it is just not necessary to have a claim in place to take care of your buyer.

 

Now if you feel that something is off, then you may very well want them to open a claim so that it is all on the record.  But if you are comfortable with what the buyer has said and what the buyer wants, a claim should not be necessary to provide them with good customer service.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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What does the buyer's feedback LEFT look like? Any signs of trouble? Lots of negs?

 

I wondering why the buyer just didn't open a SNAD, since Ebay puts the return button squarely in the buyer's face. They may have lost their MBG protection because of too many cases.

 

Just a thought...

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.


We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did. - Thomas Sowell
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For a $10 item you are better off just refunding the amount via Paypal and abandoning the item with the buyer.

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@southern*sweet*tea wrote:

What does the buyer's feedback LEFT look like? Any signs of trouble? Lots of negs?

 

I wondering why the buyer just didn't open a SNAD, since Ebay puts the return button squarely in the buyer's face. They may have lost their MBG protection because of too many cases.

 

Just a thought...


I can't speak to this buyer, but in my experience, when this has happened to me, my buyers have just preferred to work directly with me.  They didn't see the need for Ebay to be involved.  In all of these situations I've had over the years, I've only had a couple that my gut told me there was something not quite right.

 

I find that most buyers are honest people.  So most times I just take care of whatever their request is and we move on.  It has never presented an issue for me.  As I said before, opening a claim will not change my level of customer service one little bit.  With or without a claim, I respond to my customers the same.

 

Now on the few I've had over the years that gave me reason for pause.  Even before this pesky Service Metrics policy, I requested the buyer open a SNAD and then I would process from there.  On these, I don't remember not even one buyer ever actually opening the claim.  So my gut was right, they were just trying to take advantage of me.  But I never do this lightly.  The buyer has to give me a good reason to feel this way.  

 

Certainly it could be that a buyer has too many cases.  But when you view the FB that a buyer leaves for others, you should be able to get a sense of what this buyer is like.  

 

Experience is really a good think when trying to decide what is the best approach.  It is hard to explain until you have been selling awhile and had various situations to work through.  I don't think there is a right or wrong answer here.  The variables can be quite big.  But my gut is usually a good indicator for me.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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@mam98031 wrote:

@femmefan1946 wrote:

Definitely tell the complainant that she should open a Dispute which will allow her to receive the Return Shipping Label.

 

It just strike me as unlikely that manufacturer's samples sealed at the factory would be "fake" and "almost empty".

 

By demanding, ever so politely and sweetly,  that she open the Dispute, which puts her on eBay's radar, she is likely to go away. If not - you are willing to refund on return in any case and the label really will be easier to send.

 

Until she opens the Dispute, your only responses should be "I regret you are unhappy with your purchase. Please return for full refund."

Rinse. Repeat.

 

Don't Panic.

Until she opens the Dispute, it's up to her to return the purchase.

When she does return the items , you can refund and cancel "at buyer's request" if she does not open the Dispute.

If she opens the Dispute, and uses the Return Shipping Label, a prompt refund means your selling account remains clean of Defects.

Feedback is voluntary and does NOT affect your seller status with eBay.

You can Respond to any feedback she leaves. The most effective FB is calm and professional .

Let her show herself as a drooling anger monkey.


NO!

 

There are several ways to get a shipping label to a buyer if they need to return sometime.  Some have given ideas already here and there are more if anyone is interested.  I always use paypal.com/shipnow.

 

As you are aware, when a SNAD is opened, no matter the outcome, that SNAD counts against the seller in the Service Metrics.  So to advise another member to have a buyer open a claim BEFORE they can take care of them not only is advising a seller to HURT their own account but to cause the buyer even effort in a situation that needs to be made as easy as possible on the buyer.

 

I do NOT offer my buyers better customer service because they open a claim.  Whether there is a claim in place or not, by buyers receive the same level of care.  Which for me has always been a high bar.  

 

If you are willing to take a return on something, it is just not necessary to have a claim in place to take care of your buyer.

 

Now if you feel that something is off, then you may very well want them to open a claim so that it is all on the record.  But if you are comfortable with what the buyer has said and what the buyer wants, a claim should not be necessary to provide them with good customer service.


Just curious as to how long a USPS label is good for after purchase? Is there a time limit on how long the label is valid after purchase?

I have done this with UPS labels and I think they have a significant timeframe in which they remain valid to be used.

 

What about a USPS label. How long are they valid?

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How do I send a buyer prepaid return label without an open case?

Just curious as to how long a USPS label is good for after purchase? Is there a time limit on how long the label is valid after purchase?

I have done this with UPS labels and I think they have a significant timeframe in which they remain valid to be used.

 

What about a USPS label. How long are they valid?

 

I believe it is a week, but I'm not positive.  In cases where you have created a label in the Claims system on Ebay, your account is NOT charged until the label is actually used.

 

If you create a label to ship something and you find the need to cancel it so you can be refunded for what you paid for the label, it takes about 30 days for the refund to happen as they take their time to make sure the label does not actually get used.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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@natalie*rose*designs wrote:

I sold an item (perfume samples), the buyer contacted me they were weak and fake, and one was almost empty. These were manufactures' samples, wrapped in a non-see through wrapping by the manufacturer so I had no idea that one was almost empty. Anyway she contacted me stating the above and wrote " You can take these back."

She seemed kinda angry about this. Ok, since it was only a $10 item I replied that she could send them back to me and I'd refund upon receipt. I also said since they were wrapped I had no idea that one was empty and I was sorry.

The next message was "

"I’ll need a prepaid label with tracking as proof I mailed it back. I will provide the bubble mailer envelope."

How do I send her a prepaid label? I've looked around can't find a way to do it, unless a case has been opened. Am I missing something or do I need her to open a case?  It was very generous of her to provide a bubble mailer (probably the one I shipped it with, lol).


easiest way purchase the label online, save it as pdf, email the pdf to her, she prints it, tapes it to box and mails it back to you.

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@dasarock wrote:

@natalie*rose*designs wrote:

I sold an item (perfume samples), the buyer contacted me they were weak and fake, and one was almost empty. These were manufactures' samples, wrapped in a non-see through wrapping by the manufacturer so I had no idea that one was almost empty. Anyway she contacted me stating the above and wrote " You can take these back."

She seemed kinda angry about this. Ok, since it was only a $10 item I replied that she could send them back to me and I'd refund upon receipt. I also said since they were wrapped I had no idea that one was empty and I was sorry.

The next message was "

"I’ll need a prepaid label with tracking as proof I mailed it back. I will provide the bubble mailer envelope."

How do I send her a prepaid label? I've looked around can't find a way to do it, unless a case has been opened. Am I missing something or do I need her to open a case?  It was very generous of her to provide a bubble mailer (probably the one I shipped it with, lol).


easiest way purchase the label online, save it as pdf, email the pdf to her, she prints it, tapes it to box and mails it back to you.


or you could convert the pdf label to picture file  attach it to ebay msg to her since all correspondence etc is supposed to go thru ebay.  (which is what i do)

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@m60driver wrote:

For a $10 item you are better off just refunding the amount via Paypal and abandoning the item with the buyer.


I sell many under $10.00 and I ALWAYS require a return for refund.  You would be shocked how many buyers just go away once they realize they are going to have to return the item to get their money back.  In around 70,000 transactions, I believe I've paid return shipping 3 times in.... 13 years I think.

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@mam98031 

 

If you are willing to take a return on something, it is just not necessary to have a claim in place to take care of your buyer.

 

And the last time I had a return request, that's exactly what I did.

But I also knew the (repeat) customer and was sure that her complaint was valid.  I actually refunded when I saw the return was in the mail. She's bought more books from me since.

 

In this particular case, I strongly suspect that there is nothing wrong with the perfume, that the product is authentic, and the reason the bottle is half empty is that the buyer used it.

A rude demand not only for a refund, but for a paid return, without any Dispute being opened?

 

Homie don't play that game.

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