Dropshipping From Amazon

[klassic*kids]

I bought a pair of aquatic shoes to wear in an water aerobics class I just started.  The stores don't seem to carry them this time of year so I took to the web.  Found a nice pair of speedo ones in my size right here on eBay so I bought them.

They came in yesterday and imagine my surprise when it appears they had been dropshipped from Amazon.  Take a look at the sellers f/b and see lots of red negs for dropshipping from walmart with price tags still on -- people were mad that they paid more than they should have had they just gone to walmart.com themselves to order their item.

Now, I am not going to neg the seller but I am confused and wonder exactly how this works -- how does an eBay seller dropship from Amazon or Walmart?  And can there really be that much of a profit for them to make it worthwhile to do so?

[chrysylys]

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@klassic*kids wrote:

Take a look at the sellers f/b and see lots of red negs for dropshipping

Now, I am not going to neg the seller

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Why not?  The more they get, the faster they'll be out of here.

[omgitlightsup]

Lots of people do it, yes.

And sure, there's profit to be made. If you add up your cost, eBay's fees, and the time it takes you to list, and a buyer pays more than that, you make a profit. Especially if you never have to touch the product and the money goes straight into your bank account.

It's against Amazon's terms to use eBay as a sales venue and Amazon as a warehouse. Probably Walmart too. But people do it anyway. And at the end of the day, Amazon, eBay, and the seller make money, so as you can imagine it's not on the list of top ten problems Amazon and eBay are trying to eliminate.

The time to be indignant that you spent too much has come and gone after the goods are in your hand. If you're trying to save money, eBay is probably one of the last places you should be looking, because eBay is very heavy in fees, and eBay's sellers do not possess the massive logistical assets and worldwide presence that Amazon and Walmart enjoy.

Amazon does take complaints about its sellers dropshipping from other accounts, but unless you want to commit your life to a crusade of removing sellers who abuse this loophole you're probably better off putting your effort into finding new bargains and living your own life.

[klassic*kids]

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@chrysylys wrote:

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@klassic*kids wrote:

Take a look at the sellers f/b and see lots of red negs for dropshipping

Now, I am not going to neg the seller

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Why not?  The more they get, the faster they'll be out of here.

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Do you think it is worthy of a neg?  I don't know how much profit they made but I should have gone to amazon myself, as it appears they were less there.  I think what this seller is doing is cheesey and chep, but the item did meet my expectations and matched description and shipped quickly -- Should I neg them anway?  It does semm like eBay sellers like this really cheapen eBay.

[thenobletuckylife]

Morning,

Traditional sellers like us, who never listed anything we did not have on hand, have been leaving ebay (or indirectly forced out) in significant numbers in the past few years.

We were heavily vested in this venue here with little support from ebay. If selling here with goods on hand was very difficult then why stock the inventory...so many folks found drop shipping was the answer.

The reason I believe for the increase here at ebay for drop shipping is that the Walmart and the Amazon themselves have upped their own game against each other and drop shippers have found a new way to use this to their advantage.

Before long it looks like many of the new goods sold here will simply come from China directly or just be an extension of the other mega boys looking to dominate the ecommerce world by drop shipping from them.

Mr C

[klassic*kids]

Mr C -- if you were me would you neg this seller?  They do have a lot of negs from angry buyers after they learned their item was dropshipped.  What do you think?

[chrysylys]

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@klassic*kids wrote:

Do you think it is worthy of a neg? 

-- Should I neg them anway?  It does semm like eBay sellers like this really cheapen eBay.

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Yes.  You ordered from here, not from there.

Some people have very specific reasons for NOT ordering from some places.  They get annoyed when they find out the item comes from that place after they ordered from another.

And if your seller has all that red showing and is continuing with the practice, that shows they don't care about their customers or their opinions.

[d-k_treasures]

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@omgitlightsup wrote:

Lots of people do it, yes.

And sure, there's profit to be made. If you add up your cost, eBay's fees, and the time it takes you to list, and a buyer pays more than that, you make a profit. Especially if you never have to touch the product and the money goes straight into your bank account.

It's against Amazon's terms to use eBay as a sales venue and Amazon as a warehouse. Probably Walmart too. But people do it anyway. And at the end of the day, Amazon, eBay, and the seller make money, so as you can imagine it's not on the list of top ten problems Amazon and eBay are trying to eliminate.

The time to be indignant that you spent too much has come and gone after the goods are in your hand. If you're trying to save money, eBay is probably one of the last places you should be looking, because eBay is very heavy in fees, and eBay's sellers do not possess the massive logistical assets and worldwide presence that Amazon and Walmart enjoy.

Amazon does take complaints about its sellers dropshipping from other accounts, but unless you want to commit your life to a crusade of removing sellers who abuse this loophole you're probably better off putting your effort into finding new bargains and living your own life.

