eBay

sell-more · ‎03-30-2021

I am finding more & more sales where overseas buyers are using friends or relatives address & I am getting poked for international fees. I rather lose the sale than get charged yet another fee. EBAY needs to point blank put the load on the buyer for the international transaction fee.. Otherwise every sale will be axed and my response to the buyer will be >> Sorry I am canceling the sale because I feel I should not get charged a INTERNATIONAL fee due to you being a foreign buyer using a USA based address.. Until eBay starts charging buyers that fee I will continue to cancel orders that pose an international fee to me which I didn't ask for..

luckythewinner · ‎03-30-2021

@sell-more wrote:
never got them with paypal.

If you had, would you have canceled them?

luckythewinner · ‎03-30-2021

@go-bad-chicken wrote:
16.2% IS A FAR CRY FROM 4.4%!

So when I see sellers like yourself trot out this red herring I have to wonder.......

International book sales under Managed Payments

14.55% to eBay, plus 1.65% to eBay = 16.2%

International book sales under PayPal:

12% to eBay, plus 4.4% to PayPal = 16.4%.

Speaking of red herrings, I think you forgot about the 12% fee to eBay in your comparison 🙂

go-bad-chicken · ‎03-30-2021

@luckythewinner wrote:
@go-bad-chicken wrote:
16.2% IS A FAR CRY FROM 4.4%!

So when I see sellers like yourself trot out this red herring I have to wonder.......
International book sales under Managed Payments
14.55% to eBay, plus 1.65% to eBay = 16.2%

International book sales under PayPal:
12% to eBay, plus 4.4% to PayPal = 16.4%.

Speaking of red herrings, I think you forgot about the 12% fee to eBay in your comparison 🙂

@luckythewinner

I most certainly did not forget about the 12% or the new 12.2% starting on Thursday.

But once again to readdress your original post

"Is this a recent decision, or did you also do that when you were faced with PayPal's international fees?"

PayPal charged 4.4% for the international sale on the total cost of the sale to include sales tax based on the location of the buyer's freight forwarder. And then the book seller paid eBay 12% on the sale price + shipping charge in FVFs. (12.2% starting Thursday)

eBay charges 16% (14.35% + 1.65%) on the total sale to include sales tax based on the location of the buyer's freight forwarder. (16.2% (14.55% + 1.65%) starting Thursday)

This past month I had 2 transactions from different foreign buyers that were shipped to the same freight forwarder located in Springfield Gardens, New York,

One transaction was for $1,099.39 ($1,010 sale price & shipping + $89.39 NY Sales Tax)

MP FVF @ 16% (14.35% + 1.65%) = $176.20

Old Method (PayPal 4.4% % ($48.67) + eBay FVF 12% ($121.20)) = $169.87

MP "International Transactions" cost book sellers

$6.33 MORE FOR THIS SPECIFIC INTERNATIONAL TRANSACTION

The other transaction was for $334.25 ($307 sale price & shipping + $27.25 NY Sales Tax)

MP FVF @ 16% (14.35% + 1.65%) = $53.78

Old Method (PayPal 4.4% % ($15.01) + eBay FVF 12% ($36.84)) = $51.85

MP "International Transactions" cost book sellers

$1.93 MORE FOR THIS SPECIFIC INTERNATIONAL TRANSACTION

......and that is why when sellers like yourself trot out the red herrings like you did and do "Is this a recent decision, or did you also do that when you were faced with PayPal's international fees?", as if there is no difference between the two, I do have to wonder.

luckythewinner · ‎03-31-2021

@go-bad-chicken wrote:
{ a lot of math equations }

Your elaborate math is showing that there is a difference in fees between PayPal and Managed payments, which I have never disputed.

But the OP was talking about one specific and narrow subject - avoiding sales that involved MP's additional fee for international payments.

I simply asked the OP whether he was also concerned in the past about PayPal's additional fee for international payments, because PayPal's international fee is 1.5% (4.4% - 2.9% = 1.5%) which is still a substantial amount even though it is not as high as the 1.65% that Managed Payment's charges.

In your example of $334.25, the additional international fee under PayPal was $5.01 and the additional international fee under MP is now $5.51.

So I was simply asking if the OP was concered about paying $5.01 extra under PayPal, because he seems concerned about paying $5.51 extra under MP.

You are one introducing red herrings, because you tried to bring up other differences in fees and somehow twist my words to imply that I was claiming that PayPal fees and MP fees were the same.

I never suggested any such thing. I was just simply curious whether the OP had the same concern about PayPal's international fee as he does about MP's international fee.

she-sells · ‎04-03-2021

I did, & I will continue. doesn't matter whether it was the old way or the new mangled payments. I am just seeing it more & more each day than years ago.

she-sells · ‎04-03-2021

Yeah it is fun to SELL-MORE but that sure wont happen anymore like in the old ebay days. You should change it to SELL-LESS

she-sells · ‎04-03-2021

I don't think he was asking for helpful solutions so I don't know where you dreamed that up.. I would want eBay to forewarn us or block these folks period or give us sellers the right of refusal option.. Ebay can build it but they won't

pburn · ‎04-03-2021

@she-sells wrote:
I did, & I will continue. doesn't matter whether it was the old way or the new mangled payments. I am just seeing it more & more each day than years ago.

Probably best to stick with one member id when posting in the same thread.

sell-more · ‎04-03-2021

no my wife likes to mix it up from the other room. she feels the same way. good detective work kudos. 2 stars

bettimoor-0 · ‎04-03-2021

Is the seller still responsible for the condition of the package until it reaches its overseas destination, if so a INR or INAD is certainly another nightmare to have to contend with.

I am shipping a item out Monday to Japan bought via 3rd party in California. This makes me very nervous and if I wanted to do global shipping I would choose it as a option and there are many reasons that I don't. I feel that this should be a sellers choice but obviously Big Brother would rather tell us how many requirements we are missing on a list of 100 or more for one item than to take care of what we feel is in our own best interest as a seller.

katzrul15 · ‎04-03-2021

Probably best to stick with one member id when posting in the same thread.

Sorry you only 2 stars for this - Best chuckle in a long time on here!!

....... "The Ranger isn't gonna like it Yogi"......... Boo-Boo knew what he was talking about!

Posting ID Only.......
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sell-more · ‎02-03-2023

Hey if you liked being bowled over and not standing up for yourself go right ahead. I just cancelled another one & will keep doing it till I make my point.

sell-more · ‎02-03-2023

Yeah unfortunate i had that name YEARS ago because today I would have made it SELL-MORE-IN-USA

sell-more · ‎02-03-2023

Dude I don't mind the fees to sell locally to USA. What I dont like are the hidden EXTRA fees because the buyer is not from USA. I have turned off buyers from other countries for a reason. I don't think I should endure an international FEE when I am not the one clicking the BUY BUTTON. I will say it again & again make the foreign buyer pay the whole international fee. Case solved!