06-24-2018 05:37 PM
So I sold a bunch of camera lenses mentioning they came from a deceased estate (which they did).
A buyer with a long history of buying and reselling lenses, bought it and immediately complained of a missing part (an accessory I said wasn't included in the listing) trying to get half his money back and keeping the item, counting on me not knowing enough to know he was misleading me, I pointed that out and he changed his story.
He then claimed the auto focus was broken on the manual focus lens, pretending he was new to camera lenses and didn't know it was not auto focus based on my description. He lodged a return request saying this. I proved the listing was clear and not my fault he didn't know, he kept arguing until it was clear he was in the wrong and has changed his story again as to what is wrong, pointing out he runs a business selling lenses and knows about this lens (complete change of story).
I fear he may return a different item (was using me to swap over his faulty one) or something else dodgy is going on as ther was so much dishonesty already. I have blocked him from buying on my auctions again but am concerned what ebay will do when I don't accept the return?
I did contact the escalation team 3 times, lol. Twice I was told they will ALWAYS side with the buyer, it doesn't matter if he is lying, and once the guy knew about lenses and said he is clearly lying and not to worry about it.
Has anyone been through the escalation proceedure when refusing a return, do they even do due dilagence or just find in the buyers favour. I am getting a bit sick of how buyer centric ebay has become, it seems to be the perfect place to scam sellers.
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06-24-2018 06:27 PM
These are the US boards. You look to be a AUS seller selling to AUS buyers? Doesn't Australia have boards? I don't think all the policies are the same.
06-24-2018 05:41 PM
I am not experienced with returns since I have never had one. But I do know that it is never a good idea for a seller to escalate a case. I hope everything works out well for you.
06-24-2018 05:42 PM
If you don't accept the return and pay for the label for it to be returned to you, then ebay will take the money out of your account and give it back to the buyer AND let them keep the lenses for free, AND give you a big fat super duper no seller resolution defect.
If you do accept the return and pay for the label, then ebay will also take the money out of your account and give it back to the buyer the second the label says the item is delivered back to you. You will get something back, who knows what at this point, and you will avoid the super duper defect.
Lovely, huh?
06-24-2018 05:51 PM
@jeisner23 wrote:Has anyone been through the escalation proceedure when refusing a return, do they even do due dilagence or just find in the buyers favour. I am getting a bit sick of how buyer centric ebay has become, it seems to be the perfect place to scam sellers.
I've never refused a return on an INAD case.
If he has filed an INAD and you don't approve the return and pay for return shipping, buyer can ask Ebay to step in and help.
If they ask Ebay to help, there's a good chance they will refund the buyer from your Pay Pal account and let him keep the item.
06-24-2018 05:56 PM
To answer your question, “will ebay always take buyers side?”
Yes.
Contrary to what eBay says, there is no such thing as a Seller Guarantee.
06-24-2018 06:07 PM
06-24-2018 06:09 PM
06-24-2018 06:27 PM
These are the US boards. You look to be a AUS seller selling to AUS buyers? Doesn't Australia have boards? I don't think all the policies are the same.
06-24-2018 06:30 PM
my mistake, will have a look
06-24-2018 06:38 PM
Easy one to make, we have this happen all the time. I just want to make sure you get answers that are correct for your market.
06-24-2018 06:48 PM - edited 06-24-2018 06:49 PM
@jeisner23 wrote:
That is not what the last escalation guy from ebay told me, they said I should not send it back and it will be investigated and I would be contacted to explain my side of the story.
That employee should be fired since none of that ever happens. The seller never gets asked his side of the story for an investigation. Edited to add—you are in australia so maybe sellers there are treated fairly. Here on .com the buyer is always right.
06-24-2018 07:51 PM
Yeah I called again and was assured they would not simply refund without return even if found against me, got the name of the person and time/date of the call, so will be interesting.
Found the aussie board, so thanks for the feedback all, will try over there and hopefully get less scared.
06-24-2018 07:54 PM
@jeisner23 wrote:Found the aussie board, so thanks for the feedback all, will try over there and hopefully get less scared.
Hopefully they treat sellers better there then they do here in the US.
06-26-2018 06:42 PM
Well just to fill in the result.
They found in my favour, and blocked him from leaving me feedback. 10 minutes later he filed a paypal dispute and the whole process has to start all over again.. LOL, well at least he can't neg feedback me.
06-26-2018 07:16 PM
Keep it up!! Good job