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Not if a seller is using Amazons FBA warehouse services.

[pingpong517]

ok maybe this is simple to me...

if you received your item at the price YOU wanted to pay..then who cares and you are happy.

if anyone wants to shop around and find the cheapest price, then they should have done it.....

Amazon is the only one who has a gripe...I believe they don't want/allow this to happen...but when they decide enough is enough--then it will be settled....

BUT honestly....you bought at YOUR price....so i say hats off to these sellers-- using a loop hole to make a buck...and when Amazon stops it..then i'll give Amazon the hats off.....

[thenobletuckylife]

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@klassic*kids wrote:

Mr C -- if you were me would you neg this seller?  They do have a lot of negs from angry buyers after they learned their item was dropshipped.  What do you think?

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Morning Klassic,

Well the first thing I would do is realize that pricing has nothing to do with my feedback.

I have no problem with drop shipping and finding out later on I could have saved a few bucks...that is never my issue.

My issue would be if they tried to purposefully conceal the fact that they were drop shippers...and most of all...if I received a package from Amazon and found a "GIFT" note in it I would reach out to the seller for an explanation.

If the seller comes back with a smoke and mirror comment...and or had attitude then my finger would most definitely hover over the big red donut button.

Mr C

[omgitlightsup]

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@d-k_treasures wrote:

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Not if a seller is using Amazons FBA warehouse services.

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and it's the same merchant in the selling venue. But most of the time the seller is not a FBA client doing business under the same name on eBay, it's a regular old person with a Prime membership and no business license.

But when you pay taxes, accept returns, and pay Amazon's FBA fees, it's a lot harder to turn a profit on eBay.

[flyerfandan999]

A couple of weeks ago I needed o-rings for my kitchen faucet and the neighborhood source did not stock them.

So I searched on Google and saw them for the best price on eBay.  The 800 Lb Online Gorilla named after a river had them for a cheaper item price, but I don't order enough from them to justify being a prime member, so with shipping the total price was more on said Online Gorilla Site than on eBay.  So an eBay seller got my business.

The genuine Delta o-rings arrive in what seems to be record time (ordered late on a Friday, arrived in Monday morning's mail) and are SURPISE in an 800 lb Online Gorilla shipping package!  Open the package and inside is a gift receipt from my eBay Seller.

Apparently Seller uses that 800 lb Online Gorilla as a drop shipper.  Seller must be a prime member and probably also has a good understanding of said Gorilla's "Add-On Item" program where they can add items to your order with free shipping if they are coming out of the same warehouse or something.  The Seller found a way to make a profit in the spread between the Gorilla's price to him and the lowest competing price on eBay.  Looking at the numbers, it could not have been more than about 50¢ after taking out eBay fees.

There is NO WAY I would give this Seller a Red Donut for dropshipping.  They had my item, genuine Delta Faucet product, for the best price, and they got it to me so fast it made my head spin.   If I could have given them 10 stars I would have!

[fern*wood]

I don't dropship, but it seems to be a viable form of sourcing for many sellers.  It would trouble me if a sourcing method alone would turn into a reason to punish a seller, even though they delivered the purchased item as promised in a timely manner.

Where does this stop?  Possibly my sourcing method could be viewed as offensive too.   I can understand a few of the arguments against dropshipping, but for anyone to complain that it angers them because they could have gotten it cheaper themselves is ridiculous.   If a seller can't do the work to source an item and sell for a profit, there is no need to sell at all.  Amazon makes a profit too since they must also get their product somewhere--again, I say, where does it stop?

[luckythewinner]

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@klassic*kids wrote:
people were mad that they paid more than they should have had they just gone to walmart.com themselves to order their item
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And can there really be that much of a profit for them to make it worthwhile to do so?

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"people were mad" - Virtually ever retailer on earth sell an item for more than they pay for it - that's how they make a profit. IMHO these buyers should be mad at themselves for being too lazy to comparison shop. 

"that much of a profit" - Why ask us? You are the only one who knows exactly how much you overpaid. 

[klassic*kids]

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@luckythewinner wrote:

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@klassic*kids wrote:
people were mad that they paid more than they should have had they just gone to walmart.com themselves to order their item
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And can there really be that much of a profit for them to make it worthwhile to do so?

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"people were mad" - Virtually ever retailer on earth sell an item for more than they pay for it - that's how they make a profit. IMHO these buyers should be mad at themselves for being too lazy to comparison shop. 

"that much of a profit" - Why ask us? You are the only one who knows exactly how much you overpaid. 

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That's just it.  I don't know how much the seller paid.  It had a $34 price tag on them but that appears to be the original retail price.  There is nothing that shows how much amazon had them listed at.  I paid $24 which was a fair price in my opinion, though it seems I should have checked amazon first before purchasing here.  I am happy with my purchase and had no intention negging.