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Abrupt Stop in Sales...........................Why?

On my other selling account I was doing find, I was selling items regularly, which kept me motivated to list more things which promoted even more sales,   Friday came and nothing but crickets, someone had turned off my faucet, unpluged my power supply or better yet but a padlock on my store.        

 

Hey, ebay I need my sales to come back, I miss them!!!!!!!!

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@softersilk wrote:

Every conspiracy theory about eBay and servers, blackouts, throttling blah blah blah - it's just paranoia.  These theories get repeated and believed but they're not true.

 


Not theories but policy confirmed by ebay themselves.

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OP not sure what's up - I noticed it too.  I heard there was some technical issues over the weekend. 

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Over the weekend?

 

Man there are technical issues because the sun came up.

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That's what I heard not sure though. Heard on social media group so not a great source - nothing for me since 1 small Sunday. 

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Hi,

I was struggling recently with the same issues on my main account. After 15 years of success on here, I was ready to throw in the towel and go get a real job, lol. Anyway, I called CS and was lucky enough to talk to the most knowledgeable rep I've ever dealt with. He spent an hour looking at my account and gave some suggestions that have, quite honestly, save me from bankruptcy in just two weeks. First of all, and this may not apply to you, if you are using past listings as a template and selling off them with sell similar, STOP. I have listed this was ever since I started in 2002 and I didn't know it was and issue, but it is with the new system. He was able to take a listing and see the category changes for over a year back. I had no idea but I can see where the algorithm would be confused. List every item from the create listing tab. I started doing this and my sales went back to the old day's level. I am also in the process of recreating all my older listings as new, a daunting task. Another suggestion was what he called "dusting off my listings". Use bulk edit and select all listings, when they come up to be edited, select all and submit. You don't need to make any changes, just select and submit. This gives your listings a temporary bump so to speak. Hope this might help you. So sorry you're going through this. You also might want to call and try to speak with a US based CS. Call early in the morning. The guy I spoke with said his name was Charlie, not sure if you can ask for a specific rep. I would send him a nice gift if I knew how to get it to him. Anyway, good luck.

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Your post and post #8 gives the best explaination as to why there is abrupt stop in my sales.   I almost exclusively use sell similar.   I used the sold sell similar because I figured, the product sold, so it contained all the necessary things to get the item sold.  Of course, I did add to the item specifics to further customize my item for sale.    

 

You would think eBay would formally put something out to help sellers or at the very least when you call a rep you would get constant reliable infomation.   It is "this" that causes sellers to give up and go elsewhere, it is "this" that causes sellers and eBay to lose money.    

 

I really wish those who are unable to respond to the topic posted would exercise some restraint and simply not respond to the topic if you have no specific information to add.    It is out right ridicilous to read posters evaluate the store linked to this posting ID when I specifically said this topic is about an Abrupt Stop in Sales on my other account.     Response like:  being grateful for some sales, stop centering  item description text, and do not take pictures with clothes on the floor (when there are no cloth(es)) on the floor is just running interference of the real discusion needed AND to see these (off topic/do nothing) replies get Kudos, just takes your breath away.   

 

Lets make it clear: being grateful for some sales, stop centering  item description text, and the advice of not taking pictures with clothes on the floor (when there are no cloth(es)) on the floor did not cause an Abrupt Stop in Sales.

 

Thank you post #8 and this poster, I will evaluate my listings.  

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i have 3 different accounts, selling AROUND 10 TO 15 ITEMS DAILY, BEEN ON EBAY AROUND 8 YEARS, NOW, SINCE SATURDAY ZERO !!!!!

PLEASE HELP!!!, 

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**general reply**

 

Are any sellers with sudden dropoff arbitrage dropshippers? I ask because Ebay is sending some dropshippers to the basement in search.

 

https://esellercafe.com/ebay-being-accused-of-manipulating-search-results-on-some-listings/

 

https://esellercafe.com/israeli-court-sides-with-ebay-on-temporary-relief-in-arbitrage-case/

 

Ebay was actually sued in Israel, and the Israeli court sided with Ebay (at least temporarily)

 

I'm surprised there hasn't been more about this on the boards.

 

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.


We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did. - Thomas Sowell
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@gramophone-georg wrote:

@myjunqueyourtreasure wrote:
You've never sold retail in a B&M, right?

I've not only sold it retail... I was a regional level exec with a major national retailer for many years.

 

Ebb and flow in B&M retail is perfectly normal. Seasonal ebbs and flows as well. 

 

What is NOT normal is stady sales for years, and then a sudden "drop off a cliff" that becomes the new normal with no recovery. The other thing that's not normal is that one day almost all your sales are from the west end of town, the next day from the east end, the following day from the next town over.

 

Heck, these aren't even normal in etail.

 

They're pretty much eBay exclusives.


