eBay

penny_match_kid · ‎03-18-2019

OK.. So Ebay is ramming good till cancelled listings down our throats. No one seems to like the change...and here is what I see happening...

The listings, apparently, are never-ending (as long as there is money to take from the seller). So just imagine what's going to happen, beginning next month, when some casual seller lists some items, they don't sell, and the listings automatically renew the next month. Sure, the seller's gonna get charged for the relist, and he ain't gonna be happy about it when he returns in 3 months to find out he's been charged.

BUT HERE IS WHERE THE FUN BEGINS. How many items are going to be floating around on ebay, appearing to be for sale, when the reality is they're just GTC items mindlessly relisted by a casual ebay seller who has completely forgotten about the listing? And the item is probably disposed of, or sold, in some other manner outside of ebay. This is totally going to happen. There are going to be buyers that 3 months after an item is listed, hit that "buy it now" button and they're going to get nothing. The seller will tell them that he forgot to cancel the item, and that he no longer has it. And they will get nothing.

This scenario will happen and it's going to **bleep** a lot of people off. And it's going to make Ebay look even more rinky dink than it already is.

Like I said, get your popcorn ready!!!

lindyslucky · ‎03-19-2019

It is incorrect to say GTC can be canceled at anytime.

If a seller has 85 listings ready to renew GTC and no "free" listings left.

Yes, the 85 can be canceled.

As long as the seller can spend 2 hours to cancel each one.

As people who have a life, scheduling 2 hours on the 29th day is not "any time".

One of the biggest perks on ebay is the ability to have a flexible schedule.

Or was This takes that away.

If we want to stick with a schedule someone assigns us, maybe we should go get a "real" job & have guaranteed income, probably more in an hour than we are making now.

southern*sweet*tea · ‎03-19-2019

@lindyslucky wrote:

Yes, the 85 can be canceled.

As long as the seller can spend 2 hours to cancel each one.

You can cancel in bulk with just a couple of clicks.

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.

We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did. - Thomas Sowell

sharingtheland · ‎03-19-2019

@mam98031 wrote:

@blueeggsandspam wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

@2coolzr2 wrote:
Is this true? you can just cancel it with no fees or penalties? I am afraid about this...

YES. GTC listings can be edited and/or ended any time you have the need to do so without penalty.

You should add "in most cases" to the end of your sentence. I've read posts on these boards from sellers who were charged FVF on cancelled listings because they received questions during the time they were listed. If eBay thinks you completed an offsite transaction, they won't hesitate to charge you.

@blueeggsandspam

My statement was correct. What you are speaking to is completely different and relates to AUCTIONS not GTC listings.

When you say AUCTIONS, do you mean all listings except GTC ones? Meaning, Auction = Fixed Price listing?

Some people - and even ebay - use the word "auction" as all-encompassing. Which confuses me because I think of "auction" as a shorter-duration listing with bids, and not FP listing.

It's fairly well established that sellers have received warnings/probation and/or have been charged fees after ending a FP listing early because the bots picked zoomed in on communication of some type in messages between prospective buyer and seller.

I would imagine that will apply to ended GTC listings now, also. It probably applied before; not sure if the bots made any distinction between listing type. A violation is a violation to those pesky things.

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fern*wood · ‎03-19-2019

@mam98031 wrote:

@blueeggsandspam wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

@2coolzr2 wrote:
Is this true? you can just cancel it with no fees or penalties? I am afraid about this...

YES. GTC listings can be edited and/or ended any time you have the need to do so without penalty.

You should add "in most cases" to the end of your sentence. I've read posts on these boards from sellers who were charged FVF on cancelled listings because they received questions during the time they were listed. If eBay thinks you completed an offsite transaction, they won't hesitate to charge you.

@blueeggsandspam

My statement was correct. What you are speaking to is completely different and relates to AUCTIONS not GTC listings.

It did happen to me, but they were pick up only. I ended two GTC listings three weeks after getting questions about pick up from a person that never purchased. I was put on probation and accused of off site sales.

blueeggsandspam · ‎03-19-2019

@mam98031 wrote:

@blueeggsandspam wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

@2coolzr2 wrote:
Is this true? you can just cancel it with no fees or penalties? I am afraid about this...

YES. GTC listings can be edited and/or ended any time you have the need to do so without penalty.

