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bigchief2472000 · ‎04-27-2019

Does anyone know if there is a compiled list of all the firearms that would be considered an "assault weapon"? I was trying to brush up on the rules, but so far the only thing I've come across is a 96 page pdf of legalese gibberish from the California state law, that I'm really not interested in reading. There are some guns listed on pages 7-9 in the table of contents for that pdf, but I'm not sure if that's all the guns that are considered "assault weapons" by ebay.

animatyr1014 · ‎04-29-2019

To be sure, I was incredibly insensitive regarding the children/monster comment, I regret that characterization and I deeply apologize to those I hurt or offended. And certainly to those who've lost beloved because of misguided zealots, mentally disturbed "combatants", and demonic manifestation seeking to destroy for destructions sake.

Please forgive me. It was however the person, not the firearm, that took their lives. It could have been a car or a knife or a bomb, or a fire. The method is not the problem, the person who conceives to kill is.

That said, if I may, we all have a God given, divine right, (or animalistic right if you so choose) well outside ANY government's (perceived) authority, to defend our homes and our loved ones from any threat, by any means we deem necessary. I can assure you, there are those like myself, who, had they been there, would have done all in our power to save the lives of your beloved and to stop the threat, by ending the assault with only the assailant paying for their horrible intent.

Again, I do apologize, I am very sorry for your loss and your unimaginable pain.

We have to plan our own defense. If you hadn't noticed, there's nothing they can do to stem the tide. Evil is bigger than government, vastly so. If you think gov't. isn't evil too, think again. They're there to gain control over you. More laws will only serve to mitigate your freedom and enslave your progeny. This is NOT just a job for cops. That thinking got us here to begin with. I absolutely AM my brothers keeper.

"There's never a cop around when you need one, and if so, why shouldn't I be allowed to defend my own life?"

the lives of our children....

animatyr1014 · ‎04-29-2019

Well then,... 'popularized' as opposed to coined if you prefer. I could quote expert testimony in my bibliography as well. Since Chris Cox, Wayne LaPierre and multiple other contributors have all written articles for American Rifleman, the NRA, and the NRA/ILA, et al., attributing Hillary and the Clinton Admin. for the misuse of the term, at least. I will however concede the point. Writing it in a book as an author hardly makes it a fact. Especially a book that takes "contributions"and paid advertisements to promote certain products, points of view and attitudes. Gun Digest and Gun Digest Buyers Guide are known to be "pay for play" syndicated rags. And it what world did ANY American gun enthusiast not know what an assault , or combat weapon looks like? Perform like, sound like? The most savvy gun owners on earth wouldn't need any such reference. I don't recognize your source as an expert, merely a writer with an opinion. No offense meant. Does he quote his sources for such a conclusion? spin, spin, spin,... Grammatically speaking however, the point remains, it is a logical fallacy to use it as a term to specify a "type" of weapon. Assault is a general term(verb), and weapon is also a non specific(noun) general reference to a category and not a select item. Any weapon can be characterized as an assault weapon, once it's been used to assault.

gsf_tech · ‎04-29-2019

@escuintla wrote:
I abhor anything related to guns, period!

Get rid of guns. We'll live in peace by then.

That's the problem these days. Thankfully the world doesn't work per the desires of the people who think "The world would be a much better place if only I was the Dictactor". Unintended consequences be damned. I've lived in places where guns are illegal and you'll never so much as see one in private hands in your life. It isn't of much consulation when someone gets told their child was stabbed as opposed to shot. Fine, lets outlaw knives, too. Then what? Is it justified to preemtively "get rid of" violent people with the justification of "we'll live in peace by then"? And what happens when not even that suffices? In general I'm deeply sceptical of anyone who compares reality with a theoretical utopia. More often than not the road towards the utopia is paved with bodies, and the destination is little more than a mirage on the horizon... Until the next person comes along thinking "things would be different if only I would have been the benevolant dictator, and thus the cycle repeats.

Regarding the OP's question, anyone saying that a definitive response exists is fooling themselves. I've had plenty of gunsmithing tool listings be removed over "assualt weapon" compatibility. Tools, which can hardly be claimed as having anything to do with function. The same goes for picatinny mounted optics which are functionally universal and not designed to go on any item in particular.

As far as I'm concerned, it's as capricious as it gets. Word your listing carefully enough, and it might pass. Or it might be taken down within hours, or months. Some sellers seem to get more leeway, other don't. Basically post it as long as its universal and you can cope with the negative mark on your account when it's taken down. And as a general rule, if you don't have experience posting them, expect 75% of your rifle related listings to be taken down.

@batboy.inc wrote:
Just a quick look for ar-15 magazines pulled up 1339 hits, including high capacity magazines (illegal in California and a few other states), speed loaders, magazine couplers (connect two 30 round mags into convenient 60 round bundle).

Here's the California definition of "assault weapon" (effective 2018):
California now defines an “assault weapon” as any semi-automatic, centerfire rifle or semi-automatic pistol that lacks a fixed magazine and has one of a number of features that include a protruding pistol grip or a folding or telescoping stock.

Prove it. Link to just one high capacity magazine listing for ARs that has been up for more than an hour or two. Searching for that you're just going to get stickers, pouchers and other unrelated topics. There isn't really a thing as an AR "speed loader", and even the loose definition isn't something that is used during active use. As far as magazine couplers... should we ban duct-tape, too? You see the problem. But as far as the veracity of your statement, it is blatantly misleading regarding your initial argument.

And the military definition is "a select-fire weapon in an intermediate cartridge with interchangeable magazine"... but of course, that would disqualify 99.9% of the rifle in civilian hands, whereas California's definition would include the vast, vast majority of them. If California's goal is to outlaw "military grade" weapons, then wouldn't they follow the military's definition? But of course, never let reality get in the way of preconceived policy...