A extended bidding if bids recieved last few minutes type bidding would greatly benifit seller&buyer

[stillmanwi]

I have noticed auctions that have moved to extended bidding formats have greatly increased prices on items.  I have paid a lot more as a wholesaler however in general all auction companies are gravitating towards that style of auction.  I really think if ebay made that option ... eventually no one would use hard close options anymore.  Bid sniping is not very effective with the hard close option. Some buyers may not like it because they need to pay more. However some buyers dont like how ebay auctions just end without an opportunity to keep bidding.  ALL sellers will like soft close. Seems like a fool proof way for ebay to increase margins A LOT without soaking sellers.  If sellers cannot make profits eventually ebay will lose sellers and sales to other platforms or just stopping business all togeather. Ebays keeps thinking of ways to make sellers pay more percentage of their sales in promotions and fees to ebay for selling which I know is costing them sales and driving some of their sellers out of business. I wish ebay would make it easier on sellers by adding features that make sellers able to list more inventory exponentially faster. More listing tools and more shipping tools. They make massive revamps to how things are listed without enough research. Ebay should truly try and list some of their own products .... or a very large assortment of products like the average joe at home ebay store does and they will quickly start realizing what they need to do. Its obvious they dont really do it like most ebay sellers.  Ebay still has a classic niche in dealing with sellers who want to sell single listing type items, some on large scale. there is not too much competition they should capitalize on that before someone else does.  There are many ways ebay can increase its bottem line with its resources without soaking their actual customer which is those that sell on ebay... not as much the people that are buying.  It is the sellers they need to cater to just as much as buyers or they will lose the ultimate source of their revenue.

[eburtonlab]

eBay extended bidding opportunity for nearly 3 mins past auction end time.

What is the item number?

[lacemaker3]

@pete5454 

As you have been told multiple times, you need to start your own thread and give us the item number you are complaining about, so we can see what happened with it for ourselves.

Stop disrupting the boards by bumping old threads.

[simba6]

Back when eBay started many other on line auction companies started up.  All the big search engines too ran auctions.  Many of them offered such an option.  It did not work and today they have all gone away.

Your bidding all wrong.  Your bidding as in an outcry auction. You need to bid as in a sealed bid auction.

[a_c_green]

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@pete5454 wrote:

My computer clock is correct. Bid 8 seconds before end of auction. Two other bidders came on at the same time. or later - eBay extended bidding opportunity for nearly 3 mins past auction end time. I was offered the opportunity to bid - but refused as I had set my budget.

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@pete5454 : You were "offered the opportunity to bid" and eBay extended the bidding deadline by 3 minutes? That's not how auctions work on eBay. Please post the auction number so that we can see the Bid History.

[pete5454]

Hi

Not sure what bumping old threads mean - new to posting. Just had some viewpoint to add not so much a complaint as an observation - maybe eBays response to Bidnapper & the like ? Peter. ps - which I do not use as an auction is an auction to my way of thinking - with a few rules - rules we all should know - so when the hammer goes down its a sale - not some 'soft' extended unknown time limit that seems to prevail now - but I could be wrong as eBay the algorithms is an unknown.

[pcobra93]

Soft close auctions are the scourge of the industry.... They are a contributor to the decline and downfall of Ebay auctions.....anyone that has participated in one would have to agree. I know people that run these and I can tell you first hand that they are NOT on the up-and-up....beware of these auctions as there is a lot of games being played to run prices up.

[pete5454]

eBay item number

296408709880

Ye of little faith - Peter

[dbfolks166mt]

eBay item number

296408709880

     I cannot find this item number. How about a link?

[a_c_green]

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@dbfolks166mt wrote:

eBay item number

296408709880

     I cannot find this item number. How about a link?

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It's a UK listing, which I found on ebay.co.uk after noticing that the poster is registered there, according to his feedback page: 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296408709880?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=2fCi63KRQ8G&sss...

This link should jump directly to the Bid History page for that listing: https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/296408709880?item=296408709880

Here's a screenshot to save some time:

Okay, we can see from the bid history that the listing began at 1:39:29pm Pacific time on May 3, and thus ended exactly 7 days later at 1:39:29pm PDT on May 10.

