07-26-2018 04:34 PM
I'm a fairly new seller here, so I've not had any experience with this kind of thing yet; any advice you guys can offer would be appreciated!
So anyway: Just last week, I sold a somewhat outdated drawing tablet. Everything went fine initially - shipment got there on time and payment went through. However, I just received a message from the buyer today, which states that they're unable to use the tablet as their laptop doesn't have an optical drive to use the install disc in, and the company no longer supports drivers for that tablet.
They also claim that the pen was missing a button, and when they opened it, the battery (and battery compartment) looked - in their words - "crispy". As such, the pen doesn't seem to work, but this could also be due to their inability to install the drivers.
The item was in good condition when I shipped it; I'm guessing the battery issue was caused by high temperatures during transport (I live in TN, and it's been like hellfire this whole summer).
Any suggestions as to what course to take? My listing did not have returns included, and had the eBay Money Back Guarantee.
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07-27-2018 11:42 AM - edited 07-27-2018 11:46 AM
@jgmacs wrote:and the company no longer supports drivers for that tablet.
Sure they do: http://us.geniusnet.com/supports/mousepen-8x6
Granted, there is no mention of Windows 10 there; it only goes as high as Windows 8, but that may not be significant, plus the claim was that the company no longer supports drivers for that tablet, which is not true. (Speaking for our own company, we make all our older releases available for download as needed, so that our customers can recover from whatever disaster might have befallen them. It's not like we need the bytes for something else. )
I also seriously doubt that one possible instance of high heat while traveling, if it occurred, would really affect the battery compartment as described if it wasn't a mess to begin with.
Finally, the CD-ROM was clearly shown in photos and listed in the description, so the buyer has no excuse for being surprised by that.
Just take it back for a refund, verify that it's in working order (which it probably is), put the buyer on your Blocked Bidder List, and try again.
07-26-2018 04:46 PM
Tell them to return it. You've got a buyer trying to hustle you out of your merchandise...
07-26-2018 04:49 PM - edited 07-26-2018 04:50 PM
@jgmacs Message the Buyer and ask that they process an official return request in eBay's resolution center and that you will pay the return shipping ... this is retail sales and the last thing you want is an issue early on in your selling efforts. Its a hard lesson to learn but that will allow you to get your final value fees credited back to your account.
As to the condition of the item ... did you actually test it yourself and see that it worked or are you saying it looked nice when you shipped it? There's a difference ...
07-26-2018 04:51 PM
Has the buyer filed a SNAD complaint?
07-26-2018 04:53 PM
Starting in Sept. returns no matter what the reason or what the outcome will be counted against a seller to get them to the 14% FVF level. If the buyer wants to open a case let them do it on their own don't prompt them into fast tracking you to the 14% FVF level...
07-26-2018 05:08 PM
@bubbleman2010 wrote:Starting in Sept. returns no matter what the reason or what the outcome will be counted against a seller to get them to the 14% FVF level. If the buyer wants to open a case let them do it on their own don't prompt them into fast tracking you to the 14% FVF level...
This is simply not true. Only SNAD returns will count against the seller https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center/seller-updates/2018-summer/selling-metrics-and-shipping.html
07-26-2018 05:11 PM
It simple is true looking at the numbers everyday....
07-26-2018 05:13 PM
OOOOOPSY!!! that should be simply not simple...
07-26-2018 05:56 PM
07-26-2018 06:51 PM
@bubbleman2010 wrote:Starting in Sept. returns no matter what the reason or what the outcome will be counted against a seller to get them to the 14% FVF level. If the buyer wants to open a case let them do it on their own don't prompt them into fast tracking you to the 14% FVF level...
This is news to me, please provide a link that outlines and details the additional 4% FVF of doom?
07-26-2018 07:45 PM
07-26-2018 08:24 PM - edited 07-26-2018 08:24 PM
@missjen831 wrote:
@bubbleman2010 wrote:Starting in Sept. returns no matter what the reason or what the outcome will be counted against a seller to get them to the 14% FVF level. If the buyer wants to open a case let them do it on their own don't prompt them into fast tracking you to the 14% FVF level...
This is simply not true. Only SNAD returns will count against the seller https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center/seller-updates/2018-summer/selling-metrics-and-shipping.html
Actually, unless I read it wrong it does "imply" that if Sellers have too many occurances of the new metrics they "may be subject to extended estimated delivery times and additional fees." Here's what that link says and I added comments in red. It is worthy of discussion.
As we announced in the 2018 Spring Seller Update, we will provide you with additional visibility into the status of your buyers' after-sale requests, which will help you identify any listings that aren't meeting buyer expectations.
Starting in July 2018, we will provide competitive insights with service metrics and peer benchmarks that will help you assess your performance. You can find the insights in a new section in Seller Hub called Service Metrics.
The metrics will show you:
These metrics can help you reduce after-sale buyer requests, (No, they can’t because too many are SUBJECTIVE and individual Sellers have nothing to do with carrier delivery, Buyer’s honesty or dishonesty on the reason for a return) which are time-consuming, costly to service, and often result in refunded sales.
Starting in September 2018, if you have very high occurrences of these poor buyer experiences, you will be notified via email and may be subject to extended estimated delivery times and additional fees. To penalize Sellers on SUBJECTIVE metrics is simply wrong, sorry but it is.
07-26-2018 08:26 PM - edited 07-26-2018 08:28 PM
It does NOT imply that all returns will be part of the metrics. And the update says SNADs. It does not mention remorse returns. I think maybe some are reading into this too much. There is no implication that all returns will count, which is what bubble stated and as I said, is not true. We can argue semantics, but only SNAD returns whether they be legit or false, will count. Normal remorse returns will not count.
07-27-2018 03:05 AM
July is fastly coming to a end nothing being shown by or announced by ebay about returns. Right now all returns no matter reason or the outcome are being counted and as it stands right now everything that a return request is opened for is being counted against a seller.... Let me know when they post the announcement about changing that....
07-27-2018 04:21 AM
@bubbleman2010 wrote:July is fastly coming to a end nothing being shown by or announced by ebay about returns. Right now all returns no matter reason or the outcome are being counted and as it stands right now everything that a return request is opened for is being counted against a seller.... Let me know when they post the announcement about changing that....
I agree Bubbleman.
I have 10 returns total
3 are buyers remorse
1 was opened by mistake and closed nearly immediatly
The remainder were SNAD though all not legit(admittently some were)
Ebay has all 10 of these factored into my return rate on my seller dashboard. Will they ALL count against me? They do now