You should add "in most cases" to the end of your sentence. I've read posts on these boards from sellers who were charged FVF on cancelled listings because they received questions during the time they were listed. If eBay thinks you completed an offsite transaction, they won't hesitate to charge you.

@blueeggsandspam

My statement was correct. What you are speaking to is completely different and relates to AUCTIONS not GTC listings.

I don't have time to dig back through all of these threads, but I respectfully disagree. It has happened to sellers with questions on BIN listings. Since all BINs will now be GTC, I wouldn't put it past eBay to look for some easy fees. It's a legitimate concern.

EDIT:

And I didn't have to dig for any examples after all. While I was typing my reply, two people posted about their experiences.

thevintagesilvershop · ‎03-19-2019

I cancel multiple GTC listings every week. Never been charged by Ebay for it.

oneputt201 · ‎03-19-2019

No, it won't be a full blown cluster f#..it is designed to make sure the smaller sellers who have a few dozen up to 100 items get charged one way or the other.

Many list on the 50/100 free listings and put together their items and wait to list free. They list and run them for 30days/gtc and when they expire they hold back on relisting because of listing fees and wait for the free listing promo again a month later to get fresh eyes or hit a certain selling season. The ability to determine WHEN or IF you will list or relist is now being taken as an auto-relist WITH fees if you don't catch it, cancel the listing and relist it manually. If you're not right on top of your listing ending times it's too bad so sad, their fees are due and if you think Paypal is 'your' account - you haven't run across a fraudulent buyer lately.

Small sellers with small items will get hit the worst. With all the fees on FVF, Shipping, Paypal, most small sales run at less than 10% -20% profit on the item.

Do the math, it's a money maker for Ebay. This will require smaller sellers to have more time invested into just managing their listings.

mam98031 · ‎03-19-2019

It is incorrect to say GTC can be canceled at anytime.

No it is not. GTC can be cancelled / closed anytime the seller may choose to do so for any reason the seller may have.

If a seller has 85 listings ready to renew GTC and no "free" listings left.

Yes, the 85 can be canceled.

As long as the seller can spend 2 hours to cancel each one.

No, you can do this in bulk within the Seller Hub or My Ebay with just a few clicks. It probably wouldn't even take 60 seconds in all.

As people who have a life, scheduling 2 hours on the 29th day is not "any time".

One of the biggest perks on ebay is the ability to have a flexible schedule.

Or was This takes that away.

Then you must be happy to learn that you don't have to do this. If you need further instruction on exactly how to do this, just ask. But let us know if you are using the Seller Hub or My Ebay.

If we want to stick with a schedule someone assigns us, maybe we should go get a "real" job & have guaranteed income, probably more in an hour than we are making now.

Boy I find this really insulting. I do have a REAL JOB. I am an Ebay seller. My job puts food on the table and clothes on the kids, along with other things. Just like any other J O B that may be outside the home. I work no less hard than anyone else.

mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999

dmoney148 · ‎03-19-2019

@penny_match_kid wrote:

OK.. So Ebay is ramming good till cancelled listings down our throats. No one seems to like the change...and here is what I see happening...

The listings, apparently, are never-ending (as long as there is money to take from the seller). So just imagine what's going to happen, beginning next month, when some casual seller lists some items, they don't sell, and the listings automatically renew the next month. Sure, the seller's gonna get charged for the relist, and he ain't gonna be happy about it when he returns in 3 months to find out he's been charged.

BUT HERE IS WHERE THE FUN BEGINS. How many items are going to be floating around on ebay, appearing to be for sale, when the reality is they're just GTC items mindlessly relisted by a casual ebay seller who has completely forgotten about the listing? And the item is probably disposed of, or sold, in some other manner outside of ebay. This is totally going to happen. There are going to be buyers that 3 months after an item is listed, hit that "buy it now" button and they're going to get nothing. The seller will tell them that he forgot to cancel the item, and that he no longer has it. And they will get nothing.

This scenario will happen and it's going to **bleep** a lot of people off. And it's going to make Ebay look even more rinky dink than it already is.

Like I said, get your popcorn ready!!!

oceanviewengineer2015 · ‎03-19-2019

How many are going to be out there in the “google search” when sellers (like me) ended them on day 28 or 29?

