eBay

krys888 · ‎10-26-2019

wow. I just made a $12 offer on a $13 item because the make offer was on even though it was already seemingly priced fairly right to me, but hey, the make offer was on so okay, I thought I was making a respectable offer. It was immediately declined with no counter and no message. I moved on. I suspect the seller was offended by my offer because he/she doesn’t know the make offer is even on, maybe? Anyway, I was like YIKES, okay! LOL! Ebay really should rethink that auto-offer thing. As a seller, it scares me. As a buyer, I’m getting gun shy about making offers!

krys888 · ‎10-27-2019

I put sets together. The doll in question, I wanted the dress to put with another set. The $1 savings would cover my fees on the set I wanted to put together. On lower priced items those dollars add up and end up as ebay fees, so since the seller had the make offer on, seemed logical to take advantage of that extra dollar lol. Not sure at what offer the seller would’ve accepted, but I wasn’t going to sit there adding .10 each time to find out. Again, just seemed silly to me. And as a seller, it seemed weird.

7606dennis · ‎10-27-2019

@krys888 wrote:
And where are you seeing that on my account??? I don’t even see that on my account! So there data sets about sellers that I could be looking at and don’t know about?

Go to your feedback profile and click on your feedback as a buyer page. The number of bid retractions that you have made in the past 12 months is shown there.

By the way, these are retractions that you have made and not those made by your buyers. It does not include any bid cancellations you have made or agreed to in regard to bids placed on the items that you are selling.

"It is an intelligent man that is aware of his own ignorance."

7606dennis · ‎10-27-2019

@krys888 wrote:
I put sets together. The doll in question, I wanted the dress to put with another set. The $1 savings would cover my fees on the set I wanted to put together. On lower priced items those dollars add up and end up as ebay fees, so since the seller had the make offer on, seemed logical to take advantage of that extra dollar lol. Not sure at what offer the seller would’ve accepted, but I wasn’t going to sit there adding .10 each time to find out. Again, just seemed silly to me. And as a seller, it seemed weird.

Unfortunately, once eBay adopted the practice of adding the BO option to seller's listings without the seller requesting it, they have created a situation where the buyer has no way of knowing if it was actually done by the seller or not.

Previously, for a buyer to make an offer when the BO option wasn't included was considered by eBay to be an attempt to work an off eBay deal and could result in the buyer being permanently kicked off the site. However, relatively recently they did a complete 180 degree turnaround and began adding the option to seller's listings on their own. Who knows what goes through the minds of today's eBay executives?!

"It is an intelligent man that is aware of his own ignorance."

krys888 · ‎10-27-2019

Oh that’s on the website page! Thank you! Must’ve been before I left in April because I have zero recollection of what it might have been about. I consider myself a good buyer, so I don’t know??? I bought a LOT the past two years before I left. The only thing I can think of is I don’t buy international and I did find myself bidding on some things a long time ago that weren’t US and I might have retracted those. Otherwise, I don’t know. (There’s only one international seller I buy from consistently but that’s it.)

the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth · ‎10-28-2019

Ebays mind changed on unwanted Best Offers when they found a way to automate and monetize them.

lgonzalez28 · ‎10-28-2019

On this topic,

We should be able to report buyers for bid retractions when an offer is made on a buy it now listing WITHOUT best offer option. I have had 2 buyers over the last few days, make an offer in my messages and when I agree and change the price they disappear.

This is happening even without eBay adding best offer to the listings. Is this how buyers circumvent the retracted bids from showing up on their accounts?

the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth · ‎10-28-2019

If they're only sending you a message instead of using a formal Best Offer, there is no bid to retract so it wouldn't count as a bid retraction. Now if you had make an offer on there and they sent you an offer and you accepted, that would be an Unpaid Item Dispute. I don't know why you think there's something nefarious going on, people change their minds all the time. They haven't committed yet so no harm, no foul.

You're working around the system so there's nothing specifically to do what you want to do.

7606dennis · ‎10-28-2019

@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:
If they're only sending you a message instead of using a formal Best Offer, there is no bid to retract so it wouldn't count as a bid retraction. Now if you had make an offer on there and they sent you an offer and you accepted, that would be an Unpaid Item Dispute. I don't know why you think there's something nefarious going on, people change their minds all the time. They haven't committed yet so no harm, no foul.

You're working around the system so there's nothing specifically to do what you want to do.

Dog! With all the changes they've made to the Best Offer process, I don't even know if they count offers being retracted in the retraction count. I take the count to be retractions of bids in an auction but I could be wrong.

Of course, since eBay removed the way of reporting invalid bid retractions it really makes one wonder about eBay's reasoning.

"It is an intelligent man that is aware of his own ignorance."

lgonzalez28 · ‎10-28-2019

I actually do not WANT offers unless I put best offer on the listing
It just seems to be the norm lately, I even list as "not accepting offers". Sometimes they just catch me in a good mood I guess. I was just wondering about the process of retractions showing. They are infact, making an offer.

7606dennis · ‎10-29-2019

@lgonzalez28 wrote:
I actually do not WANT offers unless I put best offer on the listing
It just seems to be the norm lately, I even list as "not accepting offers". Sometimes they just catch me in a good mood I guess. I was just wondering about the process of retractions showing. They are infact, making an offer.

Alas! Since eBay began adding the BO option to seller's listings it is hard, if not impossible, for a buyer to know if the seller actually wants to receive them or not. A statement like, "not accepting offers" in the description while the BO button appears there has to be somewhat confusing to buyers. Frankly, eBay didn't do buyers or sellers any favors when they decided to add the option without the seller requesting it.

"It is an intelligent man that is aware of his own ignorance."

lgonzalez28 · ‎10-31-2019

Yes, it would be confusing.
I was actually referring to offers when there is NO BEST OFFER option. They ignore the "not accepting offers" and the fact that it isn't a selected option.

7606dennis · ‎10-31-2019

@lgonzalez28 wrote:
Yes, it would be confusing.
I was actually referring to offers when there is NO BEST OFFER option. They ignore the "not accepting offers" and the fact that it isn't a selected option.

In that case I would simply block them and decline their offer.

"It is an intelligent man that is aware of his own ignorance."

7606dennis · ‎10-31-2019

@lgonzalez28 wrote:
Yes, it would be confusing.
I was actually referring to offers when there is NO BEST OFFER option. They ignore the "not accepting offers" and the fact that it isn't a selected option.

In that case I would block them and decline their offer.

"It is an intelligent man that is aware of his own ignorance."

7606dennis · ‎10-31-2019

@7606dennis wrote:
@lgonzalez28 wrote:
Yes, it would be confusing.
I was actually referring to offers when there is NO BEST OFFER option. They ignore the "not accepting offers" and the fact that it isn't a selected option.
In that case I would block them and decline their offer.

Opps! I appear to have double clutched.