09-16-2017 11:16 AM
I have been a seller for over 10 years, and recently began using the Global Shipping Program.
Over the past 2 years that I have opted in, I have not had any issues in selling my items, which are vintage electronics and vintage music gear.
Recently, the GSC began holding my guitar amplifier and radio tubes as restricted items.
Yes they refund the buyer, but I am losing customers over this. Selling outside the GSP has resulted in a lot of headaches, and I would like to continue using it, however the GSP needs to review it's protocyl
and remove radio and guitar amplifier tubes in the "Vintage Tubes & Tube Sockets" catagory from it's list of restricted exports. These are simply electronic radio and amplifier parts, no country restricts their importation. I've made this suggestion many times to eBay support reps to submit to eBay, but I don't expect change to come from that. Does anybody have the same issue?
09-16-2017 11:48 AM
Was the country China?
09-16-2017 11:57 AM
Country Conditions for Mailing - China
Prohibitions (
Radio receivers, transmitters or receivers of all kinds, walkie-talkies and parts thereof; valves, antennae, etc.
"A valve amplifier or tube amplifier is a type of electronic amplifier that uses vacuum tubes to increase the amplitude or power of a signal." Wiki
09-16-2017 12:06 PM
09-19-2017 11:54 PM
What's the benefit of using the Global Shipping Program (GSP) ? I see no benefit. Custom forms are pretty simple. I fill out about a dozen a month. They charge a lot for lousy packaging, and may very well dispose your item. I'm on several vintage electronics forums, and some idiots at Pitney-Bowes thinks all tubes contain mercury ! I believe they're confusing the getter flash for mercury. I hope GSP goes belly up. Its a terrible program. Just don't use it.
09-20-2017 01:13 AM
09-20-2017 01:20 AM - edited 09-20-2017 01:22 AM
One reason.
Seller accountability.
If I ship internationally using my own shipping, literally the only way I can be sure I'm not scammed is if I use Priority Express International with restricted delivery(ID required), and fully insured.
I have had many cases where the item was delivered WITH tracking AND signature confirmation, and the buyer opened a case and said they never got the item, and it wasn't them who signed for it. Guess who is on the hook?
GSP takes all of that **bleep** out of my area of responsibility, and they insure the item. If the buyer pulls a scam, eBay is responsible. I know it's expensive for customers, but I would rather lose a few broke customers than lose my business from being scammed until I'M broke. I've been selling for over 10 years, and for the first time eBay offers a system that puts the ball in their court, and every body doesn't want to use it. I personally was very happy with GSP up until now. If they keep restricting my items I'm going to have to give up worldwide shipping competely.
10-16-2017 02:41 PM
GSP was a good idea that has gone bad, before GSP I had cut off all international sales due to scammers, now it appears I will have to cut off GSP, GSP is restricting vacuum tubes to ALL international countries, and now they have restricted the last two tube radios I sent - never has this happened before, and from talking with other sellers of vintage electronics it now appears GSP will restrict any item with vacuum tubes to any country, yes I'm loosing customers and international sales have nearly dried up, eBay and GSP need to pull their collective heads from their a$$, these items are not restriced from all countries!!
10-23-2017 04:36 AM
They are likely never going to change this policy.
I have spoken with someone from the Global Shipping Program,
who responded saying that "Tubes have radioactive metals and toxic gasses" inside of them.
Are they kidding with this? Tubes are supplimented with inert gasses that help maintain their vacuum.
If they are banning tubes from shipment, they need to start banning all lightbulbs too.
One mercury lightbulb contains more toxic substances than 1,000,000 tubes combined.
03-19-2018 07:17 AM
I recently bought 2 pairs of tubes from 2 different American sellers. I asked for them to be sent to my residence in Canada. After about 9 days I got a "restricted item" email sent from Ebay/Global shipping about one of the tubes. This was a "made in Japan" 6L6GC tube. The three other tubes were all made in USA. The USA-made tubes were all shipped... The seller was of course, totally puzzled. **bleep**!? I repaid for the individual tube (costing me additional money) and put a relative's American address to try to solve the problem. I believe this has solved the problem... Which is to say, the buyer (me) solved the problem by being creative, proactive and absorbing additional expense. This is NUTS! And most buyers will not do this...
