02-10-2024 12:41 PM
Been a member for 9 years. Used to sell a fair amount back in '16 and '17. Took a 6 year break and started selling again starting this past July and have had Im guessing around $6-7 in sales from then until todays date. No issues with any of the sales and all customers satisfied, all feedback positive.
I list a DJI drone lens and gimbal with a starting bid of $2,800 - a very fair price given the last two have sold on here for over $4k. I priced it like that in hopes of a quick sale so I could pay off an emergency loan I had to take out to pay for my dog's emergency surgery.
The buyer pays and the next day I ship it out to him UPS Overnight with insurance and adult signature. He gets it late the next morning, I wait a few hours and then follow up to make sure everything is good and it arrived safely. Yes, he says. Looks good. Is happy with it. So I ask if he can please confirm he is happy and please leave me positive feedback, so eBay will the release the hold.
It's at this point he decides to inform me that he does not have a DJI drone in which to attach it to, and thus test it to confirm it works. But that he is looking to buy one soon, probably. Will not confirm satisfied or leave feedback until he has a means of testing it.
I refrain from getting nasty or disrespectful as as much this is a massive inconvenience for me and also because as absolutely stupid I think it is to buy such an expensive thing and have no means of even testing to confirm that it works, I am aware that he technically has done nothing wrong and is well within his right to conduct himself this way. As far as I know he is under no official obligation to do anything on his end. If I have to wait an entire month because he likes to buy expensive things he cannot test, then it is what it is.
Issue is that this type of thing, as uncommon as it probably is, can create serious financial headaches for some. A lot can happen in a month. What if he decides in 3 weeks he just doesn't want it? Or what if he breaks it and tells me doesn't work and wants a refund? I guarantee eBay would side with this irresponsible guy and I'd be up poop creek.
The fact that my account is 9 years old, I have many recent sales of items selling for a few hundred dollars a piece, have had zero issues with any buyers and have received all positive feedback, that the item was delivered and signed for, and that he has not disputed anything and has said that he is happy with his purchase should count for something here. It's not my fault he can't test it out. Had I known this beforehand I would have never sold it to him for this exact reason. I understand he would technically be putting himself at risk by confirming satisfied and leaving positive feedback before being able to test it, but at the same time this doesn't feel right either. Isn't there some responsibility due the buyer? Or are they helpless children, coddled and free to behave however they want with almost zero accountability.
Am I wrong? Crazy? Is he wrong? Crazy? Do I have a leg to stand in if I try to ask eBay to release the funds because the buyer has confirmed delivery and has stated he is happy with the item, but refuses to leave feedback because he cannot test the item?
The default release date is March 6th. Which seems like an eternity from now.
02-10-2024 12:44 PM
#1 rule is never sell anything here you are not willing to lose
02-10-2024 12:46 PM
Positive feedback has absolutely nothing to do with getting your funds released.
02-10-2024 12:48 PM
Buyer feedback is 100% voluntary and it has dwindled down over the years. I only get feedback on about 20% of the items I sell. Regardless of the feedback eBay will not release the funds, probably for 30 days, since you are an infrequent seller and this was a high dollar item. Following is the policy on eBay holding funds. Mind you this policy is strictly for eBay's own protection and nobody else's.
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/getting-paid/getting-paid-items-youve-sold/payments-hold?id=4816
02-10-2024 12:58 PM
I hope that your dog recovers well from his surgery and that whoever loaned you the money will be patient. eBay probably put the hold on the funds from this transaction because this item is much more expensive that what you usually sell and there's not much you can do to get the funds release faster.
@slunk_tycoon_merchandise wrote: .... A lot can happen in a month. What if he decides in 3 weeks he just doesn't want it? Or what if he breaks it and tells me doesn't work and wants a refund? ....
As mentioned in the other post, you are significantly overestimating the power of feedback. Feedback doesn't help to get your funds released, and it also doesn't block the buyer from later filing a claim for item not as described.
Do not contact the buyer again, as this can only lead to problems, not to getting your funds released. In fact, the request that you have already made might have scared the buyer into not leaving feedback due to believing that if he does, then he cannot file a claim if he discovers a problem with the item.
02-10-2024 01:20 PM
There is usually a 30 day wait for release of funds...which for you is March 6th...and it will take another 3 business days to get deposited...so there is a possibility it might be delayed until March 9th or the 11th.
Its a big sale unlike like you sold in the past...and being on eBay for a long time means nothing as well as feedback for a seller.
As far as returns, it is only for 30 days from the date of delivery of the item...so keep that date in mind when item was delivered. A buyer can request a refund anytime but doesn't mean the buyer will get that refund after 30 days when the item was delivered.
02-10-2024 02:11 PM
It doesn't matter if they leave feedback or not, the item sold for more then $1000, so they'll hold the funds for 30 days.
You do know that if they paid through Pay Pal or credit card, they have 6 months to file for a refund.
02-10-2024 02:40 PM
Maybe you mis-read the OP's message. He is not complaining about losing anything.
He is complaining because, as an infrequent seller, with a high dollar sale, he won't get his payment as soon as he would like.
He also is complaining because the buyer made a purchase without the ability to actually test the item and thus has not left FB. The OP believes, mistakenly, that the lack of FB is what's holding up his payout.
To the OP: Are you aware, or do you remember from your previous selling experience, that the buyer has 30 days after receipt to open an item not as described case (regardless of FB status) and that he has 180 days to open a case with Paypal or/and a similar timeline to do a chargeback with his credit card?
02-10-2024 02:42 PM
Possible, I will re-read
02-10-2024 02:50 PM
No I stand by my original comment
The buyer pays and the next day I ship it out to him UPS Overnight with insurance and adult signature. He gets it late the next morning, I wait a few hours and then follow up to make sure everything is good and it arrived safely. Yes, he says. Looks good. Is happy with it. So I ask if he can please confirm he is happy and please leave me positive feedback, so eBay will the release the hold.
It's at this point he decides to inform me that he does not have a DJI drone in which to attach it to, and thus test it to confirm it works. But that he is looking to buy one soon, probably. Will not confirm satisfied or leave feedback until he has a means of testing it.
Such a high dolor sale is not worth the pain and suffering it can to lead to on here.
02-11-2024 05:12 AM
And, again, that is unfortunate. But, again, the lack of FB is NOT the reason that the OP's funds are being held.
02-11-2024 06:10 AM
The OP's funds are being held, not lost.
02-11-2024 07:48 AM
You probably made your buyer nervous by pressuring for feedback, which has nothing to do with the release of your funds. It's reasonable that he wants to test it before leaving feedback in case it doesn't work and he needs to return it. His feedback is irrelevant.