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car7025-mv8ky · ‎08-05-2018

Has anyone just ended all of their GTC listings and relisted them to see if it jumpstarts impressions? It would cost me over $800 to do this so I figured I better ask the board first. Its Sunday the 5th and I have just 1 sale today outta 16,233 listings!!! This is crazy! I've completely stopped adding new listings and I can tell ebay is also punishing me for it. its been a week since I last uploaded anything new and last week sales were completely garbage. I assume eBay wants me off their site. They are about to get their wish.

richard1rst · ‎08-05-2018

NO it will NOT cost you $800.00

Cancel it the day before it is set to expire, then list it as a new listing. There will be NO difference in the fees since you would have automatically paid a relisting fee when the GTC rolled over.

You might also want to take some time to see if you can freshen up the listing. Check your title, description, etc. Is there any way to improve it? Might as well as it won’t cost any extra.

The general opinion is that “new” listings get a better positioning than ”old” listings. I don’t think any one has any absolute proof of that but if the theory is valid then why not.

I routinely do just that for any of my older listings. But I think “all of them” might be overkill if any of them are fairly new.

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mam98031 · ‎08-05-2018

If you use the "Relist" function, on most listing that will not help you with what you are trying to do. When you Relist, the sales and impressions on the old listing follows the new Relisted listing. So it is NOT like a new listing, starting off fresh so to speak. The Relist function is great for a listing you have lots of watchers on or your have a good sales history on. For buyers that have their accounts set up to receive notification when a listing they are watching gets relisted, this is great. But you have no way of knowing how many of those watchers have their account set up to recieve the email.

The Sell Similar function is most likely the one you are actually looking for. That makes the listing appear new to the search engine. A couple of things to keep in mind when you use a Sell Similar. The information / quantity on your listing may not be correct if you have had any sales on the original listing. For example lets say your original listing had 10 items and 5 sold when you closed it or you ended it. Then you go to Sell Similar, it will revert back to the original quanity of 10, so watch out for that so you don't mess up your inventory amounts.

What the other poster suggested is great advice. I would never go in and close all my listings only to relist or sell similar them all. That kind of busy work I do not need and it isn't going to give you some large advantage over some other seller that isn't doing that. To me it is just a bunch of busy work.

I do like the other poster shared with you. I review my listing that are going to close in the next 24 to 48 hours and see if there are any that I want to end and then do a sell similar on to give them a fresh start. I find it much less time consuming and I'm not creating a bunch of busy work for myself.

I hope whatever you decide works out for you and gives you the desired result.

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chapeau-noir · ‎08-05-2018

If your items have been running for over 60 days, I would end and relist them.

Also, I know you have tons of listings, but I do know that if one stops listing, one sinks out of sight awfully quickly here. If I stop listing for as much as two days, my sales dry up.

So, yeah, try tweaking all of those listings a bit and start relisting (or sell similar) in batches.

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mam98031 · ‎08-05-2018

@chapeau-noir wrote:
If your items have been running for over 60 days, I would end and relist them.

Also, I know you have tons of listings, but I do know that if one stops listing, one sinks out of sight awfully quickly here. If I stop listing for as much as two days, my sales dry up.

So, yeah, try tweaking all of those listings a bit and start relisting (or sell similar) in batches.

Relisting does NOT give the listings a fresh start. You need to do a Sell Similar. There is NO need to "tweak" a listing when you Sell Similar. It may help if you are doing a Relist. But is is very important not to confuse a Relist with a Sell Similar. The two have different definitions on Ebay. Easy to make the words interchangeable, but then that is why it gets confusing for some people.

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cooltronix · ‎08-05-2018

richard1rst is correct, it does not cost you much if you end them before the get 'renewed' and GTC means renewed every 30 days.

Next is do NOT relist. List as similar item. Because when you relist you continue with the probably bad search ranking you had before. But list as similar will be treated as a new item by the search algorithm.

I did a little page for that, feel free to try it, and it's free. Try it on one or two listings first.

Have you tried other methods for better ranking? Price change? Category change?

Your images look perfect, can't improve that, but maybe a mobile description can help a little (many people use that nowadays). Like the listing below, the mobile description is the one below the price. You can use about 200 characters.

https://www.ebay.com/i/323292551132

Test your eBay search rank: https://ranktool.bid

reallynicestamps · ‎08-05-2018

When I was working full-time, I used GTC as a labour-saver and had no complaints about sales.

Since retirement, I have more time to massage my listings and that is one reason I switched to 30 day listings, leaving closed listings in my Unsold List for two weeks to a month before uploading them as Sell Similar.

But I don't end them all at once.

I allowed each to come within a few minutes (or hours) of closing then ended it manually.

Uploading is done daily, again manually.

I don't use the same order every month.

I relist ten to 15 items at a time, because the minimum number on a StoreView is 25 and that, in my opinion would show a customer many items similar to her interest, before switching to something entirely different. YMMV.

I want Search to often show my items as Newly Listed as well as About To End,since those are popular Searchs.

Best Match likes "new" listings and I believe that Sell Similar acts like a "new" listing.

I'm not sure how this experiment is working. It went well in 2017, but both 2016 and 2018 were low sales.