Ebay's "partner", Pitney-Bowes, must be laughing all the way to the bank. However when buyers are ignored and their transactions are automatically reversed for completely bizarre reasons, this gets folks upset... Look for more sales losses for American sellers who would like to pick up their "foreign sales" numbers, not decrease them. Incidentally, a similar thing happened to me when I bought a 1970s model of Japanese guitar that I had spent years looking for... The seller never answered my emails and the guitar went off (presumably) to another buyer. Not a way to make Ebay fans!
03-19-2018 07:29 AM
There are always reasons why,take a look at DHL,they are worldwide shipper and expaning their US business.
you can get a discount by joining INXPRESS.
If DHL said no to your items,then it is better not to sell overseas
09-01-2018 07:03 AM
They say it is their 3rd party shippers policy. Its all countires at this point. You would think a policy change would occur as ebay loses money refunding the buyer and letting the seller keep the sale money.
They need to restrict "Radio Tube" from any GSP listing description, Just ship internationally on your own.
Would save a lot of time and headaches. I'm taking all of my tube listings off the GSP program for now.
09-01-2018 08:50 AM
@lakeland_music wrote:They are likely never going to change this policy.
I have spoken with someone from the Global Shipping Program,who responded saying that "Tubes have radioactive metals and toxic gasses" inside of them.
Are they kidding with this? Tubes are supplimented with inert gasses that help maintain their vacuum.
If they are banning tubes from shipment, they need to start banning all lightbulbs too.
One mercury lightbulb contains more toxic substances than 1,000,000 tubes combined.
This is probably what they are going by -
That is from the GSP banned items list - click here to review this list
You will find this under the prohibited items list toward the bottom.
Good Luck Selling!
04-26-2019 04:33 AM
My guess is that they assume that since a ampule is glass and contains a substance, that it is no different than a vacuum tube. I'm wonder how many of these people think $2 bills are also counterfeit.
We are talking people making rules about things that they know nothing about and they don't care.
My guess is that it might have something to do with The Restriction of Hazardous Substances Directive 2002/95/EC. As this applies to electronics, and there are many items that do not comply with this, and the best thing I can think of is the exemptions to this directive in regards to electronic parts.
There probably are some ways around this particular carrier, and I would assume so as I do occasionally order parts from Russia, Poland, and many other former eastern block countries to get Nixie and other electronic parts.
There no tubes made in the USA currently, new tubes come from either China or Europe where they are still being made. Perhaps some countries have bans on items that are not compliant. To me personally I see no risk even if they are coated with lead as I don't cook food with them and I don't have any children in the household. The only risk with lead and other materials is when people handle them and do not wash their hands before eating.
Also if these same rules were applied to people there would be discrimination lawsuits, as mercury vapor rectifier tubes have mercury in them, and since they are a tube that is saying all tubes are mercury vapor rectifier tubes when that is clearly not the case. It would be no different if someone were to say one human is a terrorist so we had to lock them away, and since one was a terrorist all are terrorists... That is the same logic that is clearly false. It is also goes along with saying that all people of the same color look alike... They probably think that also, however I personally know that is not the case.
It is clearly a case where people are too lazy to use their brain to think or know the difference between one item and another. As such they make others suffer for their unwillingness to use their brains for something other than cause problems to other people. The best way to deal with such people is to not do business with them and find other ways of doing business. That way you and your customers will be happy.
BTW the only times that I personally have had a problem is when items either were not sent or they were blocked before they could be sent. Then locally I have a problem with carriers from time to time, as they look for excuses not to deliver the mail such as the name of the street and the number on the street are reversed... That was the last one... Also often incomplete information is entered into the postal system, and the information is wrong. Such as mixing up a postal zone in Germany of the sender with the zip code of the recipient in the USA.
04-26-2019 05:39 AM