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cbrokenshire · ‎10-07-2017

I just realized on some of my tranactions on Paypal were international buyers but had USA adrreses. I also noticed Paypal charges additionally for these type of tranactions, I have had about 6 or 7 of these kinds and of course I lose money from these type of buyers. I did block international buyers on Ebay. I specifically state in my listings please no international buyers and that I only ship within the US. Is there anyway to block these internatonal buyers with US addresses? They are costing me more money on listings. I would call Ebay but honestly half the time they have no clue what I am talking about and I feel the same about PayPal, there is language barrier so it makes it difficult to resolve my issue.

slippinjimmy · ‎10-07-2017

@partial*eclipse wrote:
@duchess-at-speakeasy wrote:
Paypal allows you to prevent payments from non-U.S. Paypal accounts. It does not matter where the ship-to address is..... But if the Paypal account is from outside the U.S., the potential customer cannot pay. The part about non-U.S. currencies is not relevant. ....
The PayPal option is called "Allow payments sent to me in a currency I do not hold."

Which will do absolutely nothing. If your listing is in US Dollars that is the ONLY currency a buyer can send you unless they use Send Money via PayPal and do not use eBay checkout.

You can also block non-US PayPal accounts but that won't prevent buyers from purchasing it will only prevent them from paying AFTER they have purchased (might work with IPR) at which point you have to do a cancellation.

Why anyone wants to forego a sale simply because of an extra 1% fee is something I simply don't understand.

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Into your life it will creep

nowthatsjustducky · ‎10-07-2017

Send them my way. I will gladly have them as customers. Their money is just as good to me as anyone else's. I certainly won't turn down their patronage just because I have to pay a little more in fees.

If it works, sell it. If it works well, sell it for more. If it doesn't work, quadruple the price and sell it as an antique.

-- Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #80

nowthatsjustducky · ‎10-07-2017

Ah, belgium... Figures someone else would have called dibs on them before I could post. 😛

If it works, sell it. If it works well, sell it for more. If it doesn't work, quadruple the price and sell it as an antique.

-- Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #80

luckythewinner · ‎10-07-2017

@cbrokenshire wrote:
I also noticed Paypal charges additionally for these type of tranactions, I have had about 6 or 7 of these kinds and of course I lose money from these type of buyers. I

When you say that "lose money" on these transactions, are you saying that you don't like the higher cross-border fee, or are you saying that the cross-border fee actually makes the transaction unprofitable?

nowthatsjustducky · ‎10-07-2017

It comes across as stepping over dollar bills to save pennies.

If it works, sell it. If it works well, sell it for more. If it doesn't work, quadruple the price and sell it as an antique.

-- Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #80

cbrokenshire · ‎10-07-2017

The PaypPal fees are higher, it is usually 2.9% plus .30 but with people that are purchasing from another country the fee is a bit higher. I am simply selling some items in my house so I am not a business. So far I have lost some money because PayPal charges a higher fee for those transactions. When you are selling several items that fall under this circumstance it adds up, it may not seem like much to others but to me it is.

cbrokenshire · ‎10-07-2017

Sorry but when I am simply selling items from my home the additional fees do add up. I am not a business of any sort just trying to make some extra money, businesses may be okay with this but I am not. I even state in my listing please no international buyers but these buyers go around this request by having a US address. Plus I have found they are the most difficult as well, one buyer asked if I could wait for his payment by 4 days so he could bid on my other items and save on shipping. I obligated and guess what? He did not bid on any closing auctions, I requested he pay which he did but stated sorry he forgot about my auctions. So in summary I tried to be flexible and he just "forgot" to bid.

cbrokenshire · ‎10-07-2017

I will say this as I have said to others that have responded, I am not a business and simply selling items out of my home so all these items do add up when the fees are increased on these types of transactions. I only asked for help on this forum and am getting flack for not wanting international buyers. Others may be okay with this but I am not. What I do not understand is why others can't simply respond to my question and not put their two cents in, if I wanted that I would have asked for that.

cbrokenshire · ‎10-07-2017

Nope just simply wanted help on this forum and am getting flack for not wanting international buyers. I am not a business but am selling from my home so yes I would like to save money since it addds up. If I save $10, why wouldn't I want that $10 in my pocket instead of PayPal's pocket???

cynthealee2 · ‎10-07-2017

@cbrokenshire wrote:
The PaypPal fees are higher, it is usually 2.9% plus .30 but with people that are purchasing from another country the fee is a bit higher. I am simply selling some items in my house so I am not a business. So far I have lost some money because PayPal charges a higher fee for those transactions. When you are selling several items that fall under this circumstance it adds up, it may not seem like much to others but to me it is.