Yes, I have graphs to show that the ebb & flow follows the same "Trends" as past years. It's just about 25% lower right now than past years. 

During out visibility issues, it was 40-60% below past years. 

 

Attached image is directly from Sellers Health earlier this year. Top one is impressions.

 

They were never able to explain why that happened.

 

During that time, every single piece of advice we were given did not make even 1% difference in the impression drop. 

 

This is the time that we had technical issues appearing on our seller health sheet.

 

The day the technical issues resolved, impressions shot up to semi-normal.

 

We may still be lower than past years, but we improve ~5% each month. Since we dropped for months, its taking time the build back up to where we used to be.

 

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@onlinesportsrus wrote:

Hi Zamo,

 

We have this issue destroying our business. We are about to even lose our home. Before they started all these spring and fall updates we were doing about 250k a year in sales ( i wish that was all ours) but every since the updates we are lucky to make a few hundred in sales each week and since friday we have had about 4 sales when we used to have 20 to 30 sales a day and ebay staff will not help us and say there is nothing wrong. Is there anything we can do or any help you can give? We are really desperate. We have been on the phone with them for months and they just tell us to so this and that and nothing we do that they tell us to do has fixed it so i believe our account has these bugs because you cannot go from huge sales every day to nothing and that is happening the same on two seperate ebay business's/ Can you help? Please contact us if there is anything you can have us do. We are maybe 3 months from losing everything if we do not start getting our products seen again.


I definitely know how that feels to be in that situation!

 

So my first piece of advice, if you try to discuss with them about lost sales, it will get nowhere. You 100% have to focus on impressions. Sales comments are dismissed as "We can't choose what the buyer does". CSR's have directly told me, that their requests get rejected by the tech team for this reason. But impressions are before the buyer has any choice. If the buyer can not see your item, the buyer can not make a choice.

 

On sellers hub, you can view impressions if you hit the Performance tab. Make sure to set it to 31 days - it sometimes automatically sets to different date ranges which would make it inaccurate. Compare 31 days to prior, to last years, etc. Look for inconsistencies, and exactly where they started.

 

Next, it's very hard from sellers hub alone to actually see if you have any bug affecting your account. The only indication you could use, if you check your Sales (31 days) daily and see repeated "incorrect" errors on Active Listings. What I mean is, if your active listings were 1000 last week, 1010 this week, but you get a message "Active Listings Down 30%". This message DOES rarely appear without the bug, but it is usually a lower percentage. 30-40% or above, I have found to be linked to the bug. It's almost as if eBay can no longer properly "see" all your listings.

 

The way to get the best evidence is to call up eBay, and request if you can have someone from the Sellers Health team to give you a business read out. This sheet is where I was able to find the best evidence. 

 

One key error to look for, is if your "Active" listing count does not match all of your other listing counts. EBay was saying we had 1000 more active listings, than total listings, which is obviously impossible. Another area to watch for is the "Stagnant Listings" section. Our Sellers Health rep confirmed we had around 30ish stagnant listings (stagnant = over 90 days unsold), but the sellers health read out was saying 580 stagnant!

 

Also, just browse for -any- other technical errors on the sellers health sheet. This can give you actual confirmation if something is wrong with your account.

 

Now I will be honest, finding this did NOT resolve the problem. Even after discovering this & reporting this, we got passed around, and noone could explain it. We had probs from January-Feb 19th. Then things were good until March 23rd (day of the Spring Update), then our drop came back, and did not resolve at all until June 18th. Even then, we're 20-25% less than normal, but at least we are able to do business.

 

More importantly, we are able to compete again - that is all we ask for. It is discouraging when nothing you do has any affect on impressions.

 

Once our drop stopped, those technical issues resolved themselves. I 100% believe they are at the very least, linked with some kind of correlation to the drop. It has to be. Not only did the sellers health sheet improve, but for the next couple months, our Sales (31 days) would say active listings UP 30%, 25%, etc. The complete opposite of the bugs earlier in the year. It's like all our listings slowly became visible again.

 

But I would like to make sure your attention is focused on the best areas. Impressions, and technical issues. These things can not be argued that they are "sellers decision".

 

This is specifically to tell if you have the bug that affected our account , affecting yours as well. If this happens to not be the case, let me know (you can tell me on here or private message me), and I can help look at your listings, see if your issue might be with the new catalog, or take a look at what is happening & see if there's any ideas I have on how to resolve your situation!

 

Good luck! I hope things turn around soon! 

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Hi, GetIt. I agree with you 150%. If even 3 months ago your items were selling with no problems, then just how come all of a sudden there are problems with how you list, where you list, and what you list. I believe it has to do with this Catalogue which has not been refined and their glitches with Mobile. In addition, I do not use ebay tools to list but losts of threads on here to not do a relist, but always do a new listing and only use the Advanced listing ebay tool. But, hey if your stuff was selling with no probs before, it is also based on the screwy search. I just searched for a children's tea pot set, what did they give me? Children's tee shirts. I give up.

