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I would like to sell an item for $10.00. Shipping costs me $5.00. If I sell for $15.00 with free shipping does ebay charge Final Value fees on the shipping? If so why use free shipping.  Would I be better off selling the item for $5.00 and charging $10.00 for shipping?

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Yes, eBay charges final value fees on shipping.

 

Your fees are the same 1.50 if you

sell for 10.00 plus 5.00 shipping   (1 dollar plus 50 cents)

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if you sell for 15.00 (1.50 fee) and free shipping.

 

Lynn


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eBay charges the fvf on the shipping cost so no matter where you put the shipping fee you will pay the same fvf

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" If so why use free shipping. Would I be better off selling the item for $5.00 and charging $10.00 for shipping?"

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Since your fees with eBay are the same,

many of us believe in doing the free shipping.

 

Why?

Many buyers sort to find Free shipping sellers first.

The majority of buyers online prefer free shipping.

Also, free shipping is supposed to give you a boost in search visibility here.

 

Lynn


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@thefinalcast wrote:

I would like to sell an item for $10.00. Shipping costs me $5.00. If I sell for $15.00 with free shipping does ebay charge Final Value fees on the shipping? If so why use free shipping.  Would I be better off selling the item for $5.00 and charging $10.00 for shipping?


Hi, 

You will get charged a final value fee on the total cost - item plus shipping - no matter how you list it. eBay charges a total value fee for this exact reason... Sellers were making the item cost low to avoid final value fees... Then charging outrageous shipping prices. So, now, we pay on the total -- item plus shipling. 

 

For items at that price point, if they have a low remorse return chance, I'd offer free shipling. Free shipping might get your listing better placement in search results.

 

Take care, 😊

Cecily
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@thefinalcast wrote:  Would I be better off selling the item for $5.00 and charging $10.00 for shipping?

This one reason ebay started charging a fvf on the shipping.Sellers were  shorting ebay on fees by putting item price in shipping so seller avoided the fee on the higher item price j


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@thefinalcast wrote:

I would like to sell an item for $10.00. Shipping costs me $5.00. If I sell for $15.00 with free shipping does ebay charge Final Value fees on the shipping? If so why use free shipping.  Would I be better off selling the item for $5.00 and charging $10.00 for shipping?


No, you wouldn't be better off.

 

The reason why ebay started charging final value fee on shipping is because some sellers were taking advantage.

 

For example, a seller would list a new washing machine for  $0.99 buy it now, but the shipping costs were $500+,  and ebay only got the fvf from the $0.99.

 

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@myescape wrote:

@thefinalcast wrote:  Would I be better off selling the item for $5.00 and charging $10.00 for shipping?

This one reason ebay started charging a fvf on the shipping.Sellers were  shorting ebay on fees by putting item price in shipping so seller avoided the fee on the higher item price j


That was one reason, but not likely the biggest reason.  Most other similar sites charged FVF on S&H already and Ebay was just following in line.  That coupled with that whenever Ebay wants to do a fee increase they do there very best to stay away from actually increasing the FVF on the product rate.  It gives them a good way of saying they didn't raise FVFs on the products sold here.  While on the very surface that may be true, but they have gained fees in other areas.  

 

Certainly there have been times where Ebay has raised the FVF on the product, but there have been more fees collected for other things over the years.  Ebay comes up with new ways to earn fees for various services and or features.  Promoted Listings, Stores, S&H, etc.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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@thefinalcast wrote:

I would like to sell an item for $10.00. Shipping costs me $5.00. If I sell for $15.00 with free shipping does ebay charge Final Value fees on the shipping? If so why use free shipping.  Would I be better off selling the item for $5.00 and charging $10.00 for shipping?


In the long run , it does not matter. 

 

$15 with free shipping

eBay charges your account 10% of the sales price ($1.50) at the time of the sale. 

 

$10 plus $5 shipping

eBay charges your account 10% of the sales price ($1.00) at the time of the sale. 

eBay charges your account 10% of the shipping ($0.50) at the time the buyer pays. 

 

A big reason for the final value fee on shipping was so that there was financial penalty for offering free shipping. 