2016 because we Canadian sellers were faced with a huge upheaval when we could no longer list on dotCA in USD combined with a threatened lockout of Canada Post staff. (They have since fired the CEO and no further strife is expected.)

2018 because personal life meant several On Vacation periods for my Store when no one could buy.

So take my experience as you will.

car7025-mv8ky · ‎08-05-2018

thanks for the replies. Yeah I think I'll just ride it out and close shop if need be. it took me years n' years to get all my listings. Going through a tweating them isn't an option for me its not worth the time.

mam98031 · ‎08-05-2018

@car7025-mv8ky wrote:
thanks for the replies. Yeah I think I'll just ride it out and close shop if need be. it took me years n' years to get all my listings. Going through a tweating them isn't an option for me its not worth the time.

You do NOT have to teak them. Review my original post on this thread. It does not have to be labor intensive or time consuming for you.

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karthok.of.daolodus · ‎08-05-2018

@mam98031 wrote:
@chapeau-noir wrote:
If your items have been running for over 60 days, I would end and relist them.

Also, I know you have tons of listings, but I do know that if one stops listing, one sinks out of sight awfully quickly here. If I stop listing for as much as two days, my sales dry up.

So, yeah, try tweaking all of those listings a bit and start relisting (or sell similar) in batches.
Relisting does NOT give the listings a fresh start. You need to do a Sell Similar. There is NO need to "tweak" a listing when you Sell Similar. It may help if you are doing a Relist. But is is very important not to confuse a Relist with a Sell Similar. The two have different definitions on Ebay. Easy to make the words interchangeable, but then that is why it gets confusing for some people.

I think it's just relist/sell similar, i.e. do one or the other. Sell similar is good if you want to tweak the listing, but time gets short if you have a lot. In my other store I needed to take several hundred listings off GTC and move to 30 days - there's no bulk sell-similar so I ended up just relisting. It jump started a bunch of those listings and they sold - I think I 'rested' them for a couple of weeks, though.

Either/or, depending on time constraints, number of listings, etc.

If it's just a handful of listings I'll do sell similar.

karthok.of.daolodus · ‎08-05-2018

@car7025-mv8ky wrote:
thanks for the replies. Yeah I think I'll just ride it out and close shop if need be. it took me years n' years to get all my listings. Going through a tweating them isn't an option for me its not worth the time.

If you don't want to just relist, you could just do sell similar a batch at a time - 10 a day or something - don't tweak, just do sell similar.

mam98031 · ‎08-05-2018

@karthok.of.daolodus wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@chapeau-noir wrote:
If your items have been running for over 60 days, I would end and relist them.

Also, I know you have tons of listings, but I do know that if one stops listing, one sinks out of sight awfully quickly here. If I stop listing for as much as two days, my sales dry up.

So, yeah, try tweaking all of those listings a bit and start relisting (or sell similar) in batches.
Relisting does NOT give the listings a fresh start. You need to do a Sell Similar. There is NO need to "tweak" a listing when you Sell Similar. It may help if you are doing a Relist. But is is very important not to confuse a Relist with a Sell Similar. The two have different definitions on Ebay. Easy to make the words interchangeable, but then that is why it gets confusing for some people.
I think it's just relist/sell similar, i.e. do one or the other. Sell similar is good if you want to tweak the listing, but time gets short if you have a lot. In my other store I needed to take several hundred listings off GTC and move to 30 days - there's no bulk sell-similar so I ended up just relisting. It jump started a bunch of those listings and they sold - I think I 'rested' them for a couple of weeks, though.

Either/or, depending on time constraints, number of listings, etc.

If it's just a handful of listings I'll do sell similar.

There is absolutely no reason or need to "tweak" a listing that you do a Sell Similar on. And there is no need to "rest" listings for a couple weeks.

I gave a more complete explanation of the differences beteen doing a Relist of a Sell Similar in Post # 3 on this thread if you are interested.

And YES you CAN bulk post listings selecting Sell Similar. If you would like further help on how to do that, just ask. But yes you can in the Seller Hub. Or even the older My Ebay page.

When you just "relist" your listings as you describe above, you are NOT helping the placement in the search returns. When you "relist" a listing all the views / impressions follow the listing from the original listing you are reposting from.

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car7025-mv8ky · ‎08-06-2018

OK Thank you guys very much!!

hillbillymedia · ‎08-06-2018

@mam98031 wrote:
@car7025-mv8ky wrote:
thanks for the replies. Yeah I think I'll just ride it out and close shop if need be. it took me years n' years to get all my listings. Going through a tweating them isn't an option for me its not worth the time.
You do NOT have to teak them. Review my original post on this thread. It does not have to be labor intensive or time consuming for you.

I understand what you are saying but with the new catalog changes, the OP may have to tweak each ad depending on what cat. it`s in and how long it`s been listed for. A lot of changes have happened recently and if the OP hasn`t been keeping up in awhile, they may find they have a lot of "tweaking" to do.

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reallynicestamps · ‎08-07-2018

And there is no need to "rest" listings for a couple weeks.

I realize there is no need for the 'rest'.

but I actually have more listings available than I have Free or Discounted listings.

While I'm not really fussed about that, figuring that if I can't afford a 30 cent listing fee there is something wrong with my business plan, I amuses me.