08-05-2017 07:57 PM
Just got a glass today...a replacement for one I bashed against the faucet years ago. Alana by Waterford. I knew right away that there ws something wrong, the weight was off, there was an oval 'chip' near the bottem, and it wasn't cut just pressed. And the sig is blurred. I think the oval flaw is where they spilled a drop of acid while doing the (probably fake) acid etched sig.
The color is yellow white not gray white like leaded glass.
I know Waterford is made in China now but this is ridiculous and cost me over 50 bucks. Already contacted the Seller.
I have to say that I have had good luck buying from China (don't spank me) I make jewelry. And rather than pay Joann a 100% or more markup I buy direct.
This, however, bothers me.
08-05-2017 08:02 PM
08-05-2017 08:06 PM
From the way moondog described it, I have no doubt it's fake.
08-05-2017 08:32 PM
Wow. I've never seen fake Waterford. There's the new cheaply made Waterford, easy stuff with no cut glass, but not the old patterns like your Alana. I have a collection of vintage Maureen.
There's no comparison to what you describe and vintage Waterford. It is always crystal clear, it is always heavy, solid, and the mark is extremely distinct and of course it is not pressed. It is not always marked though, two of my water goblets have no etch on the bottom but match the rest that do exactly.
Did you buy this glass from China?
08-05-2017 11:45 PM
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08-06-2017 12:06 AM
I have never seen fake Waterford either. I hate to say it, but I hope it really is fake and not a sign of future quality.
08-06-2017 12:13 AM
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08-06-2017 02:32 AM
You won't match old waterford with new you need to hunt down the old made in Ireland the new stuff is just not the same...
08-06-2017 07:11 AM
I take back my rapid "it must be fake" response, as in someone taking a piece of glass and trying to etch Waterford on the bottom. It could very easily be coming out of the back door of the Chinese Wateford-making-place. Like all of the designer bags that are almost but not quite correct.
My husband received a full set of expensive TaylorMade clubs from a businessman in China (we used to do a lot of business there and I have a closet of bizarre gifts - are they gold or are they not?). He gave them to someone else and the first time the someone else swung one of the clubs, the head flew off of the shaft.
They were produced at the TaylorMade plant but they weren't on the first line of production. Or second. Or third. More like the dark of night shift.
08-06-2017 08:20 AM - edited 08-06-2017 08:22 AM
@sharingtheland wrote:I take back my rapid "it must be fake" response, as in someone taking a piece of glass and trying to etch Waterford on the bottom. It could very easily be coming out of the back door of the Chinese Wateford-making-place. Like all of the designer bags that are almost but not quite correct.
My husband received a full set of expensive TaylorMade clubs from a businessman in China (we used to do a lot of business there and I have a closet of bizarre gifts - are they gold or are they not?). He gave them to someone else and the first time the someone else swung one of the clubs, the head flew off of the shaft.
They were produced at the TaylorMade plant but they weren't on the first line of production. Or second. Or third. More like the dark of night shift.
The real Waterford works in China does not have any apparatus for making molded glass. It could have been manufactured in the same neighborhood though! Or on a different floor in the same building. And there's no ruling out the possibility that a factory worker takes his expertise to another employer after hours.
I have some friends who went on a business trip in China and wanted to get some unique souvenirs that you can't buy in shops. They got a tour guide to take them shopping for fake Rolex watches. What they got was an incredible experience.
The guide dragged them by the arm through floor after floor of factories of every kind of fake imaginable, from plastic quartz movements with misspelled logos, all the way to clean rooms where workers were assembling clones that a jewelry store owner would have trouble telling from the real thing. They proceeded as far as they were comfortable before they felt that any further and the FTC would be lurking behind a door to bust them, and purchased some very nice watches that would fool anyone on the street.
Some districts in that part of the world deal exclusively in manufacturing fakes.
08-06-2017 09:10 AM
This. ^^^^ Many people here don't have any idea what is going on in Chinese manufacturing.
They've even figured out how to duplicate the Rolex sweep hand, which was always the first and obvious thing to look at for authenticity.
08-06-2017 09:12 AM
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