mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@nh_sales_lv wrote:Do you understand Katzrul15 that a transaction must take place for something to be considered a Sale? This is plain Theft on Ebays part
Do you understand that @katzrul15 only gave you a link to the policy. They didn't write it or have any hand in creating it. They simply share some information with you that applies to the issue you feel you are having. Reading through that link would likely help you to better understand why Ebay created the rule.
It can't be "theft" when it is stated in the public information that are the Ebay rules that this will happen if you do what you did. You may not like it or agree to it, but that is not required on this site or any other. You agreed to comply with the rules when you signed up for Ebay and agreed to the User Agreement. Ebay doesn't seek nor is required to have your agreement to apply their rules.
@nh_sales_lv wrote:Do you Understand the Definition of Theft in the Dictionary ?
Definition of theft
1a: the act of stealing specifically : the felonious taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it
b: an unlawful taking (as by embezzlement or burglary) of property
2: a stolen base in baseball
3obsolete : something stolen
If you believe that Ebay's rule is an illegal rule, then your next move would be to contact a lawyer.
FYI this is not a new rule, it has been around for awhile.
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/listings/creating-managing-listings/cancelling-listing?id=4146
@nh_sales_lv wrote:Who is Ebay to believe anything, the Item is in my Possession, the potential buyer in a Different state, No electronic communications were made in attempt to contact. Utter Nonsense !
The OWNER of the site in which you are trying to sell your items on. That is who they are. The OWNER of the site has every right to set the rules, just as every other similar site does.
Sometimes what will happen for Casual Sellers such as yourself, is when Ebay is the only site you sell on, you aren't aware of how the other sites function. While you can certainly take your stuff to a smaller site and they may have rules more to your liking, they won't likely have the traffic or sales in which you may desire. You can go to another site that is similar in size to Ebay and some of those site have even higher fees. There is a variety of sites out there, take a peek. You will find that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
@nh_sales_lv wrote:As of 11/15/2021 Ebay has refunded me the 75.30 and I'll learn to triple check my items better.
That is a good outcome. I hope you wrote to your buyer too and apologized for having to end the listing, but you had noticed some damage which would not have been fair to sell to them. They would likely understand and appreciate why you did what you did.
And now you know about the rule for the future.
@southern*sweet*tea wrote:OP thinks that Ebay's fees of 12.22% plus 30 cents are outrageous. (12.55% plus 30 cents total)
Were they outrageous when Ebay charged 10% and Paypal charged 2.9% plus 30 cents? (12.9% plus 30 cents total)
Just to add more info on what you have brought up here.
The fees in MP have NOT increased overall fees. The following numbers represent those that do not have a store and the fee rate for most common categories [not all].
Fees BEFORE going into MP
10.20% FVF + 2.9% PP fees = 13.10% plus 30 cent per transaction fee.
In MP the fees are:
10.20% FVF + 2.35% money processing fee paid to MP = 12.55% plus a 30 cent per transaction fee.
Starting August 2nd, PayPal is raising their fees, so they will be as follows:
10.20 Ebay FVF + 3.49 PP Fee = 13.69% plus .49 cent Per Transaction fee
PP is apparently offering different fees to different sellers, likely depending on size. From what I've seen it is between 2.59% and 3.49%.