I can not believe they are attempting this blatant revenue boosting scheme.

mam98031 · ‎03-19-2019

@sharingtheland wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

@blueeggsandspam wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

@2coolzr2 wrote:
Is this true? you can just cancel it with no fees or penalties? I am afraid about this...

YES. GTC listings can be edited and/or ended any time you have the need to do so without penalty.

You should add "in most cases" to the end of your sentence. I've read posts on these boards from sellers who were charged FVF on cancelled listings because they received questions during the time they were listed. If eBay thinks you completed an offsite transaction, they won't hesitate to charge you.

@blueeggsandspam

My statement was correct. What you are speaking to is completely different and relates to AUCTIONS not GTC listings.

When you say AUCTIONS, do you mean all listings except GTC ones? Meaning, Auction = Fixed Price listing?

Some people - and even ebay - use the word "auction" as all-encompassing. Which confuses me because I think of "auction" as a shorter-duration listing with bids, and not FP listing.

It's fairly well established that sellers have received warnings/probation and/or have been charged fees after ending a FP listing early because the bots picked zoomed in on communication of some type in messages between prospective buyer and seller.

I would imagine that will apply to ended GTC listings now, also. It probably applied before; not sure if the bots made any distinction between listing type. A violation is a violation to those pesky things.

I have not experience what you have with the word "auction" specifically with Ebay. Yes with different posters using it as a generic all encompassing word, but it isn't. So I'm unsure how to address that.

Fixed price are now GTCs. So there are only two types of listings on Ebay anymore. Auctions or GTCs.

Yes, warnings have been issues to members that appear to be trying to take a purchase off Ebay via using the Ebay email system. Sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong.

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/listings/creating-managing-listings/canceling-listing?id=4146

"I would imagine that will apply to ended GTC listings now, also. " Ebay has NOT announced this. I've been using GTCs for years and I've always been able to end them as I see fit to do so.

Clarification Please.

@Anonymous

tyler@ebay

mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999

oceanviewengineer2015 · ‎03-19-2019

—lol or 20 more wasted minutes of seller’s time on behalf of elitist Ebay wanna be executives—-

mam98031 · ‎03-19-2019

@fern*wood wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

@blueeggsandspam wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

@2coolzr2 wrote:
Is this true? you can just cancel it with no fees or penalties? I am afraid about this...

YES. GTC listings can be edited and/or ended any time you have the need to do so without penalty.

You should add "in most cases" to the end of your sentence. I've read posts on these boards from sellers who were charged FVF on cancelled listings because they received questions during the time they were listed. If eBay thinks you completed an offsite transaction, they won't hesitate to charge you.

@blueeggsandspam

My statement was correct. What you are speaking to is completely different and relates to AUCTIONS not GTC listings.

It did happen to me, but they were pick up only. I ended two GTC listings three weeks after getting questions about pick up from a person that never purchased. I was put on probation and accused of off site sales.

You are right. I stand corrected. Thank you.

mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999

buyselljack2016 · ‎03-19-2019

Small seller. No problem. Can not say I really like the idea of GTC, but no problem

Couple of hundred listings.(more that one account) It will be no problem for me to monitor this.

They will roll over for another 30 days, or be ended by me as needed.

I see it as more of a problem for bigger sellers that want to rotate stock.

buyselljack2016 · ‎03-19-2019

@penny_match_kid wrote:

An example:

Kenny has never used Ebay before. Kenny signs up for Ebay just to sell his cool ten speed bicycle. That's all he wants to do. Kenny lists the bicycle as a fixed price listing. Kenny don't sell the bike for a month. Kenny gets an offer for the bike from a neighbor and sells the bike to him. Kenny has no further use for Ebay and doesn't think he'll ever sell on Ebay again. Kenny doesn't bother to cancel the listing. Why should he? He's not even getting charged for the automatic renew, because it's just coming out of his 50 free listings allotment. So the listing continues. 3 months later, Sammy sees the bike listed on Ebay and hits "buy it now". Sammy pays Kenny. Maybe Kenny notices he's been paid. Maybe he doesn't. But in any event, Kenny doesn't have the bike anymore. Sammy is **bleep** and has to open a case. And Sammy never shops Ebay again because, well, why in the world would he if this was his experience?

No doubt this scenario didn't come up when the latte drinking, skinny jean wearing geniuses at Ebay put their heads together and came up with this terrible idea.