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A buyer had open an appeal on a return that she made overseas, the bag arrived damaged and I tried to settle with her but she refused.
 
I find it ridiculous that the decision was made to her favor when I had uploaded the pics showing the damage to the bag and also upload a pic of the way she shipped it in a thin plastic envelope, it took 28 days for me to receive it so imagine how many shipments ended up on top of this package, it is beyond me to receive a damage bag the appeal department refund her the full amount with no explanation as to why they went in her favor, it is my believe that they didnt ck that this bag was damage nor did they look at the pics. I had spoken to 2 of your employees in the escalating dept and both agreed that this case should had gone in my favor, I can't afford to loose 250.00 and at the same token is not fair for the buyer to get all that money when she is at fault.
Does anyone know who I can contact higher up via email to complain on how unfair this appeal was handled?
 
 
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@myangel2007 

 

I posted this earlier Up Thread ^^^^^

 

(15) eBay for Business | Facebook

 

Go message e-Bay on this link on their E-bay for Business Facebook page.  Tell them what you have outlined here.  They should have protected you as a TRS and allowed the 50% reduction and made up the difference to the Buyer.  You are still going to be out 50%, but you also have the bag.  

 

Good luck!


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I couldn't because eBay had closed the return because the buyer never uploaded the tracking so by the time I got the bag back the return was closed and I could only give her the refund manually maybe through pay pal but she didnt want to give me the info, she wanted the full refund. 

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Just follow the link in my Post 16 - 

 

Write it out in bullet points for them - This happened on this date, this is when the return was closed.  I spoke to CS this date and the appeal was opened as the return timed out, etc.  

 

Remind them you are TRS, etc.


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@myangel2007 

 

If that is the case then my recommendation is to use the Facebook for Business link that Katz gave you.

Leave a message don't post on the page.

 

It may seem odd to use Facebook as the contact vessel but the CS reps there are good and they have some authority to take action.

They may not be available to reply tonight but leave the message and hopefully they will reach out in the morning tomorrow.

 

Good Luck

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If I go to eBay for Business in Facebook can I create a post with what happened? 

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@pikabo-icu wrote:

@myangel2007 

 

If that is the case then my recommendation is to use the Facebook for Business link that Katz gave you.

Leave a message don't post on the page.

 

It may seem odd to use Facebook as the contact vessel but the CS reps there are good and they have some authority to take action.

They may not be available to reply tonight but leave the message and hopefully they will reach out in the morning tomorrow.

 

Good Luck


 

I don't expect you to have the answer, but why is this? The person you speak to via Facebook (and maybe Twitter) must be some level of support personnel. Why not have that person you talk to via chat or phone at eBay instead?

 

Instead it seems like to me it becomes a case of talk to this guy outside of eBay because even we (eBay) doesn't have confidence in our support people.

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I would not - I would hit the "message" button and message them that way vs a post that everyone can read.  Good luck to you.  Others have posted recently about their success with doing this when e-Bay CS has indicated the matter is closed as you describe.

 

 


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@lepke1979 wrote:

@pikabo-icu wrote:

@myangel2007 

 

If that is the case then my recommendation is to use the Facebook for Business link that Katz gave you.

Leave a message don't post on the page.

 

It may seem odd to use Facebook as the contact vessel but the CS reps there are good and they have some authority to take action.

They may not be available to reply tonight but leave the message and hopefully they will reach out in the morning tomorrow.

 

Good Luck


 

I don't expect you to have the answer, but why is this? The person you speak to via Facebook (and maybe Twitter) must be some level of support personnel. Why not have that person you talk to via chat or phone at eBay instead?

 

Instead it seems like to me it becomes a case of talk to this guy outside of eBay because even we (eBay) doesn't have confidence in our support people.


But the people on Facebook for Business ARE support people..

 

I'm not sure if it was common prior to covid or not but it seems pretty standard now to reach CS reps there..

They are eBay employee customer service just online vs the phone.

Probably because so many people use online support now and they can read & reply as they have time without people waiting on hold. Also you can submit your evidence with your message so it makes it a little less time consuming perhaps? 

 

All of that is speculation.. 

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“…I spoke to 2 people in the escalating dept since there is no way to get anyone in the appeal dept, they agreed with me that this case should had gone in my favor,..”

Angel, i hate to say it, but customer service has been known to tell a caller what they want to hear, just to get them off the phone quicker.  Sometimes they give incorrect advice, sometimes damaging advice.

Foremost, eBay watches out for the buyer’s interests. Sellers are on their own for the most part. In a he said-she said situation, eBay will find for the buyer. Photos prove nothing in this leg of the race. They may not have been viewed at all, as you suspected.


One way to mitigate one’s risk in selling here is to be armed with as much info as possible. Not knowing policy can cost a seller more time, aggravation and dollars. You could have refunded at 50% as a TRS and there was nothing the buyer could have done. Any negative feedback would have been removed as well. But sometimes it is necessary to quote policy to customer service as they don’t know it themselves in many cases.

 

Here is the policy info and how-to grant a partial refund for an item not returned in original condition. You’ll need to scroll down the accompanying page to find it.

 

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/managing-returns-refunds/handle-return-request-seller?id=4115


Below is a link on how to appeal eBay’s ruling in this case. Put together what evidence you have, and don’t let eBay open the appeal since you need to prepare your side of the story. You have 30 days to file. Follow the instructions carefully. This is where a live person reviews your photos and documentation. Good luck and hope this gets resolved in your favor.

 

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/managing-returns-refunds/appeal-ebays-decision-return-missing-item...

 

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@myangel2007 wrote:

If I go to eBay for Business in Facebook can I create a post with what happened? 


@myangel2007   Don't post it on the public wall - use the messaging instead.  Be as clear as possible and, as suggested above, organise it in bullet points because the situation is a little confusing by this time.  Hopefully they'll fix this.


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EBAY always rules in favor of the buyer.    They don't care if she returned a "box of rocks" (you are forced to give refund).

 

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