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southern*sweet*tea · ‎10-13-2017

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/fire-santa-rosa-drone-USPS-mail-truck-12271107.php

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.

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llllady · ‎10-13-2017

I don't have speakers hooked up to the desktop, but you don't need audio to understand the devastation in that video. Heart-wrenching for sure. 😞

“It took me quite a long time to develop a voice, and now that I have it, I am not going to be silent” ― Madeleine K. Albright

Great! 45.8% down over the same time last year with 2x+ items listed. Are you impressed? I'm certainly not!

mistwomandancing · ‎10-13-2017

I was amazed to see everything burned completely to the ground with nothing left standing at various levels here and there. And also, that while everything was burned down, including most of the trees, there were mailboxes left standing that he put mail into.

tomuchstuff5 · ‎10-13-2017

Heartbreaking is the only way to describe this. An entire residential neighborhood. I hope everyone was safely away. Worse than our hurricanes. Nothing left to dry out.

My heart and prayers go out to these families.

retrose1 · ‎10-13-2017

@tomuchstuff5 wrote:
Heartbreaking is the only way to describe this. An entire residential neighborhood. I hope everyone was safely away. Worse than our hurricanes. Nothing left to dry out.

My heart and prayers go out to these families.

In many areas, they didn't.

And one town did not bother to sound any alarm because they didn't want to create panic.

I am surprised they let a mail truck through, between danger of still burning areas and potential looters, and that they are finding bodies in the rubble, law enforcements wants to control the areas.

(*Bleep*)

ersatz_sobriquet · ‎10-13-2017

Seems completely irresponsible of the USPS to deliver mail to burned out houses mailboxes. Obviously those people are not going to be thinking they need to pick up the mail today. USPS should be holding all mail for these people. Talk about looting! There may be credit cards and bank statements and who knows what in those mailboxes, and the mail may not be picked up for a week, because what person would expect their mail to be delivered under these circumstances?

Lillady, no words, just dramatic sweeping orchestra music like when watching a movie and there's the panoramic flyover.

tomuchstuff5 · ‎10-13-2017

I have to a certain extent been avoiding news channels for the last week. I am on overload with tragedy. Trying to focus on finances. That is horrifying and heartbreaking. Make my problems seem minuscule.

Hearts and Prayers for all.

odditiesandantiquities1 · ‎10-13-2017

My God that is so heart wrenching. To see standing homes on one side and devastation on the other.

retrose1 · ‎10-13-2017

@ersatz_sobriquet wrote:
Seems completely irresponsible of the USPS to deliver mail to burned out houses mailboxes. Obviously those people are not going to be thinking they need to pick up the mail today. USPS should be holding all mail for these people. Talk about looting! There may be credit cards and bank statements and who knows what in those mailboxes, and the mail may not be picked up for a week, because what person would expect their mail to be delivered under these circumstances?
Lillady, no words, just dramatic sweeping orchestra music like when watching a movie and there's the panoramic flyover.

But how many ebay sellers will panic if there is no delivery scan within the required time and blame the PO for it?

(*Bleep*)

a_c_green · ‎10-13-2017

@ersatz_sobriquet wrote:
Seems completely irresponsible of the USPS to deliver mail to burned out houses mailboxes. Obviously those people are not going to be thinking they need to pick up the mail today. USPS should be holding all mail for these people.

I would need to see the video again on a better monitor to be sure, but in at least some of those shots, there appeared to be undamaged houses on the opposite side of the street, so if their zoning requires all mailboxes to be on one side of the street (the burnt side), then that's what the deliveries were for.

Otherwise I agree that it makes zero sense to be delivering anything to those addresses.

Sad to see what appears to be a 1956 Chevy 210 wagon in the video splash screen, burnt to a crisp. The irony is that it's not replaceable, unlike everything around it that can be rebuilt.

odditiesandantiquities1 · ‎10-13-2017

@retrose1 wrote:
@ersatz_sobriquet wrote:
Seems completely irresponsible of the USPS to deliver mail to burned out houses mailboxes. Obviously those people are not going to be thinking they need to pick up the mail today. USPS should be holding all mail for these people. Talk about looting! There may be credit cards and bank statements and who knows what in those mailboxes, and the mail may not be picked up for a week, because what person would expect their mail to be delivered under these circumstances?
Lillady, no words, just dramatic sweeping orchestra music like when watching a movie and there's the panoramic flyover.
But how many ebay sellers will panic if there is no delivery scan within the required time and blame the PO for it?

I can't help but say I did think the same thing.

muttlymob · ‎10-13-2017

@ersatz_sobriquet wrote:
Seems completely irresponsible of the USPS to deliver mail to burned out houses mailboxes. Obviously those people are not going to be thinking they need to pick up the mail today. USPS should be holding all mail for these people. Talk about looting! There may be credit cards and bank statements and who knows what in those mailboxes, and the mail may not be picked up for a week, because what person would expect their mail to be delivered under these circumstances?
Lillady, no words, just dramatic sweeping orchestra music like when watching a movie and there's the panoramic flyover.

If you actually READ the article in that link, it explains why the mail is being delivered.

Mail was being held at the PO for that neighborhood. Some of the residents were unable to get to the PO to pick up their mail so they requested that it be delivered if mailboxes were still standing, and they could pick it up when they were allowed back to the remains of their homes. The neighborhood at the time of the video was not open to the public.

In short the mail delivery was being done at special request of some of the residents. That is not irresponsible.

muttlymob · ‎10-13-2017

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/12/557324350/neither-snow-nor-rain-nor-heat-watch-mai...

An answer comes from the San Jose Mercury News, which reports that residents had requested the mail to be left at their addresses, rather than keeping it at a central office. The newspaper relays this statement from USPS San Francisco District Manager Noemi Luna:

"This is an example of the long standing relationship that has been established between our carriers and their customers based on trust. The carrier in question was honoring a request by a few customers who were being let back in the fire zone to retrieve personal items. A few customers asked the carrier to leave their mail if the mailbox was still standing because they could not get to the annex to retrieve it."