@pete5454 : Your last bid occurred at 1:37:51pm Pacific time, about 98 seconds from the end of the auction. However, there were two more later bids, occurring at 13 seconds and 9 seconds respectively from the end of the auction, both  of which exceeded your maximum bid.

The auction was not extended; however, if your computer clock was off (running fast in this case), its countdown to the end of the auction would have been off as well, telling you that there were only a few seconds left in the auction, when in fact there was a minute and a half.

[eburtonlab]

According to the bid history page here:

https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/296408709880?item=296408709880&rt=nc

That auction started on 3 May 2024 at 1:39:29pm PDT and ended seven days later.

The last bid was place on 10 May 2024 at 1:39:20pm PDT, nine seconds before the auction ended.

[pete5454]

https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/296408709880?item=296408709880

[pete5454]

And the sale went on for about 2/ 3 mins after auction end - giving me a chance to re-bid. I had set my budget so I did not but another 2 late bids had come in & the sale was left hanging so to speak to allow us to re-bid. Regardless of what the bidding clock says. I checked timings at the time so I ma pretty sure this is what happened -& will happen if more than one bidder comes in late - Peter

[eburtonlab]

And the sale went on for about 2/ 3 mins after auction end

It may have appeared that way to you based on the countdown on your computer, but there were no bids after the end of the auction shown in that bid history.

It is most likely that your computer's clock is off by about forty seconds, and that had you tried to actually bid in the time after your countdown reached zero the first time, you would not actually have been able to submit a bid.

Check to see if your computer's clock is ahead or behind at the top of this page:

https://time.is/

If your time is off by more than a second or so, you may want to synchronize your clock to an internet time server to avoid problems bidding at the end of an auction. If you are using Windows, try right clicking on the time in your task bar, select "Adjust date/time", make sure the time zone is correct and then select "set time automatically" at the top. Then check your time using the link above once more to note the difference.

[a_c_green]

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@pete5454 wrote:

And the sale went on for about 2/ 3 mins after auction end - giving me a chance to re-bid. I had set my budget so I did not but another 2 late bids had come in & the sale was left hanging so to speak to allow us to re-bid. Regardless of what the bidding clock says. I checked timings at the time so I ma pretty sure this is what happened -& will happen if more than one bidder comes in late - Peter

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Sorry, but no, there was no extension of time at all. The listing began at 1:39:29pm Pacific time on May 3, and ended exactly 7 days later at 1:39:29pm PDT.

When the auction is close to ending, a live countdown timer appears on the listing page. This countdown is not being generated directly from eBay. Instead, code is provided that compares your own computer's time setting with the listed end time of the auction, and gives you a countdown ticker of minutes and seconds remaining (i.e. the difference between your computer's current time setting and the upcoming endpoint of the auction).

The bid history shows that your latest bid went in at 1:37:51, about 98 seconds from the end of the auction. If your computer time was exactly right, you should have seen a minute and 38 seconds remaining. However, if your computer clock was 90 seconds fast, for example, it would have shown you a countdown timer of 8 seconds to zero. You got your bid in just fine, but there was actually another 90 seconds left in the auction, which was long enough for two other bidders to get in and push the price higher.

[dbfolks166mt]

It's a UK listing, which I found on ebay.co.uk after noticing that the poster is registered there, according to his feedback page: 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296408709880?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=2fCi63KRQ8G&sss...

This link should jump directly to the Bid History page for that listing: https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/296408709880?item=296408709880

Here's a screenshot to save some time:

Okay, we can see from the bid history that the listing began at 1:39:29pm Pacific time on May 3, and thus ended exactly 7 days later at 1:39:29pm PDT on May 10.

@pete5454 : Your last bid occurred at 1:37:51pm Pacific time, about 98 seconds from the end of the auction. However, there were two more later bids, occurring at 13 seconds and 9 seconds respectively from the end of the auction, both  of which exceeded your maximum bid.

The auction was not extended; however, if your computer clock was off (running fast in this case), its countdown to the end of the auction would have been off as well, telling you that there were only a few seconds left in the auction, when in fact there was a minute and a half.

     Thank you and excellent explanation. I was suspicious that this auction ended when it was supposed to and there was no "soft close".