 

Good luck with getting the message across that posters need to keep to the Post, and not evaluate a posters items unless the poster has specifically asked for "editorial" ? help (I don't even know what to call it). And another glitch today...and here on the Boards: you cannot do @ to any poster nor can anyone leave helpfuls. Go figure.  

I ain't got the brains to make this up (Fantastic Beasts)
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My message is not aimmed toward you (or attacking you), but I just want to say that I am sick and tired of Ebay. There are a million and one different suggestions of ways of manipulating one's account to gain impressions/sales. It is getting to the point where you have to be neurotic to keep tweaking your account to make sales happen and have visibility. That is not a good foundation for a business. Since Friday is has been near a total blackout for my account and others I track (really bad the past 48 hours). There is no possible way that there is not a significant problem on Ebays end. Our listings for the most part are just not being seen. This on and off type of exposure makes it impossible to run a profitable business. I can't buy more inventory, with such an unpredictable and unstable sales platform. Either Ebay gets it together like now or the game is over. The rollercoaster ride is driving me crazy. Rant off....

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@goldrushfinds wrote:

My message is not aimmed toward you (or attacking you), but I just want to say that I am sick and tired of Ebay. There are a million and one different suggestions of ways of manipulating one's account to gain impressions/sales. It is getting to the point where you have to be neurotic to keep tweaking your account to make sales happen and have visibility. That is not a good foundation for a business. Since Friday is has been near a total blackout for my account and others I track (really bad the past 48 hours). There is no possible way that there is not a significant problem on Ebays end. Our listings for the most part are just not being seen. This on and off type of exposure makes it impossible to run a profitable business. I can't buy more inventory, with such an unpredictable and unstable sales platform. Either Ebay gets it together like now or the game is over. The rollercoaster ride is driving me crazy. Rant off....


Honestly, I have been saying this since the issues affected us right at the beginning of 2018.

 

There's not any transparency regarding what's going on. EBay CSR's can say there's absolutely no penalties on your account, but have absolutely no idea about how search placement works, and even sellers health is not aware of statistic weights changing in the algorithm.

 

With bugs, AND catalog issues that affect visibility, it should be unacceptable. Anything that affects visibility should be the #1 priority to repair/fix. Period. Because visibility issues ruin lives of the businesses that they affect.

 

Even if we had to jump through hoops to gain sales, that would at least be somewhat understandable if we knew exactly what we needed to do. What happens when you jump through every hoop they give you and it makes 0% difference? There's no transparency and you are stuck.

 

Then to find out a correlation with technical issues, is extremely discouraging. Especailly when CSR's are fighting to get those tech issues repaired, and their cases are being rejected by the tech team.

 

As a marketplace that is reliant on sellers for merchandise + shipping, you have to be a seller focused marketplace to succeed. In this year, they have distanced more & more from being seller focused.

 

It's only a matter of time until this starts showing up on stock reports & they will not be able to hide it anymore.

 

And I don't think they realize what kind of storm they are brewing up with the upcoming FVF changes on SNAD. Without being able to fight SNAD, without transparency on the "peers" measurements (that I am sure are not truly peers of a similar bulk), and with potential for abuse... this could very well be the biggest policy mistake I've seen in the last few years. 

 

Hoping that doesnt end up being true... but I don't expect it to be pretty when sellers start having to pay fees & find that they can no longer be competitive in their category, without any way to fight abuse.

 

I don't think eBay realizes, that the seller metrics on average are better for smaller sellers with few sales, and with more bulk the metrics drop a bit. The sellers getting hit hardest by the change are going to be either A) small sellers with an unlucky string of SNAD, that will be getting too few orders to escape that pit, or B) large sellers who represent a substantial bulk of sales, who will suddenly no longer be competitive in their categories.

 

This is going to hit very hard...

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100% agree. It is obvious to me, that over the last few days, exposure in my area on Ebay is almost nonexistent. In the past 48 hours, among 4 sellers accounts (myself and 3 others I follow), with a total of approx. 4,000 listings, there have been a total of 5 sales. That isn't a business. Heck, that isn't even a hobby. It is not worth the hassle, mess, disruption of home (storing things, packaging area, photo area, etc) for essentially no return. I am really thinking of just getting rid of it all. Ebay is now just a distraction from time better spent.
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100% agree. It is obvious to me, that over the last few days, exposure in my area on Ebay is almost nonexistent. In the past 48 hours, among 4 sellers accounts (myself and 3 others I follow), with a total of approx. 4,000 listings, there have been a total of 5 sales. That isn't a business. Heck, that isn't even a hobby. It is not worth the hassle, mess, disruption of home (storing things, packaging area, photo area, etc) for essentially no return. I am really thinking of just getting rid of it all. Ebay is now just a distraction from time better spent.
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