Fine Jewelry, Costume Jewelry and Watches Should All Be Separate

[maryelle.sell]

Hello - There should be a clear distinction between fine jewelry listings and costume jewelry listings. Real gold jewelry is not the same as "gold tone" and antique is not the same as "antique finish" and yet they all end up together. A real gold and silver antique necklace is grouped together with a $2.00 import. If someone is looking for a $2.00 necklace, they are not going to buy a 1200.00 necklace even if they come across it.

Words like real, genuine, gold, antique, etc. are used too loosely. Also, watches should be a separate category.  If someone is looking for a "necklace with a watch dial pendant", they don't want to look through 100 wrist watches to get there.

Once new guidlines and definitions are established, it should be a violation of ebay policies to list jewelry incorrectly.

Watches -  Antique, Modern

Fine Jewelry - Antique, Modern

Costume Jewelry

Thank you.

[dadsfloridatreasure]

There already are categories to distinguish between antique / vintage jewelry, and subcategories for fine and costume.  Same for watches.  There are categories for wristwatches, pocket watches, ring watches, and pendant watches.

What you're looking at might be the foreign made in China garbage that's been flooding the eBay market not caring what category they dump their product in.  They just care about making the sale, not satisfying you or I.

[ted_200]

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/jewellery-precious-metals-loose-beads...

Click on "Read Full Policy".

[emerald40]

I can tell you ebay does not enforce this with diamonds.

Sellers to get an advantage list enhanced diamonds in the natural categories, and do not put the word enhanced in the title.

Only when you scroll way down in the description do you learn it is enhanced.

[ted_200]

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@emerald40 wrote:

I can tell you ebay does not enforce this with diamonds.

Sellers to get an advantage list enhanced diamonds in the natural categories, and do not put the word enhanced in the title.

Only when you scroll way down in the description do you learn it is enhanced.

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I can tell you eBay does not enforce much of anything.

I expect OP will read that, and revise their comments to "Fine Jewelry, Costume Jewelry and Watches - eBay needs to enforce their policies". 

[emerald40]

I remember when ebay enacted that in May of 2016 I believe.

Some of it like with diamonds is great i they only would enforce it.

Other parts of it makes no sense, imo.

What makes a piece fine jewelry is the metal and the stone.  Not one or the other.

Fake stones in gold is not fine jewelry.  Neither is real stones in plated jewelry.  

[ted_200]

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@emerald40 wrote:

I remember when ebay enacted that in May of 2016 I believe.

Some of it like with diamonds is great i they only would enforce it.

Other parts of it makes no sense, imo.

What makes a piece fine jewelry is the metal and the stone.  Not one or the other.

Fake stones in gold is not fine jewelry.  Neither is real stones in plated jewelry.  

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It's less than ideal, and I think it's fair to expect there will never be perfect agreement on what to do, but at least they did something, and it covers "fake everything is not fine jewelry".  The problem is no enforcement.

A lab emerald in a 14K setting is probably closer to "fine jewelry" than a real snowflake obsidian in a sterling setting.  A green CZ in a plated setting that is marked 14K and referred to as a "gold and emerald" ring is fraud, no matter what category it gets listed in. 

[pjcdn2005]

I don't really understand why they allow what they do in the fine category.  I would think that fine jewelry would have a gemstone and a fine metal...not just one or the other.

[emerald40]

My family has been in a fine jewelry business for decades.

I have also worked retail in fine jewelry.

And yes it is both the metal and the stone.

Most stores have 3 categories for this - costume jewelry, fine jewelry, and what some stores call bridge jewelry.

IMO ebay did this because the costume jewelry categories were overflowing to capacity, so they shoved some things into the fine jewelry categories to even them out a bit.

[ted_200]

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@emerald40 wrote:

My family has been in a fine jewelry business for decades.

I have also worked retail in fine jewelry.

And yes it is both the metal and the stone.

Most stores have 3 categories for this - costume jewelry, fine jewelry, and what some stores call bridge jewelry.

IMO ebay did this because the costume jewelry categories were overflowing to capacity, so they shoved some things into the fine jewelry categories to even them out a bit.

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I hadn't read that policy page since the last overhaul (I gave up selling jewelry here years ago).  It's not very user friendly, and a bit overwhelming, if you ask me. 

Is natural turquoise a "fine" or a "fashion" stone?

Is "Ethnic, Regional, and Tribal" Fine or Fashion Jewelry?  If you go to the main jewelry landing page, and look at the left side refinement options, it's apparently neither.  In fact, it apparently doesn't exist on eBay at all. 

Now I'm starting to remember why I stopped selling jewelry here years ago.

[shoptalkid]

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@maryelle.sell wrote:

Hello - There should be a clear distinction between fine jewelry listings and costume jewelry listings. Real gold jewelry is not the same as "gold tone" and antique is not the same as "antique finish" and yet they all end up together. A real gold and silver antique necklace is grouped together with a $2.00 import. If someone is looking for a $2.00 necklace, they are not going to buy a 1200.00 necklace even if they come across it.

Words like real, genuine, gold, antique, etc. are used too loosely. Also, watches should be a separate category.  If someone is looking for a "necklace with a watch dial pendant", they don't want to look through 100 wrist watches to get there.

Once new guidlines and definitions are established, it should be a violation of ebay policies to list jewelry incorrectly.

Watches -  Antique, Modern

Fine Jewelry - Antique, Modern

Costume Jewelry

Thank you.

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eBay does have a category for costume jewelry.   They call it "fashion jewelry".