 

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@mam98031 wrote:

@myescape wrote:

@thefinalcast wrote:  Would I be better off selling the item for $5.00 and charging $10.00 for shipping?

This one reason ebay started charging a fvf on the shipping.Sellers were  shorting ebay on fees by putting item price in shipping so seller avoided the fee on the higher item price j


That was one reason, but not likely the biggest reason.  Most other similar sites charged FVF on S&H already and Ebay was just following in line.  That coupled with that whenever Ebay wants to do a fee increase they do there very best to stay away from actually increasing the FVF on the product rate.  It gives them a good way of saying they didn't raise FVFs on the products sold here.  While on the very surface that may be true, but they have gained fees in other areas.  

 

Certainly there have been times where Ebay has raised the FVF on the product, but there have been more fees collected for other things over the years.  Ebay comes up with new ways to earn fees for various services and or features.  Promoted Listings, Stores, S&H, etc.


It's seen as the main reason because it's the reason eBay gave when the change occurred.  eBay said it was to give buyers confidence in reasonable priced shipping and to reward sellers for free and low shipping.  image.png

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If you pay your carrier $5.00 for shipping, your shipping cost is $5.74 (ignoring PayPal's $0.30).  It is $5.00 divided by 0.871.  You should charge the buyer $5.74 to cover your $5.00 plus your eBay and Paypal fees.

 

 

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Although this is true, most buyers absolutely hate paying anything beyond exact postage only. If all costs are accounted for (not even considering any profit), the shipping charges star on the seller's feedback page takes a bath. Buyer feedback left also reflects this. They expect sellers to simply to absorb any extra costs related to shipping & handling.

My main reason for dumping free shipping is that in my category, many buyers will buy multiple items if I give a combined shipping discount. I ship relatively heavy items, so that can end up being a good incentive for a buyer to buy more than one listing.

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@moo*cow*corner wrote:

Although this is true, most buyers absolutely hate paying anything beyond exact postage only. If all costs are accounted for (not even considering any profit), the shipping charges star on the seller's feedback page takes a bath. Buyer feedback left also reflects this. They expect sellers to simply to absorb any extra costs related to shipping & handling.

My main reason for dumping free shipping is that in my category, many buyers will buy multiple items if I give a combined shipping discount. I ship relatively heavy items, so that can end up being a good incentive for a buyer to buy more than one listing.


IMHO some don't like a shipping cost beyond exact postage just because they don't understand that it actually costs more than that to ship.  Couple with that often times for whatever reason people have they don't see selling on Ebay as a real job.  Not one you want to pay for someone's time and service for.  I know there are lots of people that do respect that we are providing a service.  But there are lots out there that do not as well.

 

The fear that sellers have over offending these buyers that don't understand have cause some sellers to hurt themselves financially by only charging the exact postage and they don't even pick up the other costs in their product price.  So they take money out of their profit [their pocket] to appease some buyers.

 

From my point of view it is all about teaching the buyers.  Just as they need to get use to the ever increasing shipping costs.  Every year we need to raise rates to accommodate the USPS increases.  It takes time for buyers to adjust, but they will adjust.  Well at least most of them.

 

Offering Free Shipping is a great way for sellers to avoid these misunderstandings or concerns.  It doesn't work for every type of product, but it is a very good tool that sellers can use in many cases.  I find that it works great on my beads, craft supplies and fragrances, but not so much on my pattern books.

 

Just as you did, we all need to look at what we are selling and what the market will bear.  It is a fantastic choice for many things, but then no so much for others.  Each seller should research and find the answer for themselves.  Test it for a few months and then determine if it is the right approach for you and your products to offer Free shipping or not.  This isn't something you can test for a week or two.  You need to give it time.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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There is no advantage to listing as free shipping as opposed to separating the shipping costs out, fee wise; this is so neither way of listing incurs more fees.  This may encourage sellers to list as free shipping.

 

Some buyers go for free shipping; everyone loves the word, free. Some buyers prefer the transparency of seeing what the shipping will cost them.

 

Some sellers prefer to list as free shipping, others prefer to list with a separate shipping cost.

 

To each his own, as they say.  And wishing you great sales!

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Excellent post, Mam.

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