It costs nothing to change your paypal to a business account.

They can buy from you because they are using drop shippers for their addresses, and you do not have the currency thing blocked in PayPal.

MOST sellers that put "no international buyers" in their listings simply don't want the hassle of shipping out of country, buyers know this, so they use 3rd party shippers to have a USA addy.

Only thing the blocks on eBay do is stop the ones with international shipping addresses.

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cbrokenshire · ‎10-07-2017

Thank you for your answer I appreciate it.

jonathankirkland · ‎10-07-2017

@cbrokenshire wrote:
Thank you for your answer I appreciate it.

Something I am surprised no one has mentioned yet:

If you setup buy-it-now, fixed price listings instead of auctions for items you have a pretty good idea what their price is, you can avoid all this international non-sense by simply using the Advanced Listing Tool and selecting "immediate payment required". Even if you don't have a great idea, you could over price them a ittle bit and allow for "Best Offer".

I had the same issues you did, with international buyers buying my stuff and I was at first worried about being scammed and didn't want the headaches of it all, but then the more pressing issue became that they were either a) paying with an e-check in an attempt to get me to ship without paying first or b) it was just taking too long for the payment to clear that it was not worth my time.

Since I have switched to "immediate payment required" and I use only fixed price, buy-it-now listings, I have not had a SINGLE international buyer using a freight forwarding company successfully purchase anything from me.

My guess is this block has thrwarted all of the scammers, and even any of the legit ones that try to get through I'm assuming for whatever reason are unable to pay immediatley.

I hope this helps you somewhat!

cynthealee2 · ‎10-07-2017

That does nothing...

Depending on the type of 3rd party shippers you'd never even know it was bought and paid for by some one in Japan.

Some of the 3rd party shippers are shooting stars with thier feedback left and recieved.

Some take the listings YOU made, put them on their site in w/e countries they are shipping for. Buyer clicks the buy link on the NEW site, 3rd party shipper then goes to your listing buys your item (with thier US dollars), you ship it to some little town in Idaho. 3rd party shipper then slaps a new label on the package and off it goes.

Others set up a service, pay me and I will buy your item with my US dollars, get the item shipped to my US address, and then once I get the item I will ship it on to you.

Nothing wrong with ANY of the above, and nothing eBay illegal about it either. Nothing I outlined above is stopped by IPR either. You have no idea if any one out of country got your items or not... you simply know that IPR got rid of the e-checks.

The OP (opening poster) wanted to avoid the extra on the paypal charge... her choice, her business, the other posters told her how I just put it a bit blunter without out the issues (why leave money on the table).

I've thought about being a third party shipper several times in the last few years... the fact that I have NO idea how to get the sites set up, or how to advertise I was willing to do it is all that stops me from doing it... Prolly make more money at it that I do now selling my own stuff 😄

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cynthealee2 · ‎10-07-2017

ROFL to top it all off eBay HELPS them in india copy our listings do a thread search you'll find it some where on these boards.

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jonathankirkland · ‎10-07-2017

@cynthealee2 wrote:
That does nothing...

Depending on the type of 3rd party shippers you'd never even know it was bought and paid for by some one in Japan.

Some of the 3rd party shippers are shooting stars with thier feedback left and recieved.

Some take the listings YOU made, put them on their site in w/e countries they are shipping for. Buyer clicks the buy link on the NEW site, 3rd party shipper then goes to your listing buys your item (with thier US dollars), you ship it to some little town in Idaho. 3rd party shipper then slaps a new label on the package and off it goes.

Others set up a service, pay me and I will buy your item with my US dollars, get the item shipped to my US address, and then once I get the item I will ship it on to you.

Actually, it does. It stops your listing from being tied up with a nonsense pending payment from an international buyer. That